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Poll: Will you boycott Blizzard?
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Re: Poll: Will you boycott Blizzard?
which translates into layoffs at some point to possibly innocent people or the victims themselvesLawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:38 pm This is all that matters:
If not buying a game translates to lower revenues which translates to a lower share price, or committing to not buying a game translates to lower guidance which translates to a lower share price, ATVI will act. If not, they won't.
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Re: Poll: Will you boycott Blizzard?
In addition to the company's history of sexual abuse, there is Blizzard's taking action against a Hearthstone player for saying something that offended the Chinese Communist Party.
I haven't bought a Blizzard game since Starcraft 1. If I do buy one, I'll pay as much money (or more) to an organization such as RAINN that deals with the consequences.
In fact, I'll do that now because I recently bought Star Control: Origins, a Stardock game.
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I haven't bought a Blizzard game since Starcraft 1. If I do buy one, I'll pay as much money (or more) to an organization such as RAINN that deals with the consequences.
In fact, I'll do that now because I recently bought Star Control: Origins, a Stardock game.
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That's not a bad approach at all. Funny how these issues can be something other than black-and-white.
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Re: Poll: Will you boycott Blizzard?
If creating an environment like what's been described at Blizzard results in the business sinking, I'm okay with that. All of those people will be inconvenienced and harmed, and some may be innocent - but life will move on and the lessons learned there should be a warning to other businesses, creating better working conditions for more future employees than those who were harmed in the making of the lesson.naednek wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:08 pmwhich translates into layoffs at some point to possibly innocent people or the victims themselvesLawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:38 pmIf not buying a game translates to lower revenues which translates to a lower share price, or committing to not buying a game translates to lower guidance which translates to a lower share price, ATVI will act. If not, they won't.
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Sort of like a carbon offset. It isn't a perfect solution, and doesn't directly address the issue, but it does balance out such a purchase. Even more so if we make it known that we're doing so.
Again, not everybody is going to be able to address every single social issue. Nobody has that kind of time/financial/mental resources. Especially if they're not the type to just take others' word on what is good and bad and prefer to look at the evidence and decide for themselves. We do what we can, more on those that hit close to home, less on others.
Again, not everybody is going to be able to address every single social issue. Nobody has that kind of time/financial/mental resources. Especially if they're not the type to just take others' word on what is good and bad and prefer to look at the evidence and decide for themselves. We do what we can, more on those that hit close to home, less on others.
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Re: Poll: Will you boycott Blizzard?
Sounds like something Bobby Kotick would say.naednek wrote: ↑Fri Oct 01, 2021 12:08 pmwhich translates into layoffs at some point to possibly innocent people or the victims themselvesLawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Sep 30, 2021 4:38 pm This is all that matters:
If not buying a game translates to lower revenues which translates to a lower share price, or committing to not buying a game translates to lower guidance which translates to a lower share price, ATVI will act. If not, they won't.
You don't perpetuate a toxic environment because some people may lose their jobs. And it's not strictly a binary choice. Threats of lower revenues can spur action before they actually become reality. Ideally a boycott changes corporate behavior rather than destroys a business.
But even if it led to layoffs, do you think someone working there would rather be sexually assaulted/harassed or laid off? How about their coworkers? "You can keep your job and we will continue to harass and demean women or you can get laid off and it ends...."
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To do,l for October 8, 2021. Sign up for Hearthstone, start ripping the CCP in chat.
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Sounds like something I would do.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Oct 05, 2021 2:37 pmTo do,l for October 8, 2021. Sign up for Hearthstone, start ripping the CCP in chat.
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I'm not sure Blizzard cares in the slightest if you rip on China if you don't happen to be a famous gamer from Hong Kong that does it right after they win a Blizzard tournament on a Blizzard livestream.