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Theres another meme with a 3rd pic that says Russia now has the 2nd largest military in Russia.

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I like the sentiment, but the soldier pics ruined it.
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Cornered in Ukraine and isolated by the West, the Kremlin returns to Cuba
Dozens of Russian officials have travelled to Cuba in recent months — and some former Cuban government insiders are warning that Russia might plan to again use the island as a forward base on the United States' doorstep.

This week, Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel went on the Spanish-language version of Russia Today to insist on Cuba's "unconditional" support for Russia.

"We condemn and we don't accept the expansion of NATO to the borders of Russia," he said.

Last week, for the first time ever, Cubans appeared alongside Russians fighting in Ukraine, both in the Russian Army and in the Wagner Group.

Russia says they joined as volunteers and are not part of the Cuban army.

But it was Cuba's regular armed forces that signed a deal this month to train troops in Belarus, a close ally of Moscow heavily involved in the Ukraine war.

Vladimir Rouvinski, a Russian expert on his country's relations with Latin America at the Instituto Colombiano de Estudios Superiores de Incolda in Cali, Colombia, said the Kremlin sees Cuba as America's "near abroad."

"Russians are interested in expanding the relation with Cuba from the logic of reciprocity, in order to say to the United States, 'We're here again, and we may make some troubles for you, so pay attention to us,'" he said.
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So Cuba wishes to continue to be stupid nothings.
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As always, Ukraine's propaganda is the best propaganda.

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I didn't know the Ukrainians had Indians in their army.
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Max Peck wrote: Sat Jun 03, 2023 12:46 pm Cornered in Ukraine and isolated by the West, the Kremlin returns to Cuba
Dozens of Russian officials have travelled to Cuba in recent months — and some former Cuban government insiders are warning that Russia might plan to again use the island as a forward base on the United States' doorstep.

This week, Cuban President Miguel Diaz-Canel went on the Spanish-language version of Russia Today to insist on Cuba's "unconditional" support for Russia.

"We condemn and we don't accept the expansion of NATO to the borders of Russia," he said.

Last week, for the first time ever, Cubans appeared alongside Russians fighting in Ukraine, both in the Russian Army and in the Wagner Group.

Russia says they joined as volunteers and are not part of the Cuban army.

But it was Cuba's regular armed forces that signed a deal this month to train troops in Belarus, a close ally of Moscow heavily involved in the Ukraine war.

Vladimir Rouvinski, a Russian expert on his country's relations with Latin America at the Instituto Colombiano de Estudios Superiores de Incolda in Cali, Colombia, said the Kremlin sees Cuba as America's "near abroad."

"Russians are interested in expanding the relation with Cuba from the logic of reciprocity, in order to say to the United States, 'We're here again, and we may make some troubles for you, so pay attention to us,'" he said.
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If you haven't been paying attention today, the Russians claimed they stopped a major attack and...the chattering classes and especially the click bait media are amplifying what very well could be a Russian propaganda campaign.

I just watched an interview of BBC pundits talking about how it would be very demoralizing to see a major loss at the outset of the campaign. The Ukrainians have been tight lipped about casualties so they won't confirm it. Duh. Meanwhile, the Russians have presented NO EVIDENCE that ANYTHING happened. They are also you know...murderers and liars. Modernity is the pits

Edit: That being said, there has been acknowledgement by Zelensky in the last 30 minutes where he congratulated some units for unspecified victories and seemed to acknowledge the counter-offensive operation has kicked off to some extent.
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Russia successfully defended against a Ukrainian offensive, while they were invading Ukraine.

How is that Russian propaganda?

I realize it could be a counter offensive, but when you're invading, it's usually you who are doing the offending. Particularly when invading a soft target like Ukraine. :lol:
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I'm seeing reports that someone blew the Nova Kakhovka hydroelectric dam, on the Dnipro River about 60 km above Kherson. Apparently the Russians are claiming that Ukraine did it (which probably means the Russians did it). IIRC, there was concern a while back that Russia might destroy the dam in order to cause flooding to prevent Ukraine from crossing the river.

A multi-hundred foot chunk of the Nova Kakhovka dam is gone, the Kakhovka Reservoir is quickly emptying out into the Dnipro.
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Most of the land on the south bank of the river will be flooded. Between that and the upper reservoir turning into a mud flat, it basically ends any threat of a Ukrainian amphibious assault across the Dnipro.
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This was known to be a possibility and it brings with it huge problems for the Russians. The dam complex provides most of the water for the cities in Crimea. Someone might have messed up or it might be a signal they are that desperate to slow down the Ukrainians. In any case, the Russians had closed the flood gates and raised the water level in the reservoir to high levels (likely to maximize the flooding potential). Add it to the list of their war crimes.
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Deepfake of Putin ordering martial law and a general mobilization aired on tv and radio in Russian border regions nearest Ukraine. This was likely the result of a hack on media networks in those areas.
A deep fake video depicting Russian President Vladimir Putin declaring martial law and warning that he would order a general mobilization briefly dominated televisions and radios in some of the country’s border cities Monday.

The broadcast, which also claimed there was an ongoing Ukrainian incursion into Russia, was aired in Belgorod, Voronezh, and Rostov, cities in close proximity to Ukraine’s border.
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Now I don't know who to disbelieve...

Wagner boss rubbishes Russian claims of Ukrainian casualties
A fresh row has broken out between the Wagner Group and the Russian military, as long-simmering tension between the groups threatens to spill over.

Wagner boss Yevgeny Prigozhin dismissed Russia's claims to have inflicted heavy losses on Ukraine in the Donbas when Kyiv attempted offensive action.

Prigozhin said the claims were "simply wild and absurd science fiction".

But Russia's defence ministry doubled down on the claims on Tuesday, saying Ukraine suffered over 3,700 casualties.

Russia said the attack was part of a Ukrainian "long-promised offensive" in the Donetsk region, which took place over Sunday and Monday.

Ukraine's military said on Monday that it had no information about a major attack in the region, and that it wouldn't comment on claims it called "fake".

Speaking to state media, Russian Defence Minister Sergei Shoigu insisted that his forces had inflicted over 3,715 casualties on Ukraine during the attack and destroyed dozens of pieces of military equipment.

"The attempts at an offensive have failed. The enemy has been halted. Russian soldiers and officers displayed courage and heroism in the battles," Mr Shoigu said, adding that 71 Russian troops died in the fighting.
Although, if Shoigu is claiming to have inflicted over 3715 casualties at a cost of just 71 Russian lives (which are weirdly specific numbers), I'm going to have to lean toward disbelieving him the most.
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They're putting a serious hurt on farm equipment.

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Having a really hard time finding much credible news about what's actually going on with Ukraine's counteroffensive. Fog of war and all, I guess.
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Hopefully that just means that Ukrainian OPSEC is working as intended for now.

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Ukrainian attacks continue in key southern Zaporizhzhia region
Ukrainian attacks in the key southern Zaporizhzhia region are continuing, Russian officials and military bloggers say, reporting heavy fighting there.

They say Ukrainian troops - backed by tanks, artillery and drones - are trying to advance south of the town of Orikhiv for the second night running.

A senior Ukrainian defence official said the enemy was in "active defence".

Several military experts have said the focus of Ukraine's long awaited counter-offensive will be Zaporizhzhia.

They argue Kyiv is trying to regain access to the Sea of Azov, splitting the occupying Russian forces in the region into two detached groupings.

That would not only weaken their combat capabilities, but also carve out a land bridge to Crimea - Ukraine's southern peninsula illegally annexed by Russia in 2014.

Earlier on Thursday, the US-based Institute for the Study of War (ISW) said Ukraine's counter-offensive had begun - although Kyiv remains tight-lipped on the issue.

Meanwhile, the UK defence ministry said that "amidst a highly complex operational picture, heavy fighting continues along multiple sectors of the front".

It added that "in most areas Ukraine holds the initiative".

Russia seized most of the Zaporizhzhia region - including Europe's largest nuclear power plant - soon after President Vladimir Putin ordered a full-scale invasion in February 2022.

The regional capital, the city of Zaporizhzhia, is controlled by Ukraine.
If this is correct and the Ukraine offensive is kicking off from the area of Orikhiv, then it looks like they will need to push south about 105 km to reach the coast and cut the land supply lines to any Russian forces to the west of Melitopol, as well as Crimea.

A couple of weeks ago, the BBC ran an article that includes some information on the Russian defenses that they'd need to penetrate on this axis of advance.

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There are rumors that the UFA has pushed their line forward towards Tokmak and Ukrainian partisans blew several major railway bridges that supply the south from Mariupol through Crimea. The plan seems to be cutting the logistical supply behind enemy lines with asymmetric warfare while carefully probing forward. Additionally, UFA seems to be committing artillery to hitting Tokmak and Melitopol and apparently they haven't committed any of their heavy brigades yet. They are potentially still probing for weak positions before loosing the heavy stuff.

In addition, there is widespread in-fighting on the eastern front between Wagner and the Russian MOD.

BBC is reporting that the MOD is pushing to take over Wagner by offering military service contracts directly to Wagner fighters. Prigozhin is saying his fighters will boycott the contracts. It is described as in-fighting between Prigozhin and Shoigu/Gerasimov but this is ultimately really a battle between Putin/Prigozhin with the military leadership as proxies.
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Unfortunately the Russians can read maps as well as anyone else, so they have that area heavily fortified. It isn't likely to be quick or easy, but hopefully the Russians will break at some point. Even with the advantage of fighting defensively from prepared positions, they simply don't have the will and motivation that Ukrainian troops had while bleeding the Russians white in Bakhmut.
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This thing is the weirdest war I've ever read about. And I love military history. :angry-cussingargument:
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Does it seem like there's very little air power on either side? Maybe because the Russian's can't establish superiority and the Ukrainians don't have much of an air force? It just seems like air power seldom gets mentioned.
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It's morphed to drones. Cheaper and safer and probably more effective.
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Kraken wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:02 pm Does it seem like there's very little air power on either side? Maybe because the Russian's can't establish superiority and the Ukrainians don't have much of an air force? It just seems like air power seldom gets mentioned.
Ground-based anti-air is pretty effective now days. Drones are picking up some of the roles but mostly no-one wants to expose their aircraft to surface-to-air defenses.
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Max Peck wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 12:28 pm Even with the advantage of fighting defensively from prepared positions, they simply don't have the will and motivation that Ukrainian troops had while bleeding the Russians white in Bakhmut.
Not to mention the materiel.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:30 pm
Kraken wrote: Mon Jun 12, 2023 3:02 pm Does it seem like there's very little air power on either side? Maybe because the Russian's can't establish superiority and the Ukrainians don't have much of an air force? It just seems like air power seldom gets mentioned.
Ground-based anti-air is pretty effective now days. Drones are picking up some of the roles but mostly no-one wants to expose their aircraft to surface-to-air defenses.
IIRC Russian doctrine is multi-role bomber/fighters with helicopter escorts to rescue pilots in case of shootdown. They lost an entire element in March - 1 SU-34/1 SU-35 and 2 helicopters. Ukraine never explained how it happened. The chatter at the time was that the UFA probably snuck a Patriot battery close to the Russian border.

The Ukrainians also famously attacked a Crimean airbase and destroyed several aircraft on the ground last summer. The Russians then relocated the whole air wing off Crimea.

Essentially the Ukrainians made up for their lack of planes by denying the enemy control of the airspace in non-traditional ways - which is the theme of this war.
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I read recently where Russia has moved a large amount of fleet assets away from Crimea in the Black Sea. It really looks like Russia is going to lose a lot of ground in this war if they dont stop it soon. This whole thing has backfired on them. They really need to remove Putin and the old guard and get freedom in there and join the world in peace. Stop the old time madness.The elderly shouldn't lead there.
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First Russian General killed in 2023 in attack on command post.
UK Defence Intelligence has reported that Russian Major General Sergey Goryachev was almost undoubtedly killed in an attack on a command post on or about 12 June in southern Ukraine.

Source: Defence Intelligence review from the UK Ministry of Defence, published on 16 June on Twitter, as reported by European Pravda

Details: According to UK Defence Intelligence, Goryachev served as the chief of staff of the 35th Combined Arms Army of the Russian Armed Forces.

Quote: "With 35 Combined Arms Army’s nominated commander, General-Lieutenant Alexandr Sanchik, reported to be filling a gap in a higher HQ, there is a realistic possibility that Goryachev was the acting army commander at the time of his death," the report said.
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Wow. That sounds like it could be a big blow.
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If he was the sort of commander that does this sort of thing, his loss might improve morale amongst the troops.

Russian soldiers really did stand still for 2 hours for their commander's speech, leaving them sitting ducks for a HIMARS strike, Ukrainian official says
A Ukrainian official confirmed reports that originated from a Russian milblogger that soldiers stood still for two hours for a commander's speech, leaving them sitting ducks for Ukraine's high mobility artillery rocket system, or HIMARS.

The unnamed official told the Kyiv Post: "It's a really funny situation there. They stood in the open air for two hours listening to the speech."

"That is enough time to fix them, transport the HIMARS, enter the coordinates and hit them," the official said

The official's comments confirm details of the attack outlined by the pro-war military blogger Rybar, who said that soldiers in a Russian division stood in one place for two hours.

He said they were waiting for their commander to give a motivational speech. Rybar said the attack, which he said involved HIMARS and Ukraine's artillery, happened in the city of Kreminna, in Luhansk.
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Thank you for the info guys. Appreciate the insight. Keep that fog O-war on thick!
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Unagi wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:53 am Wow. That sounds like it could be a big blow.
Keep ‘em coming.
If I remember, they were losing multiple major generals a day week towards the beginning of the conflict.
IIRC it is equivalent to a rank above a US colonel. Our Brigadier General? It's not nothing but it's not a huge blow
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From what I've read, this guy may have been killed in a strike on a command post by one of the Storm Shadow cruise missiles that the UK provided to Ukraine. If true, that implies that he may have been well back from the front lines rather than leading from the front, which was generally how all those senior officers were killed last year.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 10:14 pm
Unagi wrote: Sat Jun 17, 2023 7:53 am Wow. That sounds like it could be a big blow.
Keep ‘em coming.
If I remember, they were losing multiple major generals a day week towards the beginning of the conflict.
IIRC it is equivalent to a rank above a US colonel. Our Brigadier General? It's not nothing but it's not a huge blow
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I’m not going off the rank so much as that he may have been ‘the acting army commander’, which I take to mean ‘the very top’
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According to this report, he was Chief of Staff of the Russian 35th Combined Arms Army, and a number of staff officers were killed with him.

Moscow claims top general was killed in Ukraine by a British-supplied long-range missile in strike that killed several senior officers
A top Russian general killed fighting Ukraine was hit by a long range British-supplied Storm Shadow missile, said Moscow war sources.

Major-General Sergey Goryachev, 52, died in a strike in Zaporizhzhia region, according to multiple reports.

He was Chief of Staff of the Russian 35th Combined Arms Army, and is one of suspected 11 generals reported to have died in the war - the first this year.

He appears to have perished with other senior officers.
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In the context of the 2022 Russian invasion of Ukraine, elements of the 35th Army (including units from the 38th Motor Rifle Brigade, 64th Motor Rifle Brigade, 69th Fortress Brigade, 165th Artillery Brigade and 107th Rocket Brigade) had been deployed to Belarus and were participating in active combat operations.

In June 2022, Russian military bloggers reported that the 35CAA was routed in the battle of Izyum and that the remnants of the army withdrew to Belgorod, claiming that the number of infantry in the brigades of the army had fallen to "12-15 people (64th brigade), the combined number of 38th and 64th motorised brigades – less than 100 of truly combat-ready infantry in each brigade." On 4 June 2022 Ukrainian sources claimed that Ukrainian forces had almost completely annihilated the 35CAA.

In August 2022 the remnants of the 35CAA were reportedly sent to defend the occupied territory of Kherson Oblast on the West Bank of the Dnieper river, alongside the 49th Combined Arms Army.
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Bloggers and pundits are the source right now and they don't even agree on the location.
Another hello from the British and French,' he posted.

'He did not die alone. There is no information in Russian sources, so most likely we will see details from obituaries.

Popular Russian war blogger with 1.1 million followers Anatoliy Shariy said that Goryachev was hit by a UK supplied Anglo-French Storm Shadow missile.

'[But] along with him, at least eight staff officers died, [and] several were wounded.'

He said Gorbachev died on the Vremievsky Ledge in Zaproizhzhia region.

A Ukrainian expert Mikhail Zhirokhov told Nastoyashchee Vremya that the general died in a different strike in another region, Kherson, on a military HQ in occupied Ukraine on Saturday.

He claimed it was a major blow to Russia.
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Yeah, I needed sleep more than I needed better sources. :lol:

It didn't click with me last night that the headline says "Moscow" -- implying government sources -- but the text of the article cites a blogger. And way, way down at the end of the article...
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What a weird coincidence that a Russian anti-war activist died in prison, just days before he was due to be released. What are the odds?

Russian anti-war activist dies in jail after alleging mistreatment, lawyer says
A Russian anti-war activist has died in a detention centre in the southern city of Rostov-on-Don where he had alleged he was being mistreated, his lawyer said.

Irina Gak, a lawyer for 40-year-old Anatoly Berezikov, said in a video posted on Facebook that the dead body of her client, who had been due to be released on Thursday, had been taken to a morgue on Wednesday.

The video, which was filmed on Wednesday, showed Gak standing outside the detention centre where Berezikov had been held as an ambulance that she said was there to collect his body drove in. Reuters could not independently verify her account.

Gak could not be immediately reached by phone. The detention centre told Reuters that it would not be giving out any information about Berezikov.

In the video, Gak said Berezikov had complained of beatings and of being given electric shocks and had told her he feared for his life.

OVD-Info, a human rights monitoring group, cited an unnamed official in the detention centre as telling it that Berezikov had killed himself in his cell.
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