[WW] The Rule of Thirds - The Meer win everything

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:28 pm

Sorry guys.

(seriously didn't want to change any rules, but I felt that had good merit to change)

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 10:29 pm

stessier wrote:Ok, so what I learn from this is I should refresh before posting - because that was not the rule when I started writing my post. Unagi

No need for that vote, everyone can win if the Jackass is still alive.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 3:03 am

Unagi wrote:
stessier wrote:Ok, so what I learn from this is I should refresh before posting - because that was not the rule when I started writing my post. Unagi

No need for that vote, everyone can win if the Jackass is still alive.

I'm tough to kill so I'm gonna go ahead and bet everyone wins this game.

What?

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:11 am

Checking in.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:55 am

I see we start with a lynch...uh...any volunteers?

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:22 pm

Remus

He's way too active this early. I say we preemptively kill the bastage!

Sectoid · Post by **Sectoid** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 12:26 pm

Lassr wrote:I see we start with a lynch...uh...any volunteers?

Lassr

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 1:03 pm

Lassr works for me. Sounds like dragon's breath.

Lassr

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:00 pm

Lagom

...just so you don't think I'm defending him....

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:06 pm

withdraw stessier

Lassr wrote:I see we start with a lynch...uh...any volunteers?

i think we found one

lassr

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 2:59 pm

Yeah, that'll work.

Lassr

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:29 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote: Remus

He's way too active this early. I say we preemptively kill the bastage!

You do realize he's not actually playing?

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:30 pm

So Sectoid is a King?

Sectoid · Post by **Sectoid** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 6:53 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:So Sectoid is a King?

Nope, I'm a Queen and my name is Deja Vu.
And what did you say your name was? Dude...do...Dod, that was it...DOD!

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:00 pm

Sectoid wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:So Sectoid is a King?
Nope, I'm a Queen and my name is Deja Vu.
And what did you say your name was? Dude...do...Dod, that was it...DOD!

I just wondered why everyone suddenly scrambled to your side there. Almost like they were trying to tell you something.

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:02 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:So Sectoid is a King?

That was my first thought, too.

However, surely newcastle and Grund wouldn't be so openly blantant in following their king, would they? (I've never played with LM, so I'm unfamiliar with his style).

Since LM was so quick to jump on Sectoid's bandwagon, let's try:

Lord Mortis

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:09 pm

Qantaga wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:So Sectoid is a King?

That was my first thought, too.

However, surely newcastle and Grund wouldn't be so openly blantant in following their king, would they? (I've never played with LM, so I'm unfamiliar with his style).

Since LM was so quick to jump on Sectoid's bandwagon, let's try:

Lord Mortis

I'm confused now. Are you voting for him because you think he's a pawn of King Sectoid or because you think he's the Dragon?

Qantaga · Post by **Qantaga** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:33 pm

Lagom Lite wrote: I'm confused now. Are you voting for him because you think he's a pawn of King Sectoid or because you think he's the Dragon?

Truthfully? I just want to see what he has to say about jumping on the Sectoid vote so soon. He's not in any danger of reaching majority and I figure gathering information is a very good thing.

However, as an added bonus, since a quick pile-on vote like that seems like fairly dragon-ish behavior, that seemed like a good place for me to try to uncover a dragon, too.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:40 pm

Obviously Lassr *isn't* King of (people voting for him). I wonder if the Night will be a massacre of ludicrous decisions or careful use or hoarding.

Sectoid · Post by **Sectoid** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 7:51 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Obviously Lassr *isn't* King of (people voting for him). I wonder if the Night will be a massacre of ludicrous decisions or careful use or hoarding.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 9:00 pm

Sectoid wrote:
Lassr wrote:I see we start with a lynch...uh...any volunteers?
Lassr

brilliant!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:19 pm

Votes:
Against stessier (1): Lagom Lite
Against Lagom Lite (1): stessier
Against Lassr (4): Sectoid, LordMortis, Newcastle, Grundbegriff
Against LordMortis (1): Qantaga

No vote (9): msteelers, tru1cy, Isgrimnur, Bakhtosh, Mr Bubbles, Brossi, Triggercut, Lassr, Chaosraven

Majority: 9

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:27 pm

Role Pick-Up Update:
I'm still waiting on 1 player to pick up their Role.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 10:40 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Obviously Lassr *isn't* King of (people voting for him). I wonder if the Night will be a massacre of ludicrous decisions or careful use or hoarding.

That's not obvious at all.

The goal of a King's followers is to ensure that the keys remain attuned to that House. That goal is not inconsistent with the goal of becoming ruler oneself.

Suppose Bubba is king. A bunch of people vote against Bubba, including some members of Bubba's house. Bubba dies, and his keys are therefore unheld. That night, a bunch of people clamor to re-attune those keys. But who has precedence?

Members of that house take precedence over members of other houses (and the dragon).
Among members of that house, the pecking order kicks in.

So the odds are very strong that the keys to House of Bubba will remain among his followers. Why shouldn't they refrain from voting him down, especially when resurrecting him (to garner the power of his stones) is always a live option.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Sat Dec 18, 2010 11:55 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote: Remus

He's way too active this early. I say we preemptively kill the bastage!
You do realize he's not actually playing?

Yes Lagom, I do realize he's not playing, but I'm not ready to vote for an active player yet, so I thought the next best thing would be remus.

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:14 am

My DS doesn't show the vote format - I figured everyone was casting joke votes until I got to Unagi's vote talley.

I can't go back to the rules while typing on this - If someone is killed, what happens to their stones?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 2:38 am

Grundbegriff wrote:
So the odds are very strong that the keys to House of Bubba will remain among his followers. Why shouldn't they refrain from voting him down, especially when resurrecting him (to garner the power of his stones) is always a live option.

although you don't want to use up your stones too quickly.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 4:52 am

Qantaga wrote:Truthfully? I just want to see what he has to say about jumping on the Sectoid vote so soon. He's not in any danger of reaching majority and I figure gathering information is a very good thing.

Nothing to say here, really. Unless you'd like me to just start talking about said nothing. I could tell you about my evening. I was dressed as santa and went barhopping with my sister and her friends. I lost them after about 20 minutes and didn't see them again for the next five hours. I did meet with up an old friend and his wife got me to do things we won't discuss here.

Shortly thereafter my old friend borrowed my phone started dialing people from my phone book. He was leaving messages about looking for reindeer so he could shoot a movie. Things started to get a little weird from that point out.

Take from that what you will.

I don't mind getting on a early bandwagon with no remorse. I don't really have anything to care about today. Teams are small. I prefer not to get killed myself and I'd like to see so how things move, but meh. Being a pawn and getting lynched on day the first day will see its perks before it's all done.

tru1cy · Post by **tru1cy** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:09 am

I'm going against the grain and vote for Dod

Whichever player is the dragon gets my vote

Seriously, I'll continue to monitor, but those voting for Lassr could be on his team and protecting him. Maybe, we should push to the brink and see who withdraws votes?

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:19 am

tru1cy wrote: but those voting for Lassr could be on his team and protecting him.

So you are saying I'm a king now... [pause]visions of people bowing in front of me then "puff" [/pause] sigh

You know sectoid just made a brilliant move seeing right through my ignorance and others followed. Hopefully it's over now though.

That foul stench is not dragon's breath either, it's the black bean soup from last night.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 11:20 am

I know, let's get the new guy to talk!

Brossi

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 12:20 pm

withdraw stessier

Lassr

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:32 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Obviously Lassr *isn't* King of (people voting for him). I wonder if the Night will be a massacre of ludicrous decisions or careful use or hoarding.
That's not obvious at all.

The goal of a King's followers is to ensure that the keys remain attuned to that House. That goal is not inconsistent with the goal of becoming ruler oneself.

Suppose Bubba is king. A bunch of people vote against Bubba, including some members of Bubba's house. Bubba dies, and his keys are therefore unheld. That night, a bunch of people clamor to re-attune those keys. But who has precedence?

Why shouldn't they refrain from voting him down, especially when resurrecting him (to garner the power of his stones) is always a live option.

I think you meant SHOULD, but why eliminate a member of the house, who you KNOW has the key, and set up for being shorthanded where only One member knows where the key is, and None of the others even know who he is?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 5:37 pm

...Followed, of course, by all survivng members wasting a stone in a squabble for the key. And who will ressurrect the King? All of them (with no coordination)? Seems like a ridiculous waste, as it doesn't matter who has the key, that house is a family, no?

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 6:15 pm

Chaosraven wrote:...Followed, of course, by all survivng members wasting a stone in a squabble for the key. And who will ressurrect the King? All of them (with no coordination)? Seems like a ridiculous waste, as it doesn't matter who has the key, that house is a family, no?

There's no point in resurrecting a King, seems to me. The Prince of a House has precedence if several players tries to attune a fallen King simultaneously, so obviously the lower ranking pawns should defer attunement to the Prince. This gets trickier if members of a fallen House aren't sure their Prince is dead or alive (death only shows rank, not House) or out of Macht Stones. But if your King dies early, it should be a no-brainer and not a very big problem.

If Lassr is a King and his pawns are trying to get him lynched, they're either making a mistake or they're playing really convoluted. Very unlikely. There's nothing to gain.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 7:11 pm

I would figure getting back a known teammate would be extremely important later.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:52 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
Grundbegriff wrote:Suppose Bubba is king. A bunch of people vote against Bubba, including some members of Bubba's house. Bubba dies, and his keys are therefore unheld. That night, a bunch of people clamor to re-attune those keys. But who has precedence?

Why shouldn't they refrain from voting him down, especially when resurrecting him (to garner the power of his stones) is always a live option.
I think you meant SHOULD, but why eliminate a member of the house, who you KNOW has the key, and set up for being shorthanded where only One member knows where the key is, and None of the others even know who he is?

Whenever the keys are reattuned, everyone on the team is apprised of the identity of their new leader.
It's unlike you to be unfamiliar with the rules that will constrain your play.

Chaosraven is Dod.

Chaosraven

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 8:55 pm

Tha Rulez wrote:Contestants are always kept aware of who their leader is, and when it changes.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:45 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:
Tha Rulez wrote:Contestants are always kept aware of who their leader is, and when it changes.

missed that.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Sun Dec 19, 2010 9:49 pm

Ah, I see why, it wasn't under KEYS, it was under STONES.