All Things DeSantis

[malchior]

The terrifying thing is that it isn't impossible that the clueless masses will latch on to his narrative and put pressure on the rest of the GOP. It isn't terribly likely yet - he isn't Trump - but we've seen similar things happen because an extreme candidate took and absurd stance.

DeSantis is following on this - not leading. The base is already there if you are listening to them.

[LordMortis]

'Territorial dispute?"

He respects Russia's saying when it comes to attacking sovereign nations. "Let us Alone." He even wants to establish a Floridan Military unit for such occasions to protect Florida's territorial interests. It started with Disney. Following TFG's lead, he will extend this to Alabama.

The terrifying thing is that it isn't impossible that the clueless masses will latch on to his narrative and put pressure on the rest of the GOP. It isn't terribly likely yet - he isn't Trump - but we've seen similar things happen because an extreme candidate took and absurd stance.

DeSantis is following on this - not leading. The base is already there if you are listening to them.

They were already anti UN before TFG, during his rule, they became anti NATO, anti European Socialism, and pro Russia (forgiving and forgetting that whole authoritarian communist thing)

[Isgrimnur]

'Territorial dispute?"

I heard a brief mention of a few of those back in the first half of the 20th century.

[Isgrimnur]

He even wants to establish a Floridan Military unit for such occasions to protect Florida's territorial interests.

He already did that last year.

There are currently twenty-two active state defense forces.

Michigan Defense Force (MIDF) (est. 2004)

[Blackhawk]

He even wants to establish a Floridan Military unit for such occasions to protect Florida's territorial interests. It started with Disney.

Thus was the groundwork laid for the Battle of the Matterhorn*.


*I grew up in California, and have never been to Florida. I don't actually know if Disneyland Jr has a Matterhorn.

[Isgrimnur]

[Blackhawk]

Thus was the groundwork laid for the Second Battle of the Matterhorn.

[Octavious]

Oh look he took a liquor license away from a hotel for hosting a drag show. Whew glad he's around to deliver freedom!

[waitingtoconnect]

Remember it’s ok for trump and desantis to send in federal troops to the insurrectionist blue states in order to preserve freedom but state defence forces are necessary to protect the freedom states from being invaded by Biden and his army of drag queen satanists.

Also New Orleans used to be part of Florida. As part of historic Florida and now a hotbed of Nazism it must be liberated as soon as possible.

[Zarathud]

Oh look he took a liquor license away from a hotel for hosting a drag show. Whew glad he's around to deliver freedom!

Freedom for an all-ages drag show because they’re no longer serving liquor.

[Holman]

Let's not overlook that the library and classroom censorship drive is being spearheaded by a group called "Moms For Liberty."

Because of course state censorship is a central tenet of Liberty.

[hepcat]

Remember it’s ok for trump and desantis to send in federal troops to the insurrectionist blue states in order to preserve freedom but state defence forces are necessary to protect the freedom states from being invaded by Biden and his army of drag queen satanists.

They hit us with 50 megatons of FABULOUS

[LawBeefaroni]

'Territorial dispute?"

I heard a brief mention of a few of those back in the first half of the 20th century.

Yes, of course. Russia has a right to libensraum.

[GreenGoo]

Let's not overlook that the library and classroom censorship drive is being spearheaded by a group called "Moms For Liberty."

Because of course state censorship is a central tenet of Liberty.

What fun an entire state filled with Karens must be.

[waitingtoconnect]

The problem is those Karen’s can point to things like this https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64965277 which is equally insane.

San Francisco could become the first major US city to fund reparations, under a plan that would award $5m (£4m) to each eligible black resident.
A city-appointed panel also suggests guaranteed annual incomes of $97,000 for qualifying recipients and homes in San Francisco for $1 a family.

I’m all for equally but to give millions to individuals rather than create broad meaningful solutions makes these proposals incredibly disappointing.

The disparity in policy is completely at odds with reality and what people want. The issue for the democrats is they will be associated with things like this while de santis can say “it’s a matter for them” for his governments excesses and get away with it.

[The Meal]

would award $5m (£4m) to each eligible black resident.

Doubtful

[Smoove_B]

The amount of stuff he's just casually try to pass is is insane:

Senate Bill 1718, part of Desantis’s broad repressive legislative agenda this year, targets not just undocumented people but also anyone associated with them. The bill, which is likely to pass the Republican-controlled state legislature, criminalizes anyone who transports an undocumented person “into or within this state.” In other words, anyone—co-worker, friend, neighbor, classmate—giving a simple ride to someone they know or care about who is undocumented would be guilty of a third-degree felony.

The bill also criminalizes anyone who “conceals, harbors, or shields” (or “attempts” to do so) an undocumented person in “any place within this state.” Nearly 4 percent of Floridians are undocumented. The bill text, reading like an edict issued in Margaret Peterson Haddix’s Shadow Children series, foments fear about these hundreds of thousands of people. It isn’t hard to imagine law enforcement agencies conflating a house party or simple afternoon cup of tea with a secret migrant-harboring operation.

Under the framework, any person with a prior conviction who commits the “crime” of hosting an undocumented person would be liable to an even higher second-degree felony.

But that's not all:

If the bill is passed into law, Florida would also refuse to recognize any out-of-state licenses issued to undocumented people. Authorities would be directed to take DNA samples from undocumented people who are booked into jails or detention facilities per orders from the Immigration and Customs Enforcement.

Finally, the bill orders Medicaid-accepting hospitals to ask patients to indicate their citizenship status. Ostensibly meant as a cost-tracker for undocumented patient care, the bill reads that the question must be accompanied with an assurance that the patient’s response will not affect care or result in a report to immigration authorities. However, given the extremity of the rest of the bill, even with regard to criminalizing people who host undocumented people in “any place,” the assurance does not welcome complete trust.

[Zarathud]

Does this mean Florida can prosecute DeSantis for trafficking illegals into other states? Because that would be glorious payback.

[em2nought]

The new woke approved version of Zippity Doo Dah

https://www.tiktok.com/@tyrussmash/vide ... 5607249157

[Blackhawk]

Fire or acid. Nothing else will work.

[Alefroth]

I wonder if that applies to law enforcement. Or bus drivers.

[Kasey Chang]

DeSantis knows all of that is just political theater, but with the legislature in his pocket, and he'll just ignore them if they balk (like the redistricting), he can pass anything he wants so he's on Fox News all the time. Fox News is basically his presidential campaign organ now. Most of the stuff he passed will be challenged, but in the meanwhile he's the head of MAGA unless Trump runs again.

John Oliver just gave him a roast the other day:



In return, DeSantis called him "irrelevant".

[waitingtoconnect]

Look at how he’s gone after Disney- once he is president he can Modi and maybe even Putin his way through the mainstream news channels through “tax audits”, arresting people for treason, “investigating” family members, removing citizenship while overseas on holiday and other malfeasances.

And think how much fun he’ll have with the late night hosts. No wonder James Corden is going back to the Uk. Perhaps so he can be this guy.

[LordMortis]

DeSantis knows all of that is just political theater, but with the legislature in his pocket, and he'll just ignore them if they balk (like the redistricting), he can pass anything he wants so he's on Fox News all the time. Fox News is basically his presidential campaign organ now. Most of the stuff he passed will be challenged, but in the meanwhile he's the head of MAGA unless Trump runs again.

John Oliver just gave him a roast the other day:



In return, DeSantis called him "irrelevant".

There is so much DeSantis in that video I couldn't get through it.

[malchior]

Most of the stuff he passed will be challenged, but in the meanwhile he's the head of MAGA unless Trump runs again.

News flash - Trump *is* running again. Trump is head of MAGA. DeSantis is chasing Trump and every one of these moves is a desperate attempt to take over MAGA with Fox's help. DeSantis is mostly hoping for Trump to 1) drop dead and/or 2) get indicted. He probably hopes more for the former because that actually gets Trump out of the race.

[El Guapo]

DeSantis knows all of that is just political theater, but with the legislature in his pocket, and he'll just ignore them if they balk (like the redistricting), he can pass anything he wants so he's on Fox News all the time. Fox News is basically his presidential campaign organ now. Most of the stuff he passed will be challenged, but in the meanwhile he's the head of MAGA unless Trump runs again.

uhh, Trump is running again. He announced late last year.

It is true that DeSantis's main assets at this point is the tight GOP control of Florida combined with very DeSantis-friendly people in the conservative media. But I still don't totally understand how he's going to run as Trump Lite against Trump himself.

[LordMortis]

uhh, Trump is running again. He announced late last year.

It is true that DeSantis's main assets at this point is the tight GOP control of Florida combined with very DeSantis-friendly people in the conservative media. But I still don't totally understand how he's going to run as Trump Lite against Trump himself.

Because run of the mill uninformed and informed very business conservatives want Trump without having to acknowledge they want Trump. Desantis is that guy. There is still an attempt at pretense, shame, or saving face with that crowd. I don't think that crowd is bigger than the MAGA crowd, but it's big enough.

[LawBeefaroni]

The problem is those Karen’s can point to things like this https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64965277 which is equally insane.

San Francisco could become the first major US city to fund reparations, under a plan that would award $5m (£4m) to each eligible black resident.
A city-appointed panel also suggests guaranteed annual incomes of $97,000 for qualifying recipients and homes in San Francisco for $1 a family.

I’m all for equally but to give millions to individuals rather than create broad meaningful solutions makes these proposals incredibly disappointing.

The disparity in policy is completely at odds with reality and what people want. The issue for the democrats is they will be associated with things like this while de santis can say “it’s a matter for them” for his governments excesses and get away with it.

Evanston Illinois has restorative housing "reparations" that targets known issues.

The first reparations initiative developed by the City of Evanston is the Restorative Housing Program. The Program acknowledges the harm caused to African-American/Black Evanston residents due to discriminatory housing policies and practices and inaction on the part of the City from 1919-1969. The goal of the Program is to:

Revitalize, preserve and stabilize Black/African-American owner-occupied homes in Evanston

Increase homeownership and build the wealth of Black/African-American residents;

Build intergenerational equity amongst Black/African-American residents

Improve the retention rate of Black/African-American homeowners in the City of Evanston

Even then it's not without problems.

Eleanor Swope, who would have been 85 this February, died Nov. 1, 2022, of a heart attack. She’s the seventh ancestor applicant who has died before their selection number for Evanston’s restorative housing reparations grant was called.

...

The committee voted March 2 to give cash payments, for the first time, to the final two ancestors selected among the first 16 recipients, because they aren’t homeowners, don’t plan to purchase a home and lack direct descendants to whom they could pass on the grants. The city doesn’t have a date for when those two ancestors will receive their grants.

Because Swope’s number was never called, her family isn’t entitled to her reparations grant, and the survivors of the other six deceased ancestors are in the same situation, said city Corporation Counsel Nicholas Cummings.

[Kasey Chang]

Kal Penn decided to revisit his time on House MD to combat the "woke mind virus"

[waitingtoconnect]

The problem is those Karen’s can point to things like this https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-64965277 which is equally insane.

San Francisco could become the first major US city to fund reparations, under a plan that would award $5m (£4m) to each eligible black resident.
A city-appointed panel also suggests guaranteed annual incomes of $97,000 for qualifying recipients and homes in San Francisco for $1 a family.

I’m all for equally but to give millions to individuals rather than create broad meaningful solutions makes these proposals incredibly disappointing.

The disparity in policy is completely at odds with reality and what people want. The issue for the democrats is they will be associated with things like this while de santis can say “it’s a matter for them” for his governments excesses and get away with it.

Evanston Illinois has restorative housing "reparations" that targets known issues.

The first reparations initiative developed by the City of Evanston is the Restorative Housing Program. The Program acknowledges the harm caused to African-American/Black Evanston residents due to discriminatory housing policies and practices and inaction on the part of the City from 1919-1969. The goal of the Program is to:

Revitalize, preserve and stabilize Black/African-American owner-occupied homes in Evanston

Increase homeownership and build the wealth of Black/African-American residents;

Build intergenerational equity amongst Black/African-American residents

Improve the retention rate of Black/African-American homeowners in the City of Evanston

Even then it's not without problems.

Eleanor Swope, who would have been 85 this February, died Nov. 1, 2022, of a heart attack. She’s the seventh ancestor applicant who has died before their selection number for Evanston’s restorative housing reparations grant was called.

...

The committee voted March 2 to give cash payments, for the first time, to the final two ancestors selected among the first 16 recipients, because they aren’t homeowners, don’t plan to purchase a home and lack direct descendants to whom they could pass on the grants. The city doesn’t have a date for when those two ancestors will receive their grants.

Because Swope’s number was never called, her family isn’t entitled to her reparations grant, and the survivors of the other six deceased ancestors are in the same situation, said city Corporation Counsel Nicholas Cummings.

Restoring people who were wronged by the city is appropriate as those actions were illegal or immoral but the San Fransisco proposal isn’t well thought out in my opinion and isn’t presented well at all. Nor will it give equality - it’s just virtue signalling not tackling racism at its core. It’s just fodder for the far right.

The left needs to create a new deal type arrangement that lifts up every one and draws a line under the past by opening up opportunities for a future (or a security if in old age) to people who have been dealt with unjustly. It won’t be perfect but it’s the only way to beat trump and de santis.

[Smoove_B]

Meanwhile, cartoon villains are shaking their heads:

As Florida Republicans are introducing and advancing a wave of bills on gender and diversity that are likely to be signed into law by Gov. Ron DeSantis (R), one GOP lawmaker acknowledged this week that his proposed sexual health bill would ban girls from talking about their menstrual cycles in school.

...

“So if little girls experience their menstrual cycle in fifth grade or fourth grade, will that prohibit conversations from them since they are in the grade lower than sixth grade?” [State Rep] Gantt asked.

[State Rep] McClain responded, “It would.”

Of note:

The GOP lawmaker representing Ocala, Fla., later clarified that it “would not be the intent” of the bill to punish girls if they came to teachers with questions or concerns about their menstrual cycle, adding that he’d be “amenable” to amendments if they were to come up. The bill ended up passing, 13-5, on Wednesday in a party-line vote, as GOP legislators make up a supermajority in the chamber.

...

Restricting girls from talking about their periods in school is not the only item in McClain’s bill, which was introduced last month. The bill calls for schools to teach how “sex is determined by biology and reproductive function at birth” and “these reproductive roles are binary, stable, and unchangeable.” Part of the proposed legislation would require that the Florida Education Department approve all education materials used in sexual health. It would also give parents the right to limit the kinds of library books their children can check out.

[Isgrimnur]

Good luck getting that past the (sane) courts.

[Smoove_B]

I wish I had the same faith in our larger institutions.

[Zaxxon]

[malchior]

I mean maybe the rubes won't see through that but COME ON. He's awful.

[LordMortis]

Is the from DeSantis or Dr Oz?

[Hyena]

So wait...is he telling us he was raised in the south but identifies as midwesterner? Should we just respect that and move on? Or should we tell him that being raised in the south makes you a southerner. I mean, that's just plain science, right? Geography don't lie!

[LawBeefaroni]

He has the Florida vote locked up. He's reaching out to the Midwest.

As an actual Midwesterner, fuck that transparent patronizing bullshit.

One thing that is interesting, before his book deal his net worth was estimated at under $500K (with $20K in student loan debt, has he weighed in on that topic?). He'll almost certainly come out of this at least 5 to 10 times richer.

[Unagi]

So he was born a southerner, but self identifies as a midwesterner?

Thinks he can just take off that Bible Belt and start wearing a Rust Belt and everyone should just accept that?

[Blackhawk]

As an actual Midwesterner, fuck that transparent patronizing bullshit.

Says a guy living in a bastion of blue!

As a captive Midwesterner living between the cornfield and a cow with 'Trump 2020' tattoos, fuck that transparent patronizing bullshit.