The Trump Investigation(s) Thread

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 8:52 pm

https://twitter.com/kevinmkruse/status/ ... 7496250368

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Sun Jul 16, 2017 11:15 pm

If the President or the President's family did it, they're not responsible. The buck stops anywhere else.

#notwinning

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:38 am

We'll that was fast. After months of "I have nothing to do with Russia" and "it could've been a 400lbs dweeb in his mom's basement", we've finally arrived at "fuck yeah we colluded, and it was amazing"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4220568576

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:40 am

So, he's also abandoned the "Trump's not a politician" myth?

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:42 am

He also seems to think he has some kind of insight into the inner workings of "most politicians'" campaigns. This is someone who can't even be bothered to learn about the details of policy that he himself is INCREDIBLY EAGER to sign into law. Now he wants us to believe that he knows that most other politicians would have taken that meeting?

Oh wait, he's just going off his own gut feeling instead of any actual information, as usual. Carry on!

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 10:55 am

Captain Caveman wrote:We'll that was fast. After months of "I have nothing to do with Russia" and "it could've been a 400lbs dweeb in his mom's basement", we've finally arrived at "fuck yeah we colluded, and it was amazing"

https://twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/sta ... 4220568576

The important thing here is that the tweet showed up on Tapatalk.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:03 am

Only if most politicians are selfish assholes more interested in being elected than concern about their country or being manipulated.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:04 am

What tapatalk sorcery are you running that got the tweet to show up? I just get the link that CC helpfully provided because he's not a monster.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:05 am

Zarathud wrote:Only if most politicians are selfish assholes more interested in being elected than concern about their country or being manipulated.

The thing is that either Trump actually believes that, or wants the public to believe that. He's trying to create a new reality where what he's doing is normal because it's how politicians have always acted. If he's the new normal, then it's less likely that he'll get kicked out on his ass for doing what he's been doing.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:19 am

Trump also has access to the publisher of tabloids. New lows everyday.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:21 am

Chaz wrote:What tapatalk sorcery are you running that got the tweet to show up? I just get the link that CC helpfully provided because he's not a monster.

I don't know. I opened the app and it was there. But when I looked through my updates I found one from the 13th that says Twitter is supported now.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:23 am

I ran a test in the Meta thread. The results will shock you!

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:24 am

Someone else doing something wrong IS NOT A GODDAMN DEFENSE, YOU ORANGE FUCKTARD.

The Zodiac Killer can murder 7 people, but I can't kill just one person without people getting upset. UNFAIR!

wonderpug · Post by **wonderpug** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:31 am

It's still FAKE NEWS MEDIA even if we're talking about something that's not fake?

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:31 am

msteelers wrote:
Chaz wrote:What tapatalk sorcery are you running that got the tweet to show up? I just get the link that CC helpfully provided because he's not a monster.
I don't know. I opened the app and it was there. But when I looked through my updates I found one from the 13th that says Twitter is supported now.

Are you on iOS? I'm on Android, have no pending updates, and no embedded tweets.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:32 am

Isgrimnur wrote:I ran a test in the Meta thread. The results will shock you!

So in other words, embedded tweets still suck.

msteelers · Post by **msteelers** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:32 am

Chaz wrote:
msteelers wrote:
Chaz wrote:What tapatalk sorcery are you running that got the tweet to show up? I just get the link that CC helpfully provided because he's not a monster.
I don't know. I opened the app and it was there. But when I looked through my updates I found one from the 13th that says Twitter is supported now.
Are you on iOS? I'm on Android, have no pending updates, and no embedded tweets.

Yeah, iOS.

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:34 am

Crap, I just remembered that I got Tapatalk through Amazon, so updates would come through there instead of the Google store,and I uninstalled the Amazon app. I'll check when I get back to the office.

hitbyambulance · Post by **hitbyambulance** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:42 pm

hepcat wrote: Someone else doing something wrong IS NOT A GODDAMN DEFENSE

someone should let Rip know.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 1:44 pm

hepcat wrote:
Someone else doing something wrong IS NOT A GODDAMN DEFENSE, YOU ORANGE FUCKTARD.

The Zodiac Killer can murder 7 people, but I can't kill just one person without people getting upset. UNFAIR!

To say nothing of the fact that she lost.

Perhaps that's what all his his outrage really is. He is outraged that he believes he did all the same shit as Hillary and she got to lose.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:17 pm

hitbyambulance wrote:
hepcat wrote: Someone else doing something wrong IS NOT A GODDAMN DEFENSE

someone should let Rip know.

Hey, it's his go to defense. Without it, he's got very little to work with these days.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:30 pm

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:33 pm

The owls are not what they seem

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:33 pm

As seen on Facebook:

Listen, you cornered, traitorous dipsh-ts, at this point just go with "I ran out of gas! I got a flat tire! I didn’t have change for cab fare! I lost my tux at the cleaners! I locked my keys in the car! An old friend came in from out of town! Someone stole my car! There was an earthquake! A terrible flood! Locusts! IT WASN’T MY FAULT, I SWEAR TO GOD!"

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:51 pm

Sean Spicer just gave a briefing where he said there's no reason to believe DonJr's meeting was about anything other than adoption.

Captain Caveman · Post by **Captain Caveman** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:53 pm

Holman wrote:Sean Spicer just gave a briefing where he said there's no reason to believe DonJr's meeting was about anything other than adoption.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:55 pm

And there are a lot of idiots that will actually believe that...even after reading Jr.'s self released emails that deny that.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:55 pm

Adoption of Russian oversight in the US white house?

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:58 pm

Rip wrote:

OREILLY

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:02 pm

Nugget from our national poll coming out tomorrow- only 45% of Trump voters believe Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with Russians...

So... despite DonJr and everyone else admitting it, and even with coverage on Fox, more than half of Trump voters believe it never happened.

There's some segment in there that probably follows no news at all, but I wonder how many are just "It hurts Trump and the media says it, so it must be a lie."

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 5:41 pm

I also, can now see tweets! Praise Tweesus!

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:37 pm

New talking point straight from the home office.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 6:44 pm

Holman wrote: but I wonder how many are just "It hurts Trump and the media says it, so it must be a lie."

Or how many are just lying themselves.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:03 pm

Holman wrote:

Nugget from our national poll coming out tomorrow- only 45% of Trump voters believe Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with Russians...
So... despite DonJr and everyone else admitting it, and even with coverage on Fox, more than half of Trump voters believe it never happened.

There's some segment in there that probably follows no news at all, but I wonder how many are just "It hurts Trump and the media says it, so it must be a lie."

So...if Don Jr. personally printed out his own emails and handed it to those people, they still would scream "fake news"?

Chaz · Post by **Chaz** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:00 pm

This is why they spent so much time discrediting the media. Now, even when the news outlets report things that the administration and Trump family themselves say and do, their supporters will immediately think that anything negative is a false story being created by the media.

They get all the credit for things their supporters like, because either the media can be trusted on those counts or the Trumps are saying it themselves on Twitter, they get a buffer for the things their supporters don't like, because you can't trust the lying media, and they get more credit for things that didn't happen, because the lying media just isn't reporting it.

Whichever of his inner circle pushed the "discredit the media" strategy is both horrible and brilliant. And by pushed, I mean "stole from previous successful authoritarian regime playbooks."

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:04 pm

Holman wrote:

Nugget from our national poll coming out tomorrow- only 45% of Trump voters believe Donald Trump Jr. had a meeting with Russians...
So... despite DonJr and everyone else admitting it, and even with coverage on Fox, more than half of Trump voters believe it never happened.

There's some segment in there that probably follows no news at all, but I wonder how many are just "It hurts Trump and the media says it, so it must be a lie."

My guess is that, if their feet were held to the fire and they were shown the actual proof, they'd immediately claim the poll itself is FAKE NEWS. Since it shows them in a negative light.

Nightwish · Post by **Nightwish** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:16 pm

hepcat wrote:
Someone else doing something wrong IS NOT A GODDAMN DEFENSE, YOU ORANGE FUCKTARD.

The Zodiac Killer can murder 7 people, but I can't kill just one person without people getting upset. UNFAIR!

So that means now Hillary or Soros or the Bogeyman can work with the Chinese to hack voting machines in 2018 totally legit, right? That's how democracy works, ain't it? And since Nixon spied on opponents, that means they can spy on everyone's computer just fine, right? Oh, wait...

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Mon Jul 17, 2017 11:15 pm

Chaz wrote:This is why they spent so much time discrediting the media. Now, even when the news outlets report things that the administration and Trump family themselves say and do, their supporters will immediately think that anything negative is a false story being created by the media.

They get all the credit for things their supporters like, because either the media can be trusted on those counts or the Trumps are saying it themselves on Twitter, they get a buffer for the things their supporters don't like, because you can't trust the lying media, and they get more credit for things that didn't happen, because the lying media just isn't reporting it.

Whichever of his inner circle pushed the "discredit the media" strategy is both horrible and brilliant. And by pushed, I mean "stole from previous successful authoritarian regime playbooks."

Was probably Bannon.

Rip · Post by **Rip** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:40 am

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Tue Jul 18, 2017 6:41 am

It's been easy to miss in all the noise, but is anyone noticing that the WH and now Fox News have begun to paint Ukraine as the enemy?