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Firearm Policy - Background Checks

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Close the loopholes. No more sales without a valid and verifiable form. No more default approval if the bureaucracy can't get you an answer in three days.

I'd even back a waiting period, with the ability to waive it for anyone that has an active protective order.

No one that needs a gun today should be getting a gun today. Much like the signs on the cases at the head shop,

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there are certain things that you should get tossed from every single gun shop.

Regulate private sales with the requirement. If we can load in thousands of people into a concert with ticket barcodes, we can set up a code scan for a valid purchase license that's good for a set period of time. And failed attempts should be logged and investigated.
It's almost as if people are the problem.
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My wife's oldest son spent around five years in a juvenile boys home but was able to buy firearms. Years later after he got out.
I would have thought that would have disqualified him but evidently not.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:59 pm Close the loopholes. No more sales without a valid and verifiable form. No more default approval if the bureaucracy can't get you an answer in three days.

I'd even back a waiting period, with the ability to waive it for anyone that has an active protective order.

No one that needs a gun today should be getting a gun today. Much like the signs on the cases at the head shop,

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there are certain things that you should get tossed from every single gun shop.
I'd agree with that. I'd add (from experience working in a gun store) that there need to be severe penalties for failing to follow the letter of the law, with both 'secret shoppers' and surprise inspections to confirm it. If not, too many "good ol' boys" selling gun shops will find ways to skirt it. But if the penalties are so severe that they're actually afraid of losing their licenses and possibly their businesses, they'll play along. It is exactly how Nevada drove the mob out of the Casino industry (or, rather, made them start running them legitimately.)

As to private sales, I'm way too far out of the loop on that to have meaningful input.
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dbt1949 wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:21 pm My wife's oldest son spent around five years in a juvenile boys home but was able to buy firearms. Years later after he got out.
I would have thought that would have disqualified him but evidently not.
To be fair (with exceptions for extreme cases) what you do when you're 14 shouldn't be held against you when you're 40. Although I do think there should be a 'probation' period between the time you turn 18 and around 25, rather than just having everything you did at 17 vanish six months later. Something where you don't have to report it to employers, but it'll still show up on some types of official background checks.
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Blackhawk wrote: Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:28 pm I'd agree with that. I'd add (from experience working in a gun store) that there need to be severe penalties for failing to follow the letter of the law, with both 'secret shoppers' and surprise inspections to confirm it. If not, too many "good ol' boys" selling gun shops will find ways to skirt it. But if the penalties are so severe that they're actually afraid of losing their licenses and possibly their businesses, they'll play along. It is exactly how Nevada drove the mob out of the Casino industry (or, rather, made them start running them legitimately.)
They do that for Tobacco and Alcohol. Just missing the Firearms.
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The NICS system/database needs to be fixed. The DoD, JD and other federal agencies, and states all need to share data. Currently the gaps are huge.

Taking it a step further, a federal FOID-like card should be required for purchases.
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