Election integrity and the transfer of power
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Meanwhile, they have delayed again and now might vote on Tuesday for impeachment. What a show of resolve.
Edit: The plan if they do vote for impeachment is to delay sending it to the Senate no matter what. They don't want to hamstring the beginning of the Biden Presidency. Yeah because Republicans are going to be tripping over themselves to allow votes on Biden's top priorities. We'll see.
Edit: The plan if they do vote for impeachment is to delay sending it to the Senate no matter what. They don't want to hamstring the beginning of the Biden Presidency. Yeah because Republicans are going to be tripping over themselves to allow votes on Biden's top priorities. We'll see.
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It really doesn't matter when the Senate gets it, they are not going to vote to convict. They might get to 55 votes, but it will never go above that.
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I don't disagree. What I'm more thinking about is that the Democratic leadership is just missing that this an emergency right now. They needed to send a strong message *Thursday* or *Friday*. Instead, they are playing the same old games and following the same failed playbooks.
Edit: This is also almost certainly a leadership issue because 195 of 222 House Democrats have signed onto the Articles of Impeachment that Raskin, Lieu, and Cicilline drew up. There is also a chance that they think or maybe even know they don't have the votes though I find that unlikely.
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Agolf is taking a tour to Alamo, Texas. Not "The" Alamo (which is in San Antonio), but Alamo Total Landscaping.
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^^^Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 2:36 pmGood. That will probably be the best method of shutting these assholes down. Money as speech, starve the beast, etc.malchior wrote:"Marriott suspends political donations to GOP lawmakers who sided with Trump and objected to Biden's certification as president"
This
Corporate "free speech" not talking about the GOP is the thing most likely to heel the non believers, IMO. Of course grassroots donations will that in but that's less guns the donators are buying.
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Every new piece of footage is worse than the last. Jesus.
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Pelosi had to prep for her 60 Minutes interview. If you don't get 60 Minutes, you don't get the nation. Also, the Diff'rent Strokes.. you can't be on the wrong side of a very special episode Diff'rent Strokes.malchior wrote: ↑Sun Jan 10, 2021 3:02 pmI don't disagree. What I'm more thinking about is that the Democratic leadership is just missing that this an emergency right now. They needed to send a strong message *Thursday* or *Friday*. Instead, they are playing the same old games and following the same failed playbooks.
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I look forward to hearing Cruz bitching about a lack of campaign funds.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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I hope they're making enough key arrests and disrupting communications sufficiently to disrupt the riots coming next weekend, but this doesn't feel like something we can arrest our way out of.
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Speaking of a lack of campaign funds, Stripe is out, too.
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Or campaign staff.
Ted Cruz’s 2016 presidential campaign chair denounces him for ‘assault on our democracy’ after Capitol riot
Blowback for Sen. Ted Cruz’s efforts to derail President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, even after a mob stormed the Capitol, escalated dramatically Sunday when the chairman of his 2016 presidential campaign denounced him for abetting an “assault on our democracy.”
“Donald Trump and those who aided and abetted him in his relentless assault on our Democracy – including Senators Josh Hawley and Ted Cruz – must be denounced,” wrote longtime Cruz friend Chad Sweet, a former CIA operative, investment banker and chief of staff at the Department of Homeland Security. “In particular, I made it clear to Senator Cruz, whom I have known for years, before the Joint Session of Congress, that if he proceeded to object to the Electoral count of the legitimate slates of delegates certified by the States, I could no longer support him.”
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This is a significant shift, they don't even want to buy these fuckers.
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I sent them an email asking why they have an idiot for a chairman.
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Canary thoughts
My night prayer:
Please lord, make someone at Project Veritas receive Nancy Pelosi's "stolen laptop". And make them receive the laptop of any high ranking democratic official who had theirs stolen too. There must be enough patriots out there to make this happen.
One thing is clear: There is clearly something damning on that laptop she doesn't want the world to see via a leak. That is exactly why she is so forcefully pushing this whole 2nd impeachment charade and why most of social media silenced or deleted President Trump's accounts today; so he can't retweet or repost what has been found on the laptop.
What could it be? Email trails about the election? About the recount? Correspondence with Dominion officials?
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Idiot is being very generous.
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This is pretty insane as far as hacks go,
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I find it highly unlikely that authorities are using hacked information to confirm riot attendees personal information.
He won. Period.
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They have mined every original Parler post with meta data intact. This means geolocation data and time. I am sure that AWS might be implored to share that data with the FBI anyways of course (plus they have the cell phone data from anyone dumb enough to leave their normal phone on), but this is a pretty hard to recover from situation for parler on top of everything else they have going against them right now. I mean they were able to create millions of admin accounts and basically everyone on parler just got doxxed. This is epic.
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Forgot to drop this in yesterday. It adds fuel to the need to investigate the insurrection publicly. Sheldon Whitehouse has called for one that'll also consider sanctions or expulsion of Cruz, Hawley, and others potentially and asks that they not be included on any committees investigating such.
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Now, it looks like they have not only the posts with meta data, but photos of state id’s:
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I'd disagree. I think that every GOP member right now that has these firecrackers exploding in their hands is learning a good lesson about tossing firecrackers into crowded movie theaters. Maybe, just maybe, the lesson will hurt enough that it sinks in and they don't do it again.
These are people who aren't going to be punished or prosecuted for any of the harm they've inflicted on the nation over the years, and a little poetic justice doesn't bother me at all. The nutters are going to nut, and I'd rather they be nutting at their own side than mine.
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Enough wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 9:30 amThey have mined every original Parler post with meta data intact. This means geolocation data and time. I am sure that AWS might be implored to share that data with the FBI anyways of course (plus they have the cell phone data from anyone dumb enough to leave their normal phone on), but this is a pretty hard to recover from situation for parler on top of everything else they have going against them right now. I mean they were able to create millions of admin accounts and basically everyone on parler just got doxxed. This is epic.
My point is that the authorities usually don't turn to illegally gained information when looking for info on suspects. That way leads to cases being thrown out of court.
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That talks about no-fly lists which seemed to have been debunked in the R&P Pictures thread.infinitelurker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:25 amNow, it looks like they have not only the posts with meta data, but photos of state id’s:
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While amusing (to me anyway), it should also be noted that the hacking is a crime.infinitelurker wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 11:25 amNow, it looks like they have not only the posts with meta data, but photos of state id’s:
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(Un?)fortunately not every cop in the area got the memo to let democracy fall that day.
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I still just can't process this.
Try to get your head around this:
people thought they were going to storm the Capitol, kill or take hostage members of Congress, force them to name Trump the winner of the election & place him in power for another 4 years (or whatever) & then fly home & go back to work.
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It made me chuckle at their stupidity. Of course there may have been some that expected Agolf to grant them a position in the junta.
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I don't think we need to arrest our way out of it. By making enough high-profile arrests, you can hopefully disaude all but the most dedicated freedom cosplayers. I do think a fair number of people probably attended the rally without fully realizing what was going to happen, and others maybe figured they'd be protected by the vast numbers. Now that they see so many people getting arrested/losing their jobs/etc., I think those casual seditionists will recalculate the odds and be much more likely to sit out round two.
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Yep, it gives new meaning to the term "weekend warrior." Also note the paltry turnout for post insurrection Agolf rallies.ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:19 pmI don't think we need to arrest our way out of it. By making enough high-profile arrests, you can hopefully disaude all but the most dedicated freedom cosplayers. I do think a fair number of people probably attended the rally without fully realizing what was going to happen, and others maybe figured they'd be protected by the vast numbers. Now that they see so many people getting arrested/losing their jobs/etc., I think those casual seditionists will recalculate the odds and be much more likely to sit out round two.
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Large segments of these people also believe that world events are dictated by a Satanic pedo-cult headed by Soros and run out of a pizza parlor. Taking part in an insurrection on Wednesday and heading back to work on Friday doesn't seem that much of a stretch if that's your baseline mindset about reality.
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+1. That is why I think Wray is quietly going to be in retrospect seen as a bit of a key player. The FBI didn't have the jurisdiction to stop it but they will get the response right. And that response is built out around making enough noise to make follow on efforts too personally expensive. I hope it works.ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:19 pmI don't think we need to arrest our way out of it. By making enough high-profile arrests, you can hopefully disaude all but the most dedicated freedom cosplayers. I do think a fair number of people probably attended the rally without fully realizing what was going to happen, and others maybe figured they'd be protected by the vast numbers. Now that they see so many people getting arrested/losing their jobs/etc., I think those casual seditionists will recalculate the odds and be much more likely to sit out round two.
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I hope you are right. While hoping I've been over exposed to vocal extremism, I keep end up finding out I've been under estimating the deplorables and the gravity of their messaging. Time and time again. I've been searching for my composure and my will to look away from what happened over the last week and coming up short.
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I would place a large bet that many if not most didn't get past the "storm the castle/Capitol" part, mentally. Doesn't seem like a crowd that is into introspection and critical thinking.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Mon Jan 11, 2021 12:09 pm I still just can't process this.
Try to get your head around this:
people thought they were going to storm the Capitol, kill or take hostage members of Congress, force them to name Trump the winner of the election & place him in power for another 4 years (or whatever) & then fly home & go back to work.
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These are diplomatic and line of succession problems. No big deal.
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Why won't they have a hearing?
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