See? We even have to redefine 'optimism' as 'believing we're about to be doomed' vs 'already doomed.'
[America] Domestic violent extremism
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See? We even have to redefine 'optimism' as 'believing we're about to be doomed' vs 'already doomed.'
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So what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pmShe resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.gbasden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pmRegardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pmYes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.stimpy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pmAre you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.
Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
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Shit content, shit source, shit post.stimpy wrote:How about you pay closer attention to the content, not the source?
If I thought it was in anyway manipulative or misleading, I wouldnt have posted it.
Of course you would post it, stimpy.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
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Good to know you're okay with someone from the Democratic party trying to blame the horrific incident on karma, because....you know....Wisconsin.....
There is no doubt or argument she said it, so why are you defending her? Because I linked to The Daily Mail?
That doesnt make it any less true. No justification for saying it's "shit content" unless you agree with her.
Hooray for you.
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geezer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pmSo what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pmShe resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.gbasden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pmRegardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pmYes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.stimpy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pmAre you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.
Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
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He won. Period.
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Yeah, because every time a Republican says something stupid and appalling, that's EXACTLY what happens to them......fucking ridiculous point.geezer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pmSo what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pmShe resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.gbasden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pmRegardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pmYes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.stimpy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pmAre you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.
Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
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That someone from the Democratic party is irrelevant. It's a single loonie, and has no bearing on anything outside of her immediate presence. It isn't representative of anything. It is, at best, a head-shaker about a single individual saying something distasteful in isolation.
Nobody defended her. We criticized you for pretending that what she said mattered just because she was a Democrat.
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"If the facts don't fit the theory, change the facts." - Albert Einstein
"I don't stand by anything." - Trump
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
"I don't stand by anything." - Trump
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
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Just so we’re clear, is your contention that Marjorie Taylor Greene isn’t stupid and appalling, or isn’t embraced by the GOP? How about Trump? Did Michael Flynn, former National Security Advisor pardoned by the Republican President for federal crimes, not recently say that America should have just one religion? Yeah. Both parties.stimpy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:56 pmYeah, because every time a Republican says something stupid and appalling, that's EXACTLY what happens to them......fucking ridiculous point.geezer wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pmSo what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pmShe resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.gbasden wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pmRegardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pmYes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.stimpy wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pmAre you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.
Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
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I wasn't going to jump on but that made me laugh for two reasons. 1) It's funny in itself. 2) I thought it was extended funny because I am under the impression chrerry picking went into the book of the "Paternal Power Structure" verboten expressions.
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A President, National Security Adviser or US Representative would be more cherry than some random state level Democrat.
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"I don't stand by anything." - Trump
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Every time a rando Republican says or does something stupid and it's reported as "news", you guys jump on it as if it's representative of all Republicans.
The fact you keep trying to deflect from this is telling.
The fact you keep trying to deflect from this is telling.
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Yeah.....I keep forgetting how impartial this board is.
No bias here......nothing to see........
No bias here......nothing to see........
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Assuming that it's true (I'm not sure - I'll watch closer), this has what to do with you doing it?
If it is such a terrible thing to do, why are you using it to excuse doing the same thing?
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Pfft. This board will be the first to tell you that this board is biased.
But there are different kinds of bias.
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I want to join a forum that I know is predominantly run by those who love puppies so I can get pissed at people talking about how much they love puppies.
He won. Period.
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Bullshit. That's what puppies are.
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I wish this was about bias. You can discuss bias at least.
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He won. Period.
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Bias is refusing to recognize that the GOP is actively kicking out those who don’t follow Trump (Liz Cheney) and have decades of branding their own as RINOs.
It’s not bias to call out your feeble attempts at argument.
It’s not bias to call out your feeble attempts at argument.
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“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
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"There is bias!"
"Yes, we admit that."
"This isn't about bias!"
There they go! Everybody wave!
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Thats exactly what it is.
When you can search the board and find hardly a trace of any Dems being called out for their issues, it's bias at it's best.
I guess when you're brainwashed into thinking your party can do no wrong, or if they do it's justified for whatever reason (Trump), that's not surprising.
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Apparently you guys need to call a secret meeting, because not all members of your tribe agree that the board is biased.
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It's called balance.
You should try it sometime.....
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The idea that democrats can't be criticized is ludicrous. We have multiple threads about the disfunction and bad choices they are making.
There are still conservatives on the board (that aren't crazy), a lot of moderates, and whatever Little Raven considers himself now .
There are still conservatives on the board (that aren't crazy), a lot of moderates, and whatever Little Raven considers himself now .
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It's important to see past bias for each issue. I lean heavily to the left but reject wokeness and SJW. I support AOC on climate change, but she is an idiot for voting against reconciliation. I support police reform but defund the police is self-destructive madness. I support free speech which means I oppose shouting down speakers on campus.
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OO: Not a great plan. When they come, and they will, they’ll come for you.noxiousdog wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:55 am There are still conservatives on the board (that aren't crazy), a lot of moderates, and whatever Little Raven considers himself now .
Loki: I have an army.
OO: We have a Drazzil.
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The Democrats couldn’t agree on Biden’s spending bill. The idea that there is any Dem propaganda solidarity is fantasy.
Did you not see the cartoon about Dem propaganda and Republican memes?
Did you not see the cartoon about Dem propaganda and Republican memes?
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“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
"I don't stand by anything." - Trump
“Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.” - John Stuart Mill, Inaugural Address Delivered to the University of St Andrews, 2/1/1867
“It is the impractical things in this tumultuous hell-scape of a world that matter most. A book, a name, chicken soup. They help us remember that, even in our darkest hour, life is still to be savored.” - Poe, Altered Carbon
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The Dems and and a small number of Republicans comprise the spectrum of American politicians committed to the self-governing, self-legislating Republic established in the 18th century and enduring through all the crises and progress since then. There's a wide range of political opinion within this group.
Most current Republicans and their allies have decided that it would be better to destroy that Republic in order to preserve white supremacy at any cost (including oligarchy).
It's that simple.
Most current Republicans and their allies have decided that it would be better to destroy that Republic in order to preserve white supremacy at any cost (including oligarchy).
It's that simple.
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Pff. Like you people don't know I'd fight an army fer you.Blackhawk wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:38 pmOO: Not a great plan. When they come, and they will, they’ll come for you.noxiousdog wrote: ↑Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:55 am There are still conservatives on the board (that aren't crazy), a lot of moderates, and whatever Little Raven considers himself now .
Loki: I have an army.
OO: We have a Drazzil.
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Pic is funny. You could scratch "meme" and "propaganda" off that puppy and it would be even more relevant.
Edit for: You would need to add an "s" for that last statement to make any kind of sense. Thought I saw an "s". Long day today, Long LONG day.
Maybe I saw what I wanted to. You know with the GOP being like the terminator and the Democrats cowering like schoolgirls under a desk. Took one look at it, nodded to myself and thought "Yeah makes sense"
Serves me right.
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Add another thing democrats and the left are shit at in America: Domestic violent extremism.
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