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If you missed it a couple weeks ago, this was pretty cool. OFPG board gaming segment on Good Morning America.

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Someone has dared to adapt one of cinema's most critically acclaimed classics into a board game :
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I've seen mention of Rangers of the Shadow Deep on here a few times. I'm hoping someone could answer a few quick questions:

~How big of a space is required? I see it says 30"x30" for the battlefield, but how much stuff needs to be set on the table outside of it?
~How long is set up, not counting time spent looking for the right bits and pieces?
~How long does a game usually take, assuming solo play?
~How many miniatures are you typically going to see on the table for each side?
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Someone has dared to adapt one of cinema's most critically acclaimed classics into a board game :
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Aww, I thought you were going to be talking about all time smash hit holiday classic JINGLE ALL THE WAY.

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When I realized you were talking about a Disney property, I was just grateful it wasn't Song of the South.
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D&D Adventure Begins looks like it could be an interesting "half step" towards getting my kids more interested in actual tabletop RPGs. We've tried a few times, but it's just never taken with them. Mostly because I'm a terrible DM, but also because they have trouble making the transition from playing within the structured rules of a board game to the more creative engagement of an RPG.

This looks to have just the right amount of serious + silly that would appeal to them, while actually getting them to begin using their imagination somewhat. Plus, everyone gets to be the DM, not just dad.

Will definitely be keeping an eye on feedback/reviews for this one when it comes out in October.

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Well, there's a first. A friend gave me a sealed copy of the Traders & Barbarians expansion for Catan. I popped it open, and it was a misprint. The printing on the tiles was misaligned by about 3/16 of an inch, which is enough to render it unplayable (some of the tiles had relevant bits that were entirely off of the piece.) I contacted Catan Studios.

They refused to help.

In the decades I've played board games, I have contacted companies a number of times over broken, improperly crafted, or missing components. Every time the answer was the same: give us your address and we'll get you a replacement. When the games were bought used off of ebay or through a second hand store I'd tell them that, and they still just asked for my address. And in every case, they earned more of my dollars later on, as I had respect for their company.

I am no longer a customer of Catan Studios. It was fun with the family now and then, but there are other games that are also fun.
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They're owned by Asmodee now and, well...Asmodee couldn't care less. That does suck regardless.

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They're owned by Asmodee now and, well...Asmodee couldn't care less. That does suck regardless.
Yeah, I did some digging and just discovered that this is Asmodee's new policy as of a few months ago. If you have a problem, contact your retailer. If you're retailer is a 150-mile round trip (mine is), or if you bought it at a con, or if it was a gift, or if you got it second hand (even new), or if your retailer tells you they can't help, then you're out your money.

Fuck that.
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Indeed, Asmodee's obnoxious update to their parts replacement program means I now go out of my way to avoid purchasing anything from them or their aquired subsidiaries.

I understand their reasoning for doing so, but the policy change strikes me as a textbook example of a juggernaut company being "pennywise, pound foolish." It's obviously designed to significantly increase the burden of effort for consumers who receive a defective product or need to obtain replacement parts. Worse still, it places an even greater burden upon smaller friendly local gaming stores. Because it's one thing for large retailers like Amazon, Target, and Walmart to remunerate customers and quite another for smaller retail stores. Friendly local gaming stores are now forced to contend with potentially disgruntled customers if they contact Asmodee to obtain replacement parts and are simply informed, "We don't have any more copies of that game." They're left with the choice of either telling that to their customer and risk incurring their wrath, or eating the cost of providing a refund for a defective product (easier said than done for a small business that already operates on very thin margins).

Not only has Asmodee become increasingly unreliable in providing games WITHOUT missing or bad parts, but chasing after them and jumping through the necessary hoops to obtain replacements is way more trouble than it's worth when there are other reputable companies without such obnoxious customer service policies in place. So eff them and the horse they rode in on.
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Unfortunately, it's easier to list what Asmodee doesn't own than what they do.
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Blackhawk wrote:
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Unfortunately, it's easier to list what Asmodee doesn't own than what they do.
Sad but true, hence the "going out of my way" part. Fortunately, there's a handy Asmodee Publisher List on BGG that helps ease the process of determining which publishers to avoid for those so inclined.
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How the molds for tabletop minis are made. It's more complicated than I would have guessed.

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No idea what this is counting down to, but could be worth keeping an eye on.

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The whole customer service debacle from Asmodee really does suck. I remember purchasing a game from FFG years ago before they were bought up by Asmodee. It was missing one minor token that might have actually been my fault after all (I suspect I forgot to punch out the token I was missing before tossing the empty frame into the trash). I sent them an email asking if I could pay to get that one lousy token. They responded almost immediately and shipped me a replacement within a week. I doubt I'll see that level of customer service again from them though. :(
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Out of curiosity, where is the best place to sell/trade board games? I have finally come to terms with the fact that Mage Knight is simply never going to hit my table again, and I'd like to try and at least get something for it. :?

Wasn't sure if there was a preferred place to sell used games, or if it was just a general Ebay sort of thing.
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Yes, though the place I typically use (Noble Knight) focuses more on bulk unloading - unless you are looking to get rid of quite a few games, it's likely not worth contacting them.

I recently discovered Board Game Co and i think they can deal with smaller (i.e. single) exchanges/trades. I don't have any working experience with them yet though, so I can't offer advice there.

I do know there are various trading/selling groups on Facebook that I'm pretty sure are connected with BGG or various sub-groups associated with BGG (1 player's guild, miniatures gamers, etc...)

Ideally you can find someone local for an exchange as when you're selling board games (like on eBay) the issue always seems to be the shipping. At some point you just need to accept taking a hit in order to free up space.

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Boardgame Co has an interesting youTube channel, so I’m predisposed to liking him.

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Yes, that's how I found out about his site - I stumbled into his Youtube channel and we apparently have experienced a very similar board gaming journey over the last ~10 years. I've watched a few of his videos now where he's saying / realizing things that I've also figured out, which is both awesome and creepy. :D

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Smoove_B wrote:
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Yes, though the place I typically use (Noble Knight) focuses more on bulk unloading - unless you are looking to get rid of quite a few games, it's likely not worth contacting them.

I recently discovered Board Game Co and i think they can deal with smaller (i.e. single) exchanges/trades. I don't have any working experience with them yet though, so I can't offer advice there.

I do know there are various trading/selling groups on Facebook that I'm pretty sure are connected with BGG or various sub-groups associated with BGG (1 player's guild, miniatures gamers, etc...)

Ideally you can find someone local for an exchange as when you're selling board games (like on eBay) the issue always seems to be the shipping. At some point you just need to accept taking a hit in order to free up space.
Thanks, I may give Board Game Co a look. I might actually have a couple of things to trade, so it might be worth it.
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I'm thinking of contacting Noble Knight to see if they want my comic book collection. My buddy Tommy offloaded a a couple of long boxes and got about $500 in credit at the store. I REALLY want to get rid of my comics.
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Micro Macro Crime City. Essentially Where's Waldo, but murder mysteries. The website includes an online sample case that's pretty fun.

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Yeah...so I think I'll just keep my games. Between BoardGameCo and Noble Knight, the best offer was an $85 store credit for all of these:

- Mage Knight Ultimate Edition
- Gloomhaven
- Sword & Sorcery Core Set
- Aquadukt
- The Ark of the Covenant
- Legendary Encounters: Firefly
- Keyforge Base Set

That's a worse trade credit offer than Gamestop! :lol:
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