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Alefroth wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 2:08 pm
stimpy wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:54 pm I know that almost all politicians these days, D and R, are self serving assholes and I would never try and defend any of them, but isnt shit like this just propaganda? How in the world does anyone know what they were fist bumping about, let alone saying as fact that it was about blocking aid to vets?

Maybe it was a congratulatory bump over finding out that lesion on his dick wasnt herpes.
Maybe it was secret code for "I'll see you in the locker room in 10".
Maybe it was to celebrate booking a trip together to Mexico.

You can take the optics and make them whatever you want.
Was it "Yay.....fuck them vets"? Maybe. But honestly, who really knows except those in the little circle jerk.
I'd kind of think you guys are smart enough to not get sucked into media manipulation such as this.
I'm not a self-serving asshole defender, but...
Am I defending them? No. I"m saying dont be so quick to lap up what the media serves you when you think it' fits your narrative.
That could turn you into a Republican.
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The plan was the same as always, governing by spite. (and maybe because they didn't get any grift for them or their donors).
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stimpy wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:54 pm I know that almost all politicians these days, D and R, are self serving assholes and I would never try and defend any of them, but isnt shit like this just propaganda? How in the world does anyone know what they were fist bumping about, let alone saying as fact that it was about blocking aid to vets?

Maybe it was a congratulatory bump over finding out that lesion on his dick wasnt herpes.
Maybe it was secret code for "I'll see you in the locker room in 10".
Maybe it was to celebrate booking a trip together to Mexico.

You can take the optics and make them whatever you want.
Was it "Yay.....fuck them vets"? Maybe. But honestly, who really knows except those in the little circle jerk.
I'd kind of think you guys are smart enough to not get sucked into media manipulation such as this.
Y’know, it is ok to sometimes just say “yeah, my side did a shitty thing”.
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Skinypupy wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 3:33 pm
stimpy wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:54 pm I know that almost all politicians these days, D and R, are self serving assholes and I would never try and defend any of them, but isnt shit like this just propaganda? How in the world does anyone know what they were fist bumping about, let alone saying as fact that it was about blocking aid to vets?

Maybe it was a congratulatory bump over finding out that lesion on his dick wasnt herpes.
Maybe it was secret code for "I'll see you in the locker room in 10".
Maybe it was to celebrate booking a trip together to Mexico.

You can take the optics and make them whatever you want.
Was it "Yay.....fuck them vets"? Maybe. But honestly, who really knows except those in the little circle jerk.
I'd kind of think you guys are smart enough to not get sucked into media manipulation such as this.
Y’know, it is ok to sometimes just say “yeah, my side did a shitty thing”.
Just refuse to see my point.
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If you’re willing to let vets be collateral damage, you are saying “It’s ok to fuck those vets.” While it may not be their primary intention, face eating leopards are going to eat faces.

And they should get condemned when they do it.

Fuck Ted Cruz. Once in general (lack of) principle. Second for his actions. Three times for being a hypocrite on vets.
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Vets have always gotten screwed in this country. Its shameful. Its not right. They should be held up and supported by the nation. And yet people still join to go get maimed and fly their flag proudly and vote Republican because FREEDOM.
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stimpy wrote: Sat Jul 30, 2022 12:54 pm I know that almost all politicians these days, D and R, are self serving assholes and I would never try and defend any of them, but isnt shit like this just propaganda? How in the world does anyone know what they were fist bumping about, let alone saying as fact that it was about blocking aid to vets?

Maybe it was a congratulatory bump over finding out that lesion on his dick wasnt herpes.
Maybe it was secret code for "I'll see you in the locker room in 10".
Maybe it was to celebrate booking a trip together to Mexico.

You can take the optics and make them whatever you want.
Was it "Yay.....fuck them vets"? Maybe. But honestly, who really knows except those in the little circle jerk.
I'd kind of think you guys are smart enough to not get sucked into media manipulation such as this.
While I somewhat agree with your point, I do have to mention you chastising anyone for jumping to conclusions over social media stuff is hypocritical.
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It's nice to know that with all the issues going on, this is important enough to be something that's planned and discussed in White House meetings.
Bravo.
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So either they were fist bumping just after voting down vet bennies or they were fist bumping because they just voted down vet bennies. Either way their assholes, rotten at being people, and they lost the benefit of the doubt from me around 2014.
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It was actually malchior that posted that, but I get your point......
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While I agree we shouldn’t assume it was the veterans losing benefits they were fist bumping over, I do think it’s safe to assume it was because they defeated their arch enemy the Democrats. Cruz has an illustrious and long history of being such a petty asshole that I believe it’s a fairly safe assumption.

Also, Jon Stewart is absolutely destroying Cruz over his attempts to lie and say the bill was changed at the last minute. He’s just brutal. And deservedly so.
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Jon Stewart should really run for office.
And bring 534 friends with him.
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Oh those poor republicans having to do the right thing. Wont someone think of their lobbyists.
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Jon Stewart is a national treasure. So much of this is his doing.
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Kurth wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 12:31 pm Jon Stewart is a national treasure. So much of this is his doing.
Agreed. He's amazing.
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As good as he was as a comedian he's just as good as a lobbyist.
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It's always nice when celebrities use their power for good and not being total shitbirds.
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The Senate has passed the PACT Act, the bill to expand benefits for veterans who were exposed to toxic burn pits, 86-11.
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Sometimes I think Romney isn't that bad and then.... :P
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Can't really find specifics, but I'm guessing it is related to comments he made earlier when it was being discussed.
In a statement, Romney called the scope and cost of the bill “astronomical and unjustified.” The Congressional Budget Office estimates the legislation would cost $667 billion over the next nine years.
Rand Paul voted against it because he said they can't prove they are sick because of serving in the military. Also, because Rand Paul is a douche.



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Rand Paul voted against it because he said they can't prove they are sick because of serving in the military. Also, because Rand Paul is a douche.
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Hey Rand...its a well known fact that 100% of the GOP in DC are evil stupid greedy repugnant assholes.
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$667B over nine years is 10% of the DoD budget ($777B this year). That seems like a lot.
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Kraken wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:14 pm $667B over nine years is 10% of the DoD budget ($777B this year). That seems like a lot.
In 9 years when the budget is double, it will be more like 5%.
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FWIW I get Romney's concern. However, that was something to think about before he supported (as a business leader and Presidential candidate) or voted on budgets that spent way, way, way more than that to put them in harm's way in the first place.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:12 am
Kraken wrote: Tue Aug 02, 2022 10:14 pm $667B over nine years is 10% of the DoD budget ($777B this year). That seems like a lot.
In 9 years when the budget is double, it will be more like 5%.
A story I read today put the price tag at $230B which, while not exactly bargain-bin stuff, seems more realistic to me.
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Rick Scott says that the militant left are the modern day book burners. Guess he didn't see the actual book burning encouraged by his party. It's always projection with these assholes.

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Is there such a thing as a non-bonkers speech at CPAC?
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Jeebus, didn't we just have a CPAC?
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malchior wrote: Wed Aug 03, 2022 10:39 am FWIW I get Romney's concern. However, that was something to think about before he supported (as a business leader and Presidential candidate) or voted on budgets that spent way, way, way more than that to put them in harm's way in the first place.

I think in a vote like this and this important and what its for you have to kinda weigh what not voting for it means even if you try to pretend you are against something else in it. Vote it through and fix what you didn't like about it later if its not that serious a deal compared to what the main bill is for.
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An interesting look at how Fox and what its audience want has changed:

https://www.thedailybeast.com/how-loyal ... 2c19ef33b4
Hannity’s inability to evolve with the changing right-wing media landscape—one that has long moved into darker ideological terrain after decades of loyally defending and touting the Republican Party above all else.

“The fundamental thing about Hannity is that he’s not an ideas guy. He’s a cheerleader,”...

... Lawrence similarly suggested that Watters et al better fit the network’s current business model largely revolving around “ginning up outrage cycles” and stoking culture-war controversy.
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Alefroth wrote: Fri Aug 05, 2022 9:19 pm Jeebus, didn't we just have a CPAC?
Don’t worry, when they establish their version of the Republic of Giliad every day can have a CPAC. And participation will be highly encouraged…
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$iljanus wrote: Sun Aug 07, 2022 12:56 pm And participation will be highly encouraged…
Then we actually have nothing to worry about. I'm about the only guy masking in areas where masking is highly encouraged. So highly encouraged seems to mean: "be the only doofus to participate and have people look at you funny."
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