[Disney+] Obi-Wan Kenobi
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Anyone that thinks that kids (especially wee ones) aren't slippery as hell (or can be) have not tried to wrangle a small kid.
Reminds me of this old Ray Romano bit:
https://youtu.be/6ih1dswEJtY?t=86
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They’ve already done it for Luke Skywalker.Daehawk wrote:Will never be the same. And if they did that doesn't that bring up rights and his estate receiving royalties?
The rights and estate question is a good one though. I don’t know the answer to that. But the voice actor community is freaking out a bit over this tech and what it means for the future.
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And now I see in the first Episode, at 38:50 - there is an Astromech that could easily be R2D2 in the background... which is kinda bummer for me - as I wanted Obi-wan's door droid to be a buried R2.Unagi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:20 pmConfirmed on the silver one speaking - she serves food to Leia.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:40 pmIt was the silver one.
There was a shot (which felt very deliberate) of the gold one in conversation, but you couldn't hear it's voice. I'm guessing it's not 3PO.
The gold one is more in the background, I've re-watched it, you actually can hear a line (@ 35:19) that he gives over the din. Sounds a lot like him. And - he's got that silver leg.
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My son saw that as well. It was in the shadow and you saw the blue and white lights.Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 8:32 amAnd now I see in the first Episode, at 38:50 - there is an Astromech that could easily be R2D2 in the background... which is kinda bummer for me - as I wanted Obi-wan's door droid to be a buried R2.Unagi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:20 pmConfirmed on the silver one speaking - she serves food to Leia.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:40 pmIt was the silver one.
There was a shot (which felt very deliberate) of the gold one in conversation, but you couldn't hear it's voice. I'm guessing it's not 3PO.
The gold one is more in the background, I've re-watched it, you actually can hear a line (@ 35:19) that he gives over the din. Sounds a lot like him. And - he's got that silver leg.
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Hmm.
Actually, in the scene I was talking about, R2 is fully lit and in one of the bright rooms on Alderon, it's right when Mr.&Mrs. Organa figure out that Leia was out in the forest.
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It can't be 3P0, right? Because he was built by Anakin on Tatooine and was only finished around Episode 1, right?Unagi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:20 pmConfirmed on the silver one speaking - she serves food to Leia.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:40 pmIt was the silver one.
There was a shot (which felt very deliberate) of the gold one in conversation, but you couldn't hear it's voice. I'm guessing it's not 3PO.
The gold one is more in the background, I've re-watched it, you actually can hear a line (@ 35:19) that he gives over the din. Sounds a lot like him. And - he's got that silver leg.
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Regarding R2-D2 and C3PO in Obi-Wan:
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(head scratcher)El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 pmIt can't be 3P0, right? Because he was built by Anakin on Tatooine and was only finished around Episode 1, right?Unagi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:20 pmConfirmed on the silver one speaking - she serves food to Leia.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:40 pmIt was the silver one.
There was a shot (which felt very deliberate) of the gold one in conversation, but you couldn't hear it's voice. I'm guessing it's not 3PO.
The gold one is more in the background, I've re-watched it, you actually can hear a line (@ 35:19) that he gives over the din. Sounds a lot like him. And - he's got that silver leg.
In this series, Obi-wan is protecting the young boy Luke on Tatooine (just before Episode IV), not young Anakin (Episode I)
3P0 is complete by the time of the Clone Wars / Episode 3 - and this is 10 years after all that.
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I’m strangely fascinated by the footwear progression.
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lol -that is so funny, so was I!
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Alas, only 51 minutes.
It was good. I'm sad the series is over. They didn't fix too many things, but they put a slightly better varnish on it all.
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Awesome finale! To my way of thinking they seemed to address the bulk of the continuity concerns - including the tenor of Leia's message to him in A New Hope.
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Good to know. I wasn't sure if I had the ability to sit for a 90+ minute episode of this show.
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You have to remember that with all Disney + shows….ESPECIALLY the Star Wars shows….you have to subtract about 45 minutes for the credits at the end. They need to thank everyone in English, German, French, Mandarin, Slovakian, Swahili, Urdu, Pig Latin, Esperanto, Narnian, and Cajun.
I loved Augie "Ben" Doggie. It was everything that Boba Fett wasn’t. Which is a good thing. We got a great side story with Reva, some badass light saber fu, no cyber newsies, and James Earl Jones. Now that’s Star Wars.
I was surprised to learn that light sabers have a stun setting though.
I loved Augie "Ben" Doggie. It was everything that Boba Fett wasn’t. Which is a good thing. We got a great side story with Reva, some badass light saber fu, no cyber newsies, and James Earl Jones. Now that’s Star Wars.
I was surprised to learn that light sabers have a stun setting though.
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I thought the series had its moments (and episode 5 in particular was great), though overall it left me wishing that they would just leave established characters and stories alone and move on to new characters / planets / stories. Kill the past, if you will.
Regarding the finale that we are discussing:
Regarding the finale that we are discussing:
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Unagi wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:29 pm(head scratcher)El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 4:24 pmIt can't be 3P0, right? Because he was built by Anakin on Tatooine and was only finished around Episode 1, right?Unagi wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 4:20 pmConfirmed on the silver one speaking - she serves food to Leia.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Sat Jun 18, 2022 3:40 pmIt was the silver one.
There was a shot (which felt very deliberate) of the gold one in conversation, but you couldn't hear it's voice. I'm guessing it's not 3PO.
The gold one is more in the background, I've re-watched it, you actually can hear a line (@ 35:19) that he gives over the din. Sounds a lot like him. And - he's got that silver leg.
In this series, Obi-wan is protecting the young boy Luke on Tatooine (just before Episode IV), not young Anakin (Episode I)
3P0 is complete by the time of the Clone Wars / Episode 3 - and this is 10 years after all that.
In my defense, the "young blonde boys being raised on Tatooine" stories are blending together in my head.
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I think that's been my biggest problem with both Obi-Wan and Boba Fett, and why I enjoyed The Mandalorian more. Knowing that all this stuff is official canon now, I can't help but look at Boba Fett in the original trilogy and think, "This was before he met a rad teenage biker gang." I don't need to know what Leia was like as a wisecracking 10-year old any more than I need to know in which corner of his cave Obi-Wan took his morning dumps.El Guapo wrote:I thought the series had its moments (and episode 5 in particular was great), though overall it left me wishing that they would just leave established characters and stories alone and move on to new characters / planets / stories. Kill the past, if you will.
Give me all the new stuff you can shove down the throat, but the constant filling in of backstory just whittles away the shadowy backstory constructs in my mind and replaces them with vivid, parkour-fueled cringe-acting replacements.
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Oddly enough, I kept watching secretly hoping that they'd kill off young Luke and Leia, kicking off the Alternate Universe Star Wars where the Empire lasts hundreds of years. Not that it was actually going to happen, but it would have been a ballsy move.YellowKing wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:11 amI think that's been my biggest problem with both Obi-Wan and Boba Fett, and why I enjoyed The Mandalorian more. Knowing that all this stuff is official canon now, I can't help but look at Boba Fett in the original trilogy and think, "This was before he met a rad teenage biker gang." I don't need to know what Leia was like as a wisecracking 10-year old any more than I need to know in which corner of his cave Obi-Wan took his morning dumps.El Guapo wrote:I thought the series had its moments (and episode 5 in particular was great), though overall it left me wishing that they would just leave established characters and stories alone and move on to new characters / planets / stories. Kill the past, if you will.
Give me all the new stuff you can shove down the throat, but the constant filling in of backstory just whittles away the shadowy backstory constructs in my mind and replaces them with vivid, parkour-fueled cringe-acting replacements.
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To El Guapo's point, I think it once again comes back around to the writing. It's really been the biggest flaw of the series, and kind of underpins the other problems people have had with performances, flat characters, etc.
I feel like I'm bashing the show a lot, but I'm honestly not trying to rain on anyone's parade. I enjoyed watching it and was suitably entertained, despite my criticisms. Star Wars is Star Wars, and as a fan I'm always going to enjoy it.
I feel like I'm bashing the show a lot, but I'm honestly not trying to rain on anyone's parade. I enjoyed watching it and was suitably entertained, despite my criticisms. Star Wars is Star Wars, and as a fan I'm always going to enjoy it.
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It was the look in his eyes, man! We gotta make our own inner dialogue.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 12:41 pmRe: Re: Re: Finale Spoiler
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I enjoyed the finale. It wasn’t perfect, but Star Wars rarely is. Overall I was really looking forward to this series and I wasn’t disappointed. I’d happily watch a season 2 if they want to make one.
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That was one of the more powerful scenes in Star Wars. Ranks right up there with Return of the Jedi, when Vader says "If you will not turn to the Dark Side, then perhaps she will." and Luke goes ape shit on Vader.
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Quoted for teh funny.YellowKing wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 10:11 am any more than I need to know in which corner of his cave Obi-Wan took his morning dumps.
Coffee spew moment.
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Finale spoilers:
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well considering this takes place prior to New hope and the rest of the trilogy, not much you can do about that...El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:09 am I thought the series had its moments (and episode 5 in particular was great), though overall it left me wishing that they would just leave established characters and stories alone and move on to new characters / planets / stories. Kill the past, if you will.
Regarding the finale that we are discussing:
Spoiler:
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Well, it is their script, of course, there is something they could do about ElG's point. The core of the complaint is just that the script shouldn't have put Obi-wan in a position to do that, at least without it being a little more obvious why he felt it was the right choice.naednek wrote: ↑Sun Jun 26, 2022 2:32 pmwell considering this takes place prior to New hope and the rest of the trilogy, not much you can do about that...El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 9:09 am I thought the series had its moments (and episode 5 in particular was great), though overall it left me wishing that they would just leave established characters and stories alone and move on to new characters / planets / stories. Kill the past, if you will.
Regarding the finale that we are discussing:
Spoiler:
Spoiler:
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I enjoyed the show but they really could have devoted 5 minutes per episode to give Reva a little more character development. Based on what we saw she was just one crazy woman who went from wanting revenge on Vader because he killed younglings to wanting to kill a child herself.
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So, (spoilers follow)
It was just pointed out to me that the 6 episodes of the Obi-wan series reflect the first 6 episodes of the Star Wars movies.
Episode I: Both start on Taatoine - with a force-sensitive child (little Anakin in Episode I, and little boy Luke in the Obi-wan series)
Episode II: The movie takes us to Corrisant with the gritty underbelly of the city scenes and bounty hunter chase, the series moves to that gritty city with a big bounty hunter chase.
Episode III: Obi-wan and Anakin duel and one is nearly burned alive, the series has Obi-wan and Anakin duel and one is nearly burned alive.
Episode IV: In A New Hope, Leia is rescued from a secured Imperial facility. In the series, Leia is rescued from a secured Imperial facility.
Episode V: For both - The good guys are pinned down and just barely escape Vader. For both: Arguably the best of the 6 episodes.
Episode VI: Luke knows it won't end until he faces Vader alone in a duel and explains this to Leia, who is quite worried... The series has Obi-wan know it won't end until he faces Vader alone in a duel and explains this to Leia, who is quite worried.
I thought that was kinda fun.
It was just pointed out to me that the 6 episodes of the Obi-wan series reflect the first 6 episodes of the Star Wars movies.
Episode I: Both start on Taatoine - with a force-sensitive child (little Anakin in Episode I, and little boy Luke in the Obi-wan series)
Episode II: The movie takes us to Corrisant with the gritty underbelly of the city scenes and bounty hunter chase, the series moves to that gritty city with a big bounty hunter chase.
Episode III: Obi-wan and Anakin duel and one is nearly burned alive, the series has Obi-wan and Anakin duel and one is nearly burned alive.
Episode IV: In A New Hope, Leia is rescued from a secured Imperial facility. In the series, Leia is rescued from a secured Imperial facility.
Episode V: For both - The good guys are pinned down and just barely escape Vader. For both: Arguably the best of the 6 episodes.
Episode VI: Luke knows it won't end until he faces Vader alone in a duel and explains this to Leia, who is quite worried... The series has Obi-wan know it won't end until he faces Vader alone in a duel and explains this to Leia, who is quite worried.
I thought that was kinda fun.
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It's like poetry. They rhyme.
Or... the franchise is so bereft of fresh inspiration it soft rebooted itself without realizing it.
Or... the franchise is so bereft of fresh inspiration it soft rebooted itself without realizing it.
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Yeah it's one of the things I love and hate about Star Wars. Love because it's a neat art form, and gives some sense of security and familiarity. Hate, because it boxes writers in creatively.
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I suspect that writers are boxed in more by studio executives' paralyzing fears about making anything materially different from a prior thing that made money.YellowKing wrote: ↑Mon Jun 27, 2022 8:18 am Yeah it's one of the things I love and hate about Star Wars. Love because it's a neat art form, and gives some sense of security and familiarity. Hate, because it boxes writers in creatively.
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I think you're definitely right in terms of movie/TV. I see it happen in the books as well though. However, I think on the literature front it's less about cyclical story arcs and more about making sure everything stays canon. It's why as much as I like the *idea* of all media being canon, it makes the universe far less exciting than the old expanded universe content.El Guapo wrote:I suspect that writers are boxed in more by studio executives' paralyzing fears about making anything materially different from a prior thing that made money.
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I enjoyed it. It cleared two concerns I had for certain.
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You guys have come up with (or at least written here) some ideas I hadn’t heard or thought of. Interesting takes.
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