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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:16 pm A lot of Kickstarter project managers are in panic mode right now, and a vast number of projects just got either seriously delayed, or are going to find themselves with major shipping issues when their pre-negotiated deals vanish with products already in production.
Yeah, I'd think so. Quite a few of my KS projects stopped naming names last year - they stopped telling everyone what outfit was fulfilling the orders ahead of time. I'm not aware of a current project that's using them, but I guess anything is possible.

I'm guessing Miniature Market / Asmodee logistics (or whatever they're calling themselves) is going to pick up a whole bunch of business. I'm waiting a game that's been sitting at a warehouse now for over a month and the shipper seemingly doesn't care to update with the publisher (at least, that's what backers are being told). Things still seem wacky by all accounts.
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jan 17, 2023 6:51 pm I wouldn't expect to see anything from Blacklist Games. Specifically:
Contra
Buddy Cop
Street Masters (reprints; Tide of the Dragon)
Dire Alliance
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I think the company is DOA and whatever it is that's been produced and is in China is going to disappear long before they (he?) is able to pay for warehousing and shipping to the United States.
Apparently there are some retailers in Greece and parts of Europe selling Dire Alliance.

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I was about to come in here and post that - after the email update. I guess someone shared it on social media last week and on BGG? It's been for sale since October of last year? And I guess now that people are sharing it online, BLG magically releases an update today about how that vendor paid for a bunch of copies to be airlifted to the shop? The only vendor in the entire world...in Greece....paid to airlift 19 copies. Seems reasonable.
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I'm assuming with that kind of business acumen, that store won't be around much longer.
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After delay followed by delay from a double project I backed (they launched a second project and offered to combine shipping if you backed both), an updated today finally clarified why things keep going wrong:

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I did get some good news on one of mine, Earth. It's on track to be in hands by next month or early March.

It's a nice little game that sits squarely between Wingspan and Ark Nova in weight, with a similar vibe. It's an engine builder that feels a bit like Wingspan in terms of the tableau building and a bit like Ark Nova in the action selection mechanics. But still different enough from both that I felt it worth adding to my collection. I played it solo on TTS quite a bit and really enjoyed it.
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Looks like Masters of the Universe, Tanares Adventures, and Final Girl Series 2 are all coming in the next few months. I look forward to getting them!
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Ok Octopus Fam,

I noticed that there is still time to late order Isofarian Guard. What are people's thoughts here, particularly thinking about solo play? My main worry is that they seem to be having some shipping issues and that gives me some pause. Why should or shouldn't I look into this? Also, is this a different enough experience from ISS Vanguard?
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Isofarian Guard is possibly my most anticipated game, so clearly I'm biased. :wink:

They're not having shipping issues, it's been delayed (like everything else) and is now en route to distribution. I believe it will be shipped to backers in late February or March (if my spreadsheet is correct). The 'issue" is that it is now $100,000 more to ship the game than when they ran the original numbers, but they're not charging anyone extra to offset costs. Instead they started selling artwork on their website and I think have raised about half of that $100K by doing so. As a late backer you might end up paying more though; I'm not sure.

I think it's similar to ISS Vanguard in that they're both story-forward experiences. Mechanically they're quite difference as Vanguard is a dice chucker whereas Isofarian Guard is a bag-builder with Too Many Bones style (same manufacturer) poker chips.

Anyway, it's a giant sprawling RPG with crafting and leveling up and I think mechanically much deeper than ISS Vanguard. There are definitely some similarities in broad theme (exploration, campaign story, unique characters, etc...) but I think Isofarian Guard is deeper. Oddly enough I think both can be completed in ~50 hours, though I think those are just estimates.

So mechanically, yes different from ISS Vanguard. Broadly, definitely some overlap. I am more into fantasy theme so that probably also factors into it as well.
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Steve Jackson Games has finally launched their new edition of Wiz-War.



This new edition is a very barebones version. Cardboard standees, no art on the cards, etc. But it is only $30 so there's that. I got rid of my 8th edition FFG copy as my kids were too young but I've regretted it since. I was hoping a new edition would be a little nicer looking. They'd pitched the artwork by Phil Foglio but it seems it's just the art on the standees and box cover.
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baelthazar wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:04 pm Ok Octopus Fam,

I noticed that there is still time to late order Isofarian Guard. What are people's thoughts here, particularly thinking about solo play? My main worry is that they seem to be having some shipping issues and that gives me some pause. Why should or shouldn't I look into this? Also, is this a different enough experience from ISS Vanguard?
Is this via their webstore or somewhere else?
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Malificent wrote:
baelthazar wrote: Tue Jan 24, 2023 2:04 pm Ok Octopus Fam,

I noticed that there is still time to late order Isofarian Guard. What are people's thoughts here, particularly thinking about solo play? My main worry is that they seem to be having some shipping issues and that gives me some pause. Why should or shouldn't I look into this? Also, is this a different enough experience from ISS Vanguard?
Is this via their webstore or somewhere else?
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Just in case there is anyone interested here. Deep Shelf relaunched last week and it has blown past funding. Today is the last day to get the DinoGenics crossover promo pack for free.

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Congratulations! Apparently you have a knack for re-launching kickstarters. Any idea why it did so much better the second time around? The funding target was nearly identical.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to Deep Shelf. It looks like the kind of interactive Euro that I tend to prefer these days.
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I'm a backer for the Rallyman Dirt KS and things have taken an all-too-familiar turn. The distributor has allegedly had the game since the Fall of 2022 but according to the publisher was refusing to prioritize shipping because it was a relatively small project in comparison to others they were dealing with during a busy holiday season. Note here the original delivery was July of 2021 so part of this is pandemic related. Regardless, while the shipping priority in the Fall of 2022 might have been true, it's now February and there's been no change in status. Well, as it turns out the distributor is claiming the publisher owes them more money and is refusing to ship anything until they're made whole. All this is coming via the KS updates so we're only hearing one side but the impact is that worldwide shipping of the game has ceased completely after the distribution house had started sending copies out in December to EU locations. The publisher has also been saying the distributor was sending out wrong packages to EU backers - double orders, improperly packing (so there was lots of damage) - it really sounds like a nightmare as they present it.

The punchline? You can buy copies of the game on Amazon right now - cheaper than what backers paid, so that's great. I mean, there were some extras included that are KS exclusives but the idea that it's now in retail distribution somehow while the majority of backers (North America is like 60% of the people that funded it) is peak KS.

Not really sure how this gets resolved but I'm guessing it's not going to be shipped any time soon.
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Yeah I went a little nuts on KS last year but I'm a lot more hesitant now. Unless it's a rock solid publisher/fulfiller like Chip Theory or a game I'm extremely confident will never make it to retail, I'm out.
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AWS260 wrote: Mon Jan 30, 2023 8:48 pm Congratulations! Apparently you have a knack for re-launching kickstarters. Any idea why it did so much better the second time around? The funding target was nearly identical.

Anyway, I'm looking forward to Deep Shelf. It looks like the kind of interactive Euro that I tend to prefer these days.
Honestly, I think it was mostly just timing and a crowded market. I was competing with some very high profile titles when I launched last year and when presented with big projects from bigger publishers people chose that over a lesser known company. This time I purposefully chose a time that was far enough out from Christmas but also earlier than most of the other high profile titles. The first week is everything on Kickstarter and you really want to be funded in the first two days. People have a mental block against backing projects that are not yet funded even if it doesn't make sense. Last time there were about 1,500 following the campaign that I could see on the backend. If a fraction had backed at a basic level it would have been funded but they were all waiting for someone else to make the plunge first.
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Just a clarification I was focused on Smoove's post when replying about backing off of Kickstarters. Obviously I'm not throwing any shade against Lordnine's project. Present company excluded and all that. :D Bad post timing on my part. :doh:
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YellowKing wrote: Tue Jan 31, 2023 11:27 pm Just a clarification I was focused on Smoove's post when replying about backing off of Kickstarters. Obviously I'm not throwing any shade against Lordnine's project. Present company excluded and all that. :D Bad post timing on my part. :doh:
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Great job Lordnine! I am glad to see that your KS is off to a great start!

In other news, if you like Dwellings of Eldervale and you like Space 4x - they are making a sequel for Dwellings... IN SPACE!

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