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YellowKing wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 12:11 pm So my wife ran into my son's dental hygienist the other day who told her that she tested positive for Covid on Christmas Day. 3 days after cleaning my son's teeth. :grund: What really angered me is that the dentist office never notified us, so we certainly weren't quarantining.

It's almost been 2 weeks so hopefully we're in the clear, but it just goes to show that you never know where the bastard is going to try to take you out.
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:09 pm It's why this is never going to end. There's an entire population of people that is going to do everything and anything they can to undermine any effort to make things better. We're desperately trying to empty the sinking boat and they're bringing buckets of water back in. Speaking of which:


Gov. Ricketts (R-NE) says undocumented workers at meatpacking plants will not be eligible to receive the COVID vaccine.

That’s at least 14% of Nebraska’s meatpacking workers, according to @MigrationPolicy
So very concerned about jobs and the economy that we'll intentionally not vaccinate workers we previously identified as essential.
Eligible? Does that mean they won't get no-cost vaccine or they won't be allowed to get the vaccine? I can see the former, and I can see a way they can still be vaccinated but the latter seems impossible.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:54 pm Eligible? Does that mean they won't get no-cost vaccine or they won't be allowed to get the vaccine? I can see the former, and I can see a way they can still be vaccinated but the latter seems impossible.
They aren't being considered as part of the state's plan; they don't exist because they're non-citizens and so they cannot obtain a vaccination. But I guess they're also going to be told to show up to work. You'd think the employers would not be happy about this as they're going to have plants with workers in a mixed immunity status.
Meatpacking workers are slated to receive the vaccination in Phase 1B, after first responders, utility workers, and educators, among others. The state was in Phase 1A as of Monday morning, with more than 36,000 doses having been administered to frontline healthcare workers and residents and staff of long-term care facilities.
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 7:09 pm It's why this is never going to end. There's an entire population of people that is going to do everything and anything they can to undermine any effort to make things better. We're desperately trying to empty the sinking boat and they're bringing buckets of water back in. Speaking of which:


Gov. Ricketts (R-NE) says undocumented workers at meatpacking plants will not be eligible to receive the COVID vaccine.

That’s at least 14% of Nebraska’s meatpacking workers, according to @MigrationPolicy
So very concerned about jobs and the economy that we'll intentionally not vaccinate workers we previously identified as essential.
If I were a billionaire I'd pay each and every one of those workers to stay home until that policy were reversed.
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raydude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:08 pm

If I were a billionaire I'd pay each and every one of those workers to stay home until that policy were reversed.
If I remember high school history correctly, you don't get to be a billionaire (or any sort of ~aire) by treating your workers with respect and doing the right thing.
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I'd don't think he's talking about being their employer.
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raydude wrote: Tue Jan 05, 2021 8:08 pm

If I were a billionaire I'd pay each and every one of those workers to stay home until that policy were reversed.
Would probably be cheaper and more effective to buy them all a vaccine.
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If they all die or walk out then hows the job stuff working?
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Why do they always have to be the biggest assholes in every room they happen to be in?
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On the plus side, I would imagine most or all of the members that are vulnerable have probably already gotten one dose of the vaccine, so any spike will hopefully be lesser than it otherwise would have been.

But those GOP members are still assholes.
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Shame they didn't kick them out or segregate them in another smaller tight room.
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They should have ordered that everyone put their gas masks on.
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Defiant wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:04 pm On the plus side, I would imagine most or all of the members that are vulnerable have probably already gotten one dose of the vaccine, so any spike will hopefully be lesser than it otherwise would have been.

But those GOP members are still assholes.
14 days to vaccine's full efficacy. 14 days after the second administration, that is.
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All we need is a bunch of special elections going on right now because of COVID deaths.
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News says the new contagious variant is 75% more transmissible.
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The Meal wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:39 pm
Defiant wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 4:04 pm On the plus side, I would imagine most or all of the members that are vulnerable have probably already gotten one dose of the vaccine, so any spike will hopefully be lesser than it otherwise would have been.

But those GOP members are still assholes.
14 days to vaccine's full efficacy. 14 days after the second administration, that is.
Yes, but there's something like 60%(?) efficacy after the first shot, IIRC, and I think they got it about a couple of weeks ago. While not great, I don't think it's ad bad as it could have been.
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I'll defer to your expert knowledge.
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That new strain is in Chattanooga now.
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Did it come in on the choo-choo?
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What did you say Roy?
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China places 11m under lockdown after outbreak in northern city
China has placed 11 million people in the northern city of Shijiazhuang under lockdown after more than 100 new Covid cases were confirmed there.

Residents are banned from leaving the city and schools have also been closed.

More than 5,000 testing sites have been set up so every resident can be tested.

The new figures are the highest China has seen in more than five months. The country has been able to contain such outbreaks by immediately taking tough action.

This has involved consistently using mass testing when new clusters of cases appear, even if they seem relatively small.

Hebei province, where Shijiazhuang is located, reported 120 new cases on Thursday and all but one of those infections was in the city. Elsewhere in the country, 22 new cases were confirmed.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Jan 07, 2021 6:28 pm Did it come in on the choo-choo?
Now saying multiple cases of a mutated virus. They aren't saying its the same as the UK one but think it could be.
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Breaking: Small number of Covid survivors develop severe psychotic symptoms.
One former patient became so delusional he insisted he won a national election despite the overwhelming evidence he had his ass handed to him.
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My area (Greenville) made it in a federal report!
The most recent White House COVID-19 Task Force report shows the Greenville area and Spartanburg are among the hardest hit by coronavirus in the country.

The report ranks Greenville and Spartanburg with metro areas like Provo, Utah, and Tulsa, Oklahoma, among the mid-sized areas with the most cases per 100,000 people, highest percent positive rates and worst case trends over the last eight weeks.

The Greenville area includes Anderson and Mauldin for these measures.

Per the report, the Greenville area had 787 cases per 100,000 people in the seven days from Dec. 31 to Jan. 6. It is higher than any figure for the metro areas with between 250,000 and 1 million people.

Only Provo, Utah, had a higher percent positive in that time than Greenville.

Spartanburg was fifth on the list for the most cases per 100,000 people in this group of cities.

Cases per 100,000 people for cities with between 250,000 and 1 million people, according to White House COVID-19 Task Force report for Dec. 31 to Jan. 6:
Greenville: 787
Provo, Utah: 778
Evansville, Indiana: 757
Chattanooga, Tennessee: 676
Spartanburg: 674
Pensacola, Florida: 638
Ogden, Utah: 611
Tulsa, Oklahoma: 596
Knoxville, Tennessee: 586
Augusta, Georgia: 580

Percent Positive for those cities during that time:
Provo: 32.7%
Greenville: 31.3%
Tulsa: 29%
Spartanburg: 28.9%
Augusta: 25.3%
Evansville: 24.9%
Knoxville: 24.8%
Ogden: 24.3%
Chattanooga: 23.3%
Pensacola: 19.3%

The report was published Thursday.
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NEW: Speaker Pelosi implementing FINES for members who don't wear a mask on the House floor

$500 fine for first offense.

$2,500 for second office.

Fines will be deducted from Member pay (no use of campaign funds or MRA for fines).
About time. First offense is fine; second one should be more. I would also volunteer my time to make them attend a course I would create that they'd need to sit through. Pain.
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Comes too late for more and more lawmakers who were exposed by these jackasses.

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Think we can hit 400,000 by Inauguration Day? We were at 375k dead as of today, and the 7-day moving average was 3k per day, and we have 8 days left. It's going to be tight, but USA! USA!
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Hmmm..the numbers I saw suggested we were just shy of 390K today. We'll hit 400K by the weekend.
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 12, 2021 11:38 pm Hmmm..the numbers I saw suggested we were just shy of 390K today. We'll hit 400K by the weekend.
By "today" I meant this morning's newspaper, which really means yesterday. I haven't seen 390k...maybe you got next week's newspaper.
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It depends on whose numbers you believe are most reliable. The Johns Hopkins tracker currently says 380,361. The WorldOMeters tracker currently says 389,599.
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IDK where the Globe gets its national number. It does a great job at reporting state data. We're about to roll 13,000 here, btw.
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Kraken wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:26 am We're about to roll 13,000 here, btw.
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edit: On closer analysis it seems you are way ahead on a deaths per capita basis.
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coopasonic wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:25 pm
Kraken wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:26 am We're about to roll 13,000 here, btw.
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edit: On closer analysis it seems you are way ahead on a deaths per capita basis.
Looking at Statista.com looks like we are 3rd per capita by state in COVID deaths, while being far lower (~37th by state per capita) in cases. Curious why that would be, especially when it seems like mask compliance and general safety precautions here are better than what I hear about most other states.
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Max Peck wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:44 am It depends on whose numbers you believe are most reliable. The Johns Hopkins tracker currently says 380,361. The WorldOMeters tracker currently says 389,599.
I'm pretty sure that some of the discrepancy is due to the fact that they run on different time zones. They each have a slightly different 24-hour period.
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My initial thoughts for more deaths for fewer cases would be due to demographics:
-more elderly,
-more susceptible race,
-more susceptible health condition (weight, immunocompromised, heart health, etc.), and/or
-fewer hospital openings
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The Meal wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:18 pm My initial thoughts for more deaths for fewer cases would be due to demographics:
-more elderly,
-more susceptible race,
-more susceptible health condition (weight, immunocompromised, heart health, etc.), and/or
-fewer hospital openings
Also higher levels of healthcare inequity. Usually, though not always, economic.
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A very good, horrific point.
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To that point, this study's results were lost in the chaos of last week.


New Minnesota data release today. It's really bad.
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Blackhawk wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 1:18 pm
Max Peck wrote: Wed Jan 13, 2021 12:44 am It depends on whose numbers you believe are most reliable. The Johns Hopkins tracker currently says 380,361. The WorldOMeters tracker currently says 389,599.
I'm pretty sure that some of the discrepancy is due to the fact that they run on different time zones. They each have a slightly different 24-hour period.
Johns Hopkins seems to have been consistently reporting lower US numbers than WorldOMeters for as long as I've been paying attention. I suspect that it's due to some combination of reporting lag and differing inputs, but I've never really tried to confirm that. At any rate, for the big picture I'm generally more interested in the slope of the graphs than the specific day-to-day numbers, and there isn't any significant difference in any of the sources when it comes to that.
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