(TV) Fargo
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I love this season, but I rank it below season 2. Maybe even season 4, depending on how it ends. That doesn’t mean it’s not fantastic. Just that this show is full of fantastic.
As for Foley, I can understand your point. But this last episode had him finally break out from under mama Lyon and gave us a glimpse of who he really is.
As for Foley, I can understand your point. But this last episode had him finally break out from under mama Lyon and gave us a glimpse of who he really is.
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And how did that work out for him?
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And how did that work out for him?
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At first I didn't like Ole Munch. He struck me as too similar to Peter Stormare's character in the movie initially. Then I thought he was being made out to be way too powerful and borderline supernatural. But I've grown to really like his character, and especially the actor's performance in that role. His...economy...in playing that character is just perfection itself. There's a preternatural stillness to his performance that is really off putting and disturbing. I would love to see that actor in some other things in the future. Honestly, a series about Ole Munch's life (or lives) would be welcomed. I could listen to his third person, sentence long statements for 60 minutes each week. "A rabbit screams because it is caught".
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I agree with all of this.hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 11, 2024 2:28 pm At first I didn't like Ole Munch. He struck me as too similar to Peter Stormare's character in the movie initially. Then I thought he was being made out to be way too powerful and borderline supernatural. But I've grown to really like his character, and especially the actor's performance in that role. His...economy...in playing that character is just perfection itself. There's a preternatural stillness to his performance that is really off putting and disturbing. I would love to see that actor in some other things in the future. Honestly, a series about Ole Munch's life (or lives) would be welcomed. I could listen to his third person, sentence long statements for 60 minutes each week. "A rabbit screams because it is caught".
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The audience for Fargo is probably overwhelmingly left of the dial, so it just feels like pandering. I like it when Hawley challenges his audience, not when he spoon feeds them easily written platitudes.
Of course, my distaste for it might also be because I've been living in that reality for the last few years and can't escape it.
Of course, my distaste for it might also be because I've been living in that reality for the last few years and can't escape it.
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Season finale! Mama Lyon certainly finished in character. Also, interesting how the running theme is the power of debt.
Hepcat might get his Ole Munch spinoff series based upon the last 20 minutes of the episode.
Hepcat might get his Ole Munch spinoff series based upon the last 20 minutes of the episode.
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Going to watch tonight! I look forward to seeing how it all wraps up.
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Oh no. I hate to read that. I REALLY looked forward to Wednesday's just based on this show's new ep.
That it's already ending makes me very sad, but hopeful for more seasons in the future. I hope it did well, wrt eyeballs, but that is not so much the determining factor these days as it used to be.
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Sadly, it's normally a matter of 2 to 3 years between seasons..if it continues, that is.
However, we do have Hawley's Alien show coming up next year (I believe)!
However, we do have Hawley's Alien show coming up next year (I believe)!
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Just watched the penultimate episode an hour ago. Looking forward to polishing it off tomorrow night. This season was pretty great, but not as great as the one with Kirsten Dunst and Jesse Plemons IMO. Maybe the finale will change my mind.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Jan 17, 2024 6:36 pmOh no. I hate to read that. I REALLY looked forward to Wednesday's just based on this show's new ep.
That it's already ending makes me very sad, but hopeful for more seasons in the future. I hope it did well, wrt eyeballs, but that is not so much the determining factor these days as it used to be.
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Season 2 of Fargo is also my favorite still. It just hit on so many levels.
This latest was fantastic, but I would still rate it behind season 2 and maybe season 4.
Watched the finale yesterday and loved it.
This latest was fantastic, but I would still rate it behind season 2 and maybe season 4.
Watched the finale yesterday and loved it.
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It may be the recency effect, but this might have been my favorite season of all after watching that final ep, with my mouth almost literally hanging open at the end.
If you had told me how it would end while I was watching mid-season, I probably would have been incredulous, and pissed at the silly ass premise. The fact that the Coens could pull that shit off amazes me, though I guess I shouldn't be...they've done it many times before.
But to pull off what has to look absurd on paper, in that way, and to generate those crazy and mixed emotions...wow. I mean, that is at the heart of the art of this medium as far as I'm concerned. To be able to completely wow an especially cynical viewer...incredible.
I've tried to get my wife to watch these, and I told her to just start with Season 1, but she bounced off it for some reason (I personally thought it was great!). It sounds like you guys would mostly vote for Season 2 as the best? Maybe I'll try to get her hooked on the series with that one instead.
I'm going to have to let that episode sit with me for a few days as I ponder its greatness, and hierarchy within all the seasons to date.
One question though:
Re: Joe Keery, until you just mentioned it, I have been thinking it was Ralph from Parks and Rec this whole time! (link below is safe, click it for your mind to be blown. )
https://www.instagram.com/p/BKl3QMIBNSy ... atch_again
If you had told me how it would end while I was watching mid-season
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But to pull off what has to look absurd on paper, in that way, and to generate those crazy and mixed emotions...wow. I mean, that is at the heart of the art of this medium as far as I'm concerned. To be able to completely wow an especially cynical viewer...incredible.
I've tried to get my wife to watch these, and I told her to just start with Season 1, but she bounced off it for some reason (I personally thought it was great!). It sounds like you guys would mostly vote for Season 2 as the best? Maybe I'll try to get her hooked on the series with that one instead.
I'm going to have to let that episode sit with me for a few days as I ponder its greatness, and hierarchy within all the seasons to date.
One question though:
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https://www.instagram.com/p/BKl3QMIBNSy ... atch_again
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The only thing the Coen's provided for any of the Fargo seasons is the name. It's all Noah Hawley.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:05 am The fact that the Coens could pull that shit off amazes me, though I guess I shouldn't be...they've done it many times before.
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hepcat wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 12:28 pmThe only thing the Coen's provided for any of the Fargo seasons is the name. It's all Noah Hawley.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 11:05 am The fact that the Coens could pull that shit off amazes me, though I guess I shouldn't be...they've done it many times before.
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I loved that finale so much particularly the conclusion to Moonch's story
https://i.imgur.com/2ZtRSkl.mp4
The bottle tap.
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The bottle tap.
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The way the bottle slides in from the side of the screen and then Munch just glancing at it in a clueless manner is comedy...freakin'....gold.
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I liked the finale better than I expected to.
All Fargo seasons and movies ranked by tomatometer
This ranking doesn't include S5, but according to Rotten Tomatoes it goes (from lowest to highest:) S4, S3, movie, S1, S2. In fact, S2 scored 100%. A couple of other website ratings that I looked at put S5 right in the middle; I concur. It was good Fargo but not the best Fargo.
Really hope that they keep making new seasons without too much time elapsing between them.
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This ranking doesn't include S5, but according to Rotten Tomatoes it goes (from lowest to highest:) S4, S3, movie, S1, S2. In fact, S2 scored 100%. A couple of other website ratings that I looked at put S5 right in the middle; I concur. It was good Fargo but not the best Fargo.
Really hope that they keep making new seasons without too much time elapsing between them.
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It's probably going to be awhile - Fargo is a Noah Hawley gig and he's got another project occupying his time.
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Ooooo, that could be even better than Fargo. Never mind.Exodor wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 12:48 amIt's probably going to be awhile - Fargo is a Noah Hawley gig and he's got another project occupying his time.
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I know season 4 is often considered the weakest, but that season also had the episode East/West which I consider one of the finest hours of television ever filmed.Kraken wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:59 pm
This ranking doesn't include S5, but according to Rotten Tomatoes it goes (from lowest to highest:) S4, S3, movie, S1, S2. In fact, S2 scored 100%. A couple of other website ratings that I looked at put S5 right in the middle; I concur. It was good Fargo but not the best Fargo.
Really hope that they keep making new seasons without too much time elapsing between them.
But at the end of the day, the weakest season of Fargo is still better then the strongest of almost any show.
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Wow, that's interesting. I personally would have the movie at the bottom (as in, I prefer every TV season to the movie). Thought the movie was great, but it's hard to top an entire season of development with just 2 hours or whatever it was.Kraken wrote: ↑Thu Jan 18, 2024 10:59 pm I liked the finale better than I expected to.
All Fargo seasons and movies ranked by tomatometerSpoiler:
This ranking doesn't include S5, but according to Rotten Tomatoes it goes (from lowest to highest:) S4, S3, movie, S1, S2. In fact, S2 scored 100%. A couple of other website ratings that I looked at put S5 right in the middle; I concur. It was good Fargo but not the best Fargo.
Really hope that they keep making new seasons without too much time elapsing between them.
And yeah, the soda pop scene was one of my jaw drop moments. After picking jaw up, I literally LOL'd obnoxiously, according to two family members I awoke.
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I think the movie is a masterpiece, so I probably would have placed it a bit higher. But then again, I'm a complete Coen brothers fanboy, so I'm biased.
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We need a thread for people’s top ten Coen Bros movies. I would be surprised if I haven’t seen them all.
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The Man Who Wasn't There is near the top of my list. I'd have to see it again before giving it #1. But as they've "only" made 19 movies, picking a top 10 is easy.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Fri Jan 19, 2024 11:47 pmWe need a thread for people’s top ten Coen Bros movies. I would be surprised if I haven’t seen them all.
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I checked the rankings on Rottentomatoes and I was surprised to see True Grit at the top of the list for Coen films. But then I thought about it a bit more. It really IS a very good film. Blood Simple is number 2, and I expected THAT to be number 1.
The other surprise was Miller's Crossing at 7. I would definitely have thought that would be higher up.
Reviewing the list DID remind me I've yet to see their version of Macbeth. That's something I need to rectify soon.
The other surprise was Miller's Crossing at 7. I would definitely have thought that would be higher up.
Reviewing the list DID remind me I've yet to see their version of Macbeth. That's something I need to rectify soon.
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