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Now at 460 m/s. SUFR (Straighten Up and Fly Right) engaged. Parachute deployed.
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Chute worked!
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Touchdown confirmed!
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Next up, the first photo. Should involve a shadow dominating the Mars landscape.

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So crazy that worked. w00t!
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That seemed to go fast. Got there then down then landed. Did it not orbit some?

Had to keep reminding myself the lander was sitting on Mars at least 11 minutes before we found out it was sitting there lol. It was like "Hello? helloOo? This thing working? Im here"
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When i was a kid it always seemed like it was run by all old professional folks. Now Im older than them and it feels like its a bunch of college kids running it all lol.
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Sweet success! I did a little happy dance.
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Damnit that was awesome to watch. Crazy how complicated that is and how smoothly it appears to function.

Congrats, NASA!
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Amazing.
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I like it has it's wheel in the pic.
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Love those pics of the surface with the shadow of Perseverance in the shot!
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Daehawk wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 4:58 pmDid it not orbit some?
Nope. It switched from "let's aim for Mars" to "let's get a RADAR lock of the ground" about eight minutes before it was on the surface.
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Daehawk wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:00 pm When i was a kid it always seemed like it was run by all old professional folks. Now Im older than them and it feels like its a bunch of college kids running it all lol.
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Now it gets to drive around an poop out 72 core samples for a future mission to scoop up and send back to earth.
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Every time we pull this off it's mind bogglingly amazing. Congrats to the team at JPL!
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That was quick.

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Will skycrane landing methods become standard for heavier loads, including manned ones?
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Holman wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:04 pm
Daehawk wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:00 pm When i was a kid it always seemed like it was run by all old professional folks. Now Im older than them and it feels like its a bunch of college kids running it all lol.
I imagine everyone in that room has at least one Ph.D.
I'm guessing at least several. They are a room full of scientists and engineers, afterall.
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Saw the landing with kids. That was hella cool.
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How far off did the skycrane go to crash?
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Can’t wait for Perseverance to gently deposit Ingenuity in a couple of days and hope to see a successful flight of the first copter on Mars.
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$iljanus wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:24 pm Can’t wait for Perseverance to gently deposit Ingenuity in a couple of days and hope to see a successful flight of the first copter on Mars.
It's going to be a few weeks before they deploy the helicopter.
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AWS260 wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:29 pm
$iljanus wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:24 pm Can’t wait for Perseverance to gently deposit Ingenuity in a couple of days and hope to see a successful flight of the first copter on Mars.
It's going to be a few weeks before they deploy the helicopter.
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Hope they get some good use out of it before its covered in too much dust to function.

First flight up "Hey whats that in the distance? Looks like ruined skyscrapers" :)
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Holman wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:08 pm Will skycrane landing methods become standard for heavier loads, including manned ones?
A crewed ship needs to be able to launch again. The sky crane is a one-way trip. Thanks to Mars having 1/4 earth gravity, Starship will be able to both land and take off again, assuming it can refuel on the ground.
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One of the coolest things about the landing was that in case their favoured spot wasn't so great, the lander was programmed to automatically find a better place within the crater via the data it had collected when approaching the area.
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Kraken wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:12 pm
Holman wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:08 pm Will skycrane landing methods become standard for heavier loads, including manned ones?
A crewed ship needs to be able to launch again. The sky crane is a one-way trip. Thanks to Mars having 1/4 earth gravity, Starship will be able to both land and take off again, assuming it can refuel on the ground.
But a crew doesn't have to leave on the same ship that brought it.

I was thinking of a scenario where a future Mars base is centered around a large return vessel but supplied and manned by crews that arrive via smaller/cheaper/frequent lander-only missions.

Of course that only works once there's a more or less permanent presence on the planet.
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Holman wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:31 pm
Kraken wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 6:12 pm
Holman wrote: Thu Feb 18, 2021 5:08 pm Will skycrane landing methods become standard for heavier loads, including manned ones?
A crewed ship needs to be able to launch again. The sky crane is a one-way trip. Thanks to Mars having 1/4 earth gravity, Starship will be able to both land and take off again, assuming it can refuel on the ground.
But a crew doesn't have to leave on the same ship that brought it.

I was thinking of a scenario where a future Mars base is centered around a large return vessel but supplied and manned by crews that arrive via smaller/cheaper/frequent lander-only missions.

Of course that only works once there's a more or less permanent presence on the planet.
Sure, I can imagine a Mars Gateway for interplanetary craft with shuttles going up and down. That's similar to what NASA has in mind for the moon, although I think the Artemis lander will leave behind its landing platform the way Apollo did. Until you can refuel locally, it's hard to lug unneeded hardware back up the well. In the early stages of settling Mars, one-way trips will be useful -- the lander could stay behind as a habitat, for example, or be disassembled and repurposed. It still wouldn't be a sky crane, though.

For future rovers, sure, NASA's two for two and will surely keep doing that.
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Dont know why they would bother. Cant even get a place like that on the moon for refuels and stuff.
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Any word on the rumor that Perseverance has landed, collected all the scrap on Mars including old rovers and made a robot army then sent terms asking for our surrender yet?
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Martians be like "Now wtf are they doing?"
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