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Like that wasn't completely obvious?!Ralph-Wiggum wrote:Damn it - I knew I was right at the beginning. Yankeeman couldn't resist killing a Red Sox fan.
Why, oh why, did you protect YM, tgb? If not for that we might both still be alive....
Really, as soon as I died my guess was YM. I still am not sure who the other wolf is though.
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My guess is the other wolf was kelric, as Yankeeman was unable to keep from killing him just on principle despite being on the same side!!!!
"Where are you off to?"
"I don't know," Snufkin replied.
The door shut again and Snufkin entered his forest, with a hundred miles of silence ahead of him.
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IT IS DAY
A kind of victory had been achieved, but with that came certain knowledge also that the horror was not yet over.
Octopus-Over-Lordington awoke - but this time there was no mystery over who had died that night.
The head of Suitably Ironic Moniker, mouth agape in terror, bloodied and scratched, was planted in the town square, a grim and mocking trophy from a werewolf who was still out there somewhere.
But where?
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You know the drill. Please put your votes and changes/withdrawals of votes clearly in bold. The required majority today is three.
REMAINING PLAYER LIST:
CGMark
smutly
setaside
Crux
gbasden
A kind of victory had been achieved, but with that came certain knowledge also that the horror was not yet over.
Octopus-Over-Lordington awoke - but this time there was no mystery over who had died that night.
The head of Suitably Ironic Moniker, mouth agape in terror, bloodied and scratched, was planted in the town square, a grim and mocking trophy from a werewolf who was still out there somewhere.
But where?
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You know the drill. Please put your votes and changes/withdrawals of votes clearly in bold. The required majority today is three.
REMAINING PLAYER LIST:
CGMark
smutly
setaside
Crux
gbasden
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I am the Seer. And gbasden is the last werewolf.
Allow me to construct the sequence of events that has led me to this conclusion:
Night 1: I dreamed of Ralph Wiggum. He was man, all man. The fresh scent of Level 2000 filled my nostrils. He definitely didn't have that musty puppy-smell. Sadly Ralph was falsely accused, and we both had to fight to prevent his lynching. In the process he revealed his visitations from the Seer, and hence sealed his own death for that evening. We decided to vote for tgbjb because of his initial, unwavering accusation against Ralph, whom we knew to be innocent.
Here was where I took a gamble. It was early, and while we hadn't caught a werewolf yet, there were still plenty of villagers. I felt Suitably Ironic Moniker was 'clean' so I contacted him via pm and revealed myself. SiM helped turn the tide against RW.
Day 1: We lynched tgb. It was a mistake. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette!
Night 2: I dreamed of YankeeMan. In my dreams, he was peeing on a fire hydrant and chewing on a human leg-bone. I've heard the first is a part of his usual mating ritual with human girls, but the second definitely marked him as a werewolf. Needless to say, poor Ralph was a dead man, as we expected.
Day 2: This was where things became tricky. SiM and I knew YM84 had to die, but we couldn't be too obvious in revealing it. I asked SiM to accuse YM84 first to protect myself as the Seer, and he was a good team player and did so. I was then able to support his accusation. But, there was too much side-action taking place. I knew smutly was clean the moment he voted for YM84 reasonably early in the process. I revealed myself to him as the Seer, and the fact I'm still alive today proves his innocence. But that left the gbasden/cgmark/setaside problem... setaide and cgmark were voting for each other, and gbasden was jumping on the bandwagon.
So I pmed setaside pretending that the Seer had pmed me and told me that cgmark was innocent, but that YM84 was not. He was dubious at first, but eventually came around. Meanwhile I asked SiM to pm gbasden and tell him the same thing (ie the seer had told SiM that setaside was innocent). It was a gamble, but I figured this would reveal the last werewolf one way or the other. I then sent a pm to gbasden again claiming the seer had contacted me.
As the debate continued, there was much pming in the background. After considering the facts, I then pmed setaside and told him I was the Seer. I did not reveal this to gbasden because now I was sure that either cgmark or gbasden was the werewolf. I figured that if I survived the night, who out of SiM and myself survived would reveal the werewolf (combined with my dream for the night).
Night 3: I dreamed of cgmark, and he was innocent. Meanwhile Ralph Wiggum died. This meant that there were only three possibilities:
setaside is the werewolf
smutly is the werewolf
gbasden is the werewolf
setaside and smutly both know me to be the seer, and yet I survived the night. gbasden did not, was contacted by SiM first at my request, and now SiM is dead.
So my vote, as the seer, is for gbasden to be lynched for his horrible crimes against the community!
PS. If I'm wrong and I die, then it must be setaside
Allow me to construct the sequence of events that has led me to this conclusion:
Night 1: I dreamed of Ralph Wiggum. He was man, all man. The fresh scent of Level 2000 filled my nostrils. He definitely didn't have that musty puppy-smell. Sadly Ralph was falsely accused, and we both had to fight to prevent his lynching. In the process he revealed his visitations from the Seer, and hence sealed his own death for that evening. We decided to vote for tgbjb because of his initial, unwavering accusation against Ralph, whom we knew to be innocent.
Here was where I took a gamble. It was early, and while we hadn't caught a werewolf yet, there were still plenty of villagers. I felt Suitably Ironic Moniker was 'clean' so I contacted him via pm and revealed myself. SiM helped turn the tide against RW.
Day 1: We lynched tgb. It was a mistake. You have to break a few eggs to make an omelette!
Night 2: I dreamed of YankeeMan. In my dreams, he was peeing on a fire hydrant and chewing on a human leg-bone. I've heard the first is a part of his usual mating ritual with human girls, but the second definitely marked him as a werewolf. Needless to say, poor Ralph was a dead man, as we expected.
Day 2: This was where things became tricky. SiM and I knew YM84 had to die, but we couldn't be too obvious in revealing it. I asked SiM to accuse YM84 first to protect myself as the Seer, and he was a good team player and did so. I was then able to support his accusation. But, there was too much side-action taking place. I knew smutly was clean the moment he voted for YM84 reasonably early in the process. I revealed myself to him as the Seer, and the fact I'm still alive today proves his innocence. But that left the gbasden/cgmark/setaside problem... setaide and cgmark were voting for each other, and gbasden was jumping on the bandwagon.
So I pmed setaside pretending that the Seer had pmed me and told me that cgmark was innocent, but that YM84 was not. He was dubious at first, but eventually came around. Meanwhile I asked SiM to pm gbasden and tell him the same thing (ie the seer had told SiM that setaside was innocent). It was a gamble, but I figured this would reveal the last werewolf one way or the other. I then sent a pm to gbasden again claiming the seer had contacted me.
As the debate continued, there was much pming in the background. After considering the facts, I then pmed setaside and told him I was the Seer. I did not reveal this to gbasden because now I was sure that either cgmark or gbasden was the werewolf. I figured that if I survived the night, who out of SiM and myself survived would reveal the werewolf (combined with my dream for the night).
Night 3: I dreamed of cgmark, and he was innocent. Meanwhile Ralph Wiggum died. This meant that there were only three possibilities:
setaside is the werewolf
smutly is the werewolf
gbasden is the werewolf
setaside and smutly both know me to be the seer, and yet I survived the night. gbasden did not, was contacted by SiM first at my request, and now SiM is dead.
So my vote, as the seer, is for gbasden to be lynched for his horrible crimes against the community!
PS. If I'm wrong and I die, then it must be setaside
If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit - Mitch Hedberg
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Just a quick note to add that I'm in a retreat for work all stinking day I'll try and check back here at lunchtime, but no promises. So if anyone needs to pm me to discuss their vote, that's why I won't reply until this afternoon!
If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit - Mitch Hedberg
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OMG, I'm actually eating popcorn...slowly...while reading every word of the fate of the poor villagers! Crux! You're holding up the lives of TWO villages with your retreat! I certainly hope that Jesus saves you today.
(He may be the only one who can...)
(He may be the only one who can...)
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You know, I see this game run at Dragoncon every year but never get around to playing it. I'm going to have to give it a shot this year.
(yes Crux, that's right, live games of Werewolf being run in Atlanta Labor Day weekend.. you know you want to )
(yes Crux, that's right, live games of Werewolf being run in Atlanta Labor Day weekend.. you know you want to )
CeeKay has left the building. See him exclusively at Gaming Trend!
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Your logic is confusing. As I mentioned in my PM back to you, SIM sent me a PM claiming that the seer had told him that both Setaside was innocent, and Yankeeman was a werewolf. This is not possible for the seer to know unless Ralph had lied the first night about being contacted. This led me to believe that SIM was attempting to misdirect me, although your PM had me mostly convinced.
Padre had said he was absolutely going to bed, and the stalemate still stood when I left work. By the time I got home, setaside had changed his vote and Yankeeman was dead.
If I *were* the werewolf, why would I kill someone who was telling me things that couldn't be true? SIM was making claims that logically were questionable.
Padre had said he was absolutely going to bed, and the stalemate still stood when I left work. By the time I got home, setaside had changed his vote and Yankeeman was dead.
If I *were* the werewolf, why would I kill someone who was telling me things that couldn't be true? SIM was making claims that logically were questionable.
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You could dip him in the river. If he floats, he's a witch and should be burned at the stake. If he sinks and drowns, he wasn't a witch, and you're all safe.
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Finding Red Riding Hood well-armed, the wolf calls for more gun control.
Finding Red Riding Hood well-armed, the wolf calls for more gun control.
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I've been collecting the requests right over here.CSL wrote:...I am in for the next round as I stated before.
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According to your other post, I wonder what the proper ratio of wolves:villagers:seers is. Are there official rules for this anywhere? I know Mayfair puts out a party card version of this called Lupus in Tabula but I have never played it.Grundbegriff wrote:I've been collecting the requests right over here.CSL wrote:...I am in for the next round as I stated before.
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Your morning treatise said, that if you're wrong, then it's setaside. That's not very "clearly".Crux wrote:I'm back, everyone.
My vote and original assertion still stands. gbasden is clearly the werewolf. String him up!
“I prefer dangerous freedom over peaceful slavery.” -Thomas Jefferson
Finding Red Riding Hood well-armed, the wolf calls for more gun control.
Finding Red Riding Hood well-armed, the wolf calls for more gun control.
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It is clear. But there is some small room for error. Right now I'd call it about a 98% probability it is gbasden, and about a 2% chance it is setaside. As I've stated above, I know cgmark is clean. I know smutly is clean. That only leaves two, and it wouldn't make sense for Setaside to have not eliminated me last night. It makes complete sense for gbasden to have eliminated SiM.Bakhtosh wrote:Your morning treatise said, that if you're wrong, then it's setaside. That's not very "clearly".Crux wrote:I'm back, everyone.
My vote and original assertion still stands. gbasden is clearly the werewolf. String him up!
If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit - Mitch Hedberg
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Nice try. But no cigar. Only a retarded werewolf wouldn't kill the seer once they know who he/she is. You were the only possible werewolf last night who didn't know I am the seer. And I'm still alivegbasden wrote:Your logic is confusing. As I mentioned in my PM back to you, SIM sent me a PM claiming that the seer had told him that both Setaside was innocent, and Yankeeman was a werewolf. This is not possible for the seer to know unless Ralph had lied the first night about being contacted. This led me to believe that SIM was attempting to misdirect me, although your PM had me mostly convinced.
Padre had said he was absolutely going to bed, and the stalemate still stood when I left work. By the time I got home, setaside had changed his vote and Yankeeman was dead.
If I *were* the werewolf, why would I kill someone who was telling me things that couldn't be true? SIM was making claims that logically were questionable.
If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit - Mitch Hedberg
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While poor sumtly had seemingly been unable to gather his thoughts, the crowd had mae up his mind, and gbasden it was to be.
Breath was held, loins were girded, each man rapt with attention as gbasden was forced onto the gallows.
FINAL VOTE TALLY:
CGMark - gbasden
smutly - no vote submitted
setaside - gbasden
Crux - gbasden
gbasden - setaside
A good hangman can kill quickly and cleanly, but the villagers remaing were not good hangmen, and they watched with grisly fascination as he struggled, gasped, choked, and finally fell silent.
Silence...
And then the change! Twisting through many horrible intermediate forms, the truth was now unmistakable - gbasden was a werewolf all along!
The nightmare was finally over, the curse lifted, and the remainin villagers could live their lives in peace.
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Well done, everyone, well played!
I'll have some post match analysis later on, but for now, I open the floor to any kind of commentary from anyone at all, even the erstwhile dead.
IT IS NIGHT... BUT NO ONE DIES
Breath was held, loins were girded, each man rapt with attention as gbasden was forced onto the gallows.
FINAL VOTE TALLY:
CGMark - gbasden
smutly - no vote submitted
setaside - gbasden
Crux - gbasden
gbasden - setaside
A good hangman can kill quickly and cleanly, but the villagers remaing were not good hangmen, and they watched with grisly fascination as he struggled, gasped, choked, and finally fell silent.
Silence...
And then the change! Twisting through many horrible intermediate forms, the truth was now unmistakable - gbasden was a werewolf all along!
The nightmare was finally over, the curse lifted, and the remainin villagers could live their lives in peace.
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Well done, everyone, well played!
I'll have some post match analysis later on, but for now, I open the floor to any kind of commentary from anyone at all, even the erstwhile dead.
IT IS NIGHT... BUT NO ONE DIES
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Heh. If your werewolf is indeed retarded, it might fit the profile as I spent enough time fumbling around with my accusations yesterday.Crux wrote:Now I just hope we did not, indeed, have a retarded werewolf!
If you are truly confident that it's either me or gbasden however, you've most assuredly made the correct choice.
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Man. Good game everyone!
I have to give kudos to gbasden. He really did a good job of faking me out last night. In truth, if smutly had not voted to Yankeeman so early in the process then I couldn't have narrowed it down.
To be honest, I'm really surprised you didn't kill me last night. After RW I figured I would be the next to go
EDIT: Great kudos to SiM also. He was an awesome team player, and was willing to take one for the team there by sending the pm he did. That was, I believe, the smokescreen that allowed me to live another night, and hence let us win the game. Good job! And poor Ralph. You'll be missed
I have to give kudos to gbasden. He really did a good job of faking me out last night. In truth, if smutly had not voted to Yankeeman so early in the process then I couldn't have narrowed it down.
To be honest, I'm really surprised you didn't kill me last night. After RW I figured I would be the next to go
EDIT: Great kudos to SiM also. He was an awesome team player, and was willing to take one for the team there by sending the pm he did. That was, I believe, the smokescreen that allowed me to live another night, and hence let us win the game. Good job! And poor Ralph. You'll be missed
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But clearly Crux's devious strategy would not nearly have worked so well if private communication was not used. It's too bad, because in the general case I'd agree that it's more fun for us kibbitzers were we to have all the information at our fingertips, but I can't see getting to the bottom of things without going the PM route.Padre wrote:So, talk! Accuse! Lie! Persuade!
Do it here where we can all see you, it's more fun. I can't ban PMs between you, but it's more fun if everyone sees .
Fun game, Padre. Thanks for bringing it to our boards.
~Neal
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So true. Without pms your strategies are severely limited. In truth though, pms work both ways. The werewolves can use them to great advantage, bringing the seer into disrepute.The Meal wrote:But clearly Crux's devious strategy would not nearly have worked so well if private communication was not used. It's too bad, because in the general case I'd agree that it's more fun for us kibbitzers were we to have all the information at our fingertips, but I can't see getting to the bottom of things without going the PM route.Padre wrote:So, talk! Accuse! Lie! Persuade!
Do it here where we can all see you, it's more fun. I can't ban PMs between you, but it's more fun if everyone sees .
Fun game, Padre. Thanks for bringing it to our boards.
~Neal
I think perhaps the only rule regarding the pms should be no screenshotting them. The game should all be he-said, she-said.
If you are flammable and have legs, you are never blocking a fire exit - Mitch Hedberg
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Indeed, I never meant to ban PMing and anticipated a lot of it, I just wanted to ensure there was SOME banter here on the main thread. Looks like I needn't have worried, the game went off pretty much perfectly.The Meal wrote: But clearly Crux's devious strategy would not nearly have worked so well if private communication was not used. It's too bad, because in the general case I'd agree that it's more fun for us kibbitzers were we to have all the information at our fingertips, but I can't see getting to the bottom of things without going the PM route.
Thank you!Fun game, Padre. Thanks for bringing it to our boards.