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2021 is truly the best year to upgrade your GPU

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Re: 2021 is truly the best year to upgrade your GPU

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They might not care, but the end-users who are desperately trying to obtain cards certainly do. You can't alienate your core market and expect sunshine all the while pretending nothing's changed. The benefit might be short-lived but have long-term consequences.

But I rest my case, I guess prices are better if they're higher... :twisted:
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Core market has shifted away from retail single purchase boxes.
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Gave up on ordering a custom built gaming rig. The local Microcenter has some NVIDIA RTX 3070 periodically in their house PowerSpec brand. The case is a cheaper LianLi 205 rather than the 4000D or LianCool II I wanted but the rest of the parts should be ok even though it's a MSI rather than ASUS motherboard. I'm most likely to have to replace the case fans.
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In regards to locking the 3060 against mining and releasing a dedicated mining card, the buzz I'm hearing is that A) the lock does nothing, as it is at the driver level and will be reverse engineered on day 1, so it is mostly for press. B) the new card has nothing to do with making gamers happy or increasing supply (the supply shortage is silicon, not manufactured cards.) When new cards get released, miners upgrade, and their used cards flood the secondary market, which gamers snap up instead of buying new cards, always running the top card of the previous generation instead of a lower card of the current generation (the GTX 1080 is faster than the RTX 2060, and the 3060 'locked' card is slower than the 2080/2090s miners are using now.) With the dedicated mining card, Nvidia is mostly acting to eliminate the secondary market when their next generation hits, as nobody is going to buy used mining-only cards.

So they've done nothing but take away a cheap avenue for cards and give themselves a PR boost.
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Id never buy a known used mining card.
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Blackhawk wrote: Sun Feb 21, 2021 1:49 pm In regards to locking the 3060 against mining and releasing a dedicated mining card, the buzz I'm hearing is that A) the lock does nothing, as it is at the driver level and will be reverse engineered on day 1, so it is mostly for press

They've explained that it's at the card's Bios level, with the software talking to the hardware level using a handshake, which would be hard to reverse engineer unless they were to completely rewrite the Bios to fool the software.
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Wed Feb 17, 2021 3:38 pm I REALLY hope that crypto-mining from home computers dies a fast, hard death....and soon. I know that Nvidia and AMD sell in bulk directly to "mining farms", which is not helping, either.
IDK anything about that, but having edited >800 GTC 2021 session descriptions for NVIDIA (and still counting), I can tell you that there's insane demand for their GPUs in AI deployment. From automotive to healthcare to supply chain to oil&gas to XR developers, everyone's buying GPUs right now.
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Zotac enrages gamers with tweet celebrating crypto mining

Boy did they shoot themselves are what?

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Again, probably not! Mining is a golden goose for these companies.
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I decided the best way to get an upgraded GPU is a new PC and my youngest needs an upgrade (hand me down)... best I could find was cyberpowerPC saying they could get me a system with a 3080 in six weeks. I couldn't find any PC builder that could fulfill my wish, though 1 or 2 offered 3090s for an extra $2k.
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