Borderlands 2 - Impressions start Page 5

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:55 am

Smooth isn't going to like it... HEADBOBBING TO THE MAXIMUM. Man 10 minutes in, and I want to vomit. I don't see an option to turn it off in the menus

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:11 am

Yeah, I'm going to have to explore that tomorrow. Too tired now, but my eyes are killing me and I'm feeling dizzy. Not a good sign.

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:42 am

Just got done playing.

It's like Borderlands, only the world is made of colors other than brown.

It's great fun so far.

As they say in the intro: "The call of danger and loot is not so easily resisted."

Although that's not my favorite line so far...

Spoiler:

I can't wait to play more tomorrow.

McBa1n · Post by **McBa1n** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:00 am

Pretty fun playing for an hour or so. Same as the first one, it seems - and still quite as fun.
... But still would probably be tremendously UNfun not playing coop. Coop is always a blast with a shotgun.

EDIT - one other pain in the butt is every time I load the game, it updates the MS .net framework... Even after reboot.
PAIN IN THE BUTT! Hope that gets fixed.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 4:21 am

Wait what..this came out already? Wow I missed it. I can only afford 1 game plus a cheapie. But I cant remember the game I wanted. It may have been this but Im not sure so I have to wait till I can figure out the other games LOLz.

Anyways for those that don't have it and would like to see the beginning easy mission played out ......and which may have been posted since I haven't kept up with this thread and dont know... http://www.g4tv.com/videos/60810/border ... ideo-60828" target="_blank

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:07 am

The only game I remember you saying you were going to get was Dishonored, but that's not out until Oct/Nov I believe

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 5:47 am

Yes ty that was it. Hmmm bummer.

Peacedog · Post by **Peacedog** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:54 am

One hour in, and this is terrific.

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 7:59 am

Chesspieceface · Post by **Chesspieceface** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:39 am

McBa1n wrote:Pretty fun playing for an hour or so. Same as the first one, it seems - and still quite as fun.
... But still would probably be tremendously UNfun not playing coop. Coop is always a blast with a shotgun.

EDIT - one other pain in the butt is every time I load the game, it updates the MS .net framework... Even after reboot.
PAIN IN THE BUTT! Hope that gets fixed.

Until the patch, go to your path that resembles:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Borderlands 2\Binaries\Redist

and either delete or rename dotNetFx40_Client_x86_x64.exe

that will skip it until the game gets updated. Alternatively it seems you can run Steam in Admin mode to let it succeed.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 8:55 am

You can also manually update the .NET nonsense directly from Microsoft. Note that a reboot will be required.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:05 am

Just like with the original I played the first night at default resolution. I could swear the options in the startup menu said auto-detect. This morning I checked and yup, 1024x768.

I only played for about an hour last night, but I enjoyed it. It's really MOTS at least through the first few missions. That's not a bad thing really. I picked the Commando(?), which seems to be the Roland/Soldier equivalent for the most part (or exactly?). I only got to 5th level, but have 5ish badass points that I am afraid to spend. Permanent upgrades that span all characters.... geez no pressure there. All the guns I have picked up thus far are garbage. I guess that is consistent with the original also. I will say the enemies seem to move more. As soon as you get a bead on one, he's somewhere else. Good, but bad.

I'm tremendously annoyed that I am flying out in a few hours and won't get to play again until this weekend. I want to play.

McBa1n wrote:Pretty fun playing for an hour or so. Same as the first one, it seems - and still quite as fun.
... But still would probably be tremendously UNfun not playing coop. Coop is always a blast with a shotgun.

Emphasis mine. You are nuts. Well, actually I guess I am always playing Coop so I can be having fun either way.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 9:13 am

Two things:

Delete the desktop shortcut that was created when the game was preloading. I believe that's also part of the .NET issue. Just create a new one.

Disabling the UI sway and cranking the FOV to levels that seem ridiculous (I think I maxed it at 106) seems to have addressed sick-tummy syndrome. I will probably need 30+ more hours to say for sure.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:25 am

Exodor wrote:Just got done playing.

It's like Borderlands, only the world is made of colors other than brown.

I'm already sold.

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:30 am

Got in about 3 hours before I had to crash last night and it's fantastic so far!

The environments feel much more interesting, gunplay is much tighter, and some of the new random weapons are staggeringly cool. The first assault rifle I got was sweet and the explosive shots it used were much improved from the first game. Some of the later assault rifles I got have 3 barrels in gatling configuration with one of them basically being a small minigun. Shields in particular seem to be stronger which made fights much more interesting. As long as I was careful and didn't completely expose myself my shields tended to last quite a while in combat instead of going down after a handful of hits like in the first BL. There was still plenty of danger and I did die a couple of times, but that change gives you a little more time to react to a changing tactical situation.

Coop looks really seemless now with the Steam integration. While I was playing I could see a few other OOers on and not only was there a button to immediately join their games, I could see what missions they were working on.

I got about as far as getting the first car, and it seems like driving is largely the same. Still have the choice of MG or Rocket... not sure if they've improved the MG, but the rocket launcher does feel a little more balanced compared to what it was. They also added a powerslide option if you hold down G on the keyboard.

Really digging the new solider (aka commando) as expected. Only have a few skill points so far, and I haven't looked through the trees extensively, but there seem like lots of good options. I didn't notice any healing options, but I might have just missed them. One tree looks focused on defense, one on turret offense, and one on improving your gunplay. Quite a bit of overlap between them, but I think those are the basic ideas.

Hopefully I'll get in some good coop tonight with my g/f and her friend.

Teggy · Post by **Teggy** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:38 am

Playing with a controller on PC I now realized that the original Borderlands didn't have snap to target when aiming. It wasn't really an issue, but it's make B2 a bit easier.

Man, Handsome Jack is a psychopath!

Spoiler:

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:41 am

Exodor wrote: Installing now - along with about 37 different versions of .NET.

#18 is requiring a reboot. Gah.

EzeKieL · Post by **EzeKieL** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:43 am

This is so unfaaaair, it only unlocks the 21st in Europe >_<

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:57 am

Well, this and Torchlight 2 are both available today and can't play anything as my PC just died

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:58 am

GreenGoo wrote:
Exodor wrote:Just got done playing.

It's like Borderlands, only the world is made of colors other than brown.
I'm already sold.

Then go buy it! Everyone on our old MP team has a copy, we need ONLY YOU!!!

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 10:58 am

The gas company has to come out and inspect my new furnace tomorrow.

Dang, guess I'm stuck at home playing BL2 all day.

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:01 am

Brian wrote:The gas company has to come out and inspect my new furnace tomorrow.

Dang, guess I'm stuck at home playing BL2 all day.

hehe I laid in bed for 20 minutes this morning mentally debating if I wanted to get up and go into work or just text in sick, sleep in, and get up in a few hours and play more BL2. Since it's early and I'm awake and writing this you can figure out duty finally won out (barely).

Peacedog · Post by **Peacedog** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:14 am

It's my week to be the lead support dev, so no sick days for me. The Saddest Face.

McBa1n · Post by **McBa1n** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:16 am

Chesspieceface wrote:
McBa1n wrote:Pretty fun playing for an hour or so. Same as the first one, it seems - and still quite as fun.
... But still would probably be tremendously UNfun not playing coop. Coop is always a blast with a shotgun.

EDIT - one other pain in the butt is every time I load the game, it updates the MS .net framework... Even after reboot.
PAIN IN THE BUTT! Hope that gets fixed.
Until the patch, go to your path that resembles:

C:\Program Files (x86)\Steam\steamapps\common\Borderlands 2\Binaries\Redist

and either delete or rename dotNetFx40_Client_x86_x64.exe

that will skip it until the game gets updated. Alternatively it seems you can run Steam in Admin mode to let it succeed.

Thanks for this.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:20 am

Exodor wrote:Although that's not my favorite line so far...

Spoiler:
Your ability to walk short distances without dying will be Handsome Jack's downfall!

Loved that one as well.

Cylus Maxii · Post by **Cylus Maxii** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:31 am

I'm dying to get home and play this tonight. I decided to be an adult last night and did not start playing at midnight since I knew I would be up too late.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 11:36 am

Cylus Maxii wrote:I'm dying to get home and play this tonight. I decided to be an adult last night and did not start playing at midnight since I knew I would be up too late.

Hey!! (and it was only 11pm here)

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:06 pm

Cylus Maxii wrote:I decided to be an adult last night and did not start playing at midnight since I knew I would be up too late.

Me too. So I woke up early and played for half an hour before I had to leave for work. That's sort of adult-ish, right?

miltonite · Post by **miltonite** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:07 pm

Peacedog wrote:It's my week to be the lead support dev, so no sick days for me. The Saddest Face.

We call it duty manager but I feel your pain.

Brian · Post by **Brian** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 12:07 pm

AWS260 wrote:
Cylus Maxii wrote:I decided to be an adult last night and did not start playing at midnight since I knew I would be up too late.
Me too. So I woke up early and played for half an hour before I had to leave for work. That's sort of adult-ish, right?

That is exactly what I did this morning.

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:32 pm

Read on SA

You can mark items as either favorites or trash. Favorite items can't be sold while trash items can be sold en masse.

OMG. I'm always so paranoid about selling my favorite weapon after accidentally selling my insta-kill sniper rifle in BL1.

This is great.

Has anyone seen any ammo-capacity-increasing-thingies like in Bl1? I feel like I run out of ammo really quickly even though I fill up whenever possible.

Sepiche · Post by **Sepiche** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:34 pm

Exodor wrote:Has anyone seen any ammo-capacity-increasing-thingies like in Bl1? I feel like I run out of ammo really quickly even though I fill up whenever possible.

I haven't seen anything yet up to level 7, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't in there.

Also I love the new badass reward system and the customization it allows you to do.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:39 pm

I'm not really enjoying the backpack / equipment UI. It feels like a step backwards from what I was used to in the original. I'm also completely not used to using guns that drift with a character that cannot compensate. Good lord.

EDIT: In fairness, I should probably also mention how awesome the in-game PC configuration settings are. Glad to see it's not a cluster-f like the original.

Exodor · Post by **Exodor** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 1:46 pm

Sepiche wrote:
Exodor wrote:Has anyone seen any ammo-capacity-increasing-thingies like in Bl1? I feel like I run out of ammo really quickly even though I fill up whenever possible.
I haven't seen anything yet up to level 7, but I'd be surprised if it wasn't in there.

According to SA (seriously, they have the best game threads)

Spoiler:

So that's good.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:20 pm

so.... any fix to the head bobbing?

Teggy · Post by **Teggy** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:31 pm

I've found that the gun is bobbing, but everything else is staying steady. I set my fov to 100 and I seem to be doing fine.

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:31 pm

As I said this morning, disabling the UI sway and setting the FOV to 110 seems to have fixed it (for me).

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 2:42 pm

Smoove_B wrote:As I said this morning, disabling the UI sway and setting the FOV to 110 seems to have fixed it (for me).

Weird the UI is mainly the menu system (according to the notes when you hover over the opion) but will try it!

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:24 pm

Wow, I had missed that they de-emphasized having a 'correct weapon' for each build. I may change my approach!

Grifman · Post by **Grifman** » Tue Sep 18, 2012 3:42 pm

Went ahead and bought the Season Pass at GMG for $24. Can't go wrong at $6/DLC based upon their track record.