Re: The insurrection committee's public hearings
Posted: Tue Jun 21, 2022 9:58 pm
Anus flavored? Sounds about right.
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gross.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:59 pmJust yesterday in Chicago:The Indiana Republican repeatedly praised the work of the “Trump-Pence” administration — just days after his former chief of staff and White House counsel testified before the House January 6 Committee that President Donald Trump had repeatedly pressured Pence to delay or reject the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, something Pence refused to do.
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Pence is also doing his best to separate himself from January 6, which is fresh in the minds of Americans after hours of testimony featured on television. In his speech, Pence called January 6 “a tragic day in our nation’s capital” and called the 2020 election “divisive.”
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On Monday, Pence did his best to shift the attention to what he sees as Trump’s strengths and Biden’s weaknesses, lamenting that the work done during the previous administration is being undone. Pence blamed the Democratic president for everything from a rise in gas and food prices, to low wages, a failing stock market, high rent and the baby formula shortage.
“That confidence and pride that were once synonymous with the American people in recent years has been replaced with fear and a national anxiety,” Pence said. “So let me say, to quote the old book, ‘Fear is useless.’ What is needed is leadership grounded in American values.”
He's running a longshot campaign and knows he will need Trump's support. It's insane but there we are.
LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:59 pmJust yesterday in Chicago:The Indiana Republican repeatedly praised the work of the “Trump-Pence” administration — just days after his former chief of staff and White House counsel testified before the House January 6 Committee that President Donald Trump had repeatedly pressured Pence to delay or reject the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, something Pence refused to do.
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Pence is also doing his best to separate himself from January 6, which is fresh in the minds of Americans after hours of testimony featured on television. In his speech, Pence called January 6 “a tragic day in our nation’s capital” and called the 2020 election “divisive.”
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On Monday, Pence did his best to shift the attention to what he sees as Trump’s strengths and Biden’s weaknesses, lamenting that the work done during the previous administration is being undone. Pence blamed the Democratic president for everything from a rise in gas and food prices, to low wages, a failing stock market, high rent and the baby formula shortage.
“That confidence and pride that were once synonymous with the American people in recent years has been replaced with fear and a national anxiety,” Pence said. “So let me say, to quote the old book, ‘Fear is useless.’ What is needed is leadership grounded in American values.”
He's running a longshot campaign and knows he will need Trump's support. It's insane but there we are.
If he honestly felt that way, why would he certify the election? Why risk your immortal soul to follow man's laws against God's and put the tools of Satan in power?LordMortis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 am
I'm not sure about that. I think Pence is full blown Calvinist and Calvinists with power always think they are elect. He is trying to do what it right through his zealot lens. Pence is looking out for Pence' place in heaven. He's a believer. And believers seem to be convinced that democrats are somehow associated with Armageddon and Armageddon and Rapture are naturally coming in your lifetime when you are believer. I mean look at what is going on Ukraine if you need proof of end of times. Trump is not Pence' savior but the democrats are a tool of Satan.
Because he knew it was legit. The laws of God may be higher than the laws of man but bearing false witness is still a sin.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:28 amIf he honestly felt that way, why would he certify the election? Why risk your immortal soul to follow man's laws against God's and put the tools of Satan in power?LordMortis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 am
I'm not sure about that. I think Pence is full blown Calvinist and Calvinists with power always think they are elect. He is trying to do what it right through his zealot lens. Pence is looking out for Pence' place in heaven. He's a believer. And believers seem to be convinced that democrats are somehow associated with Armageddon and Armageddon and Rapture are naturally coming in your lifetime when you are believer. I mean look at what is going on Ukraine if you need proof of end of times. Trump is not Pence' savior but the democrats are a tool of Satan.
My working theory is that Pence knew that the election was legit and was worried about legal consequences for him if he was involved in trying to overturn it.LordMortis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:21 pmBecause he knew it was legit. The laws of God may be higher than the laws of man but bearing false witness is still a sin.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:28 amIf he honestly felt that way, why would he certify the election? Why risk your immortal soul to follow man's laws against God's and put the tools of Satan in power?LordMortis wrote: ↑Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 am
I'm not sure about that. I think Pence is full blown Calvinist and Calvinists with power always think they are elect. He is trying to do what it right through his zealot lens. Pence is looking out for Pence' place in heaven. He's a believer. And believers seem to be convinced that democrats are somehow associated with Armageddon and Armageddon and Rapture are naturally coming in your lifetime when you are believer. I mean look at what is going on Ukraine if you need proof of end of times. Trump is not Pence' savior but the democrats are a tool of Satan.
Honestly, you would be surprised. The main asset that a lot of people in this brought to the table is more ruthlessness than brains.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
They let a documentary crew follow them around. These were not the best and brightest at criming.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:48 pmHonestly, you would be surprised. The main asset that a lot of people in this brought to the table is more ruthlessness than brains.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
If they won it wouldn't matter.stessier wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:56 pmThey let a documentary crew follow them around. These were not the best and brightest at criming.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:48 pmHonestly, you would be surprised. The main asset that a lot of people in this brought to the table is more ruthlessness than brains.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
Keep in mind, this is the guy that set himself apart from the rest of the group by:LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
On Thursday, we noted that during a trip aboard Air Force One, a scheduled interview between Holder and Trump was abruptly canceled. Holder told us a bit more about that trip, and it turns out to be much more interesting than we knew.
Holder traveled with then-President Trump on Sunday, Oct. 25, three days after the second presidential debate and nine days before Election Day. That day, Trump flew from Washington to New Hampshire, then on to Maine, and then back to Washington. But WH COS MARK MEADOWS told Holder that something had come up and the planned interview was nixed.
“My memory is,” Holder told us, “that the chief of staff sort of came over and said that the interview couldn't happen today because the president was on the phone. And I believe, if I remember correctly, that he said that he was on the phone to the president of Russia, VLADIMIR PUTIN, which is why the interview had to be postponed.”...
...One explanation could be that Trump and Putin were reportedly trying to negotiate an arms control agreement, as Axios’ Dave Lawler and Alayna Treene reported on Oct. 11, 2020. And indeed, on Oct. 26, the Kremlin released a statement about its views on several security issues in Europe.
But one top Trump official involved in those talks told POLITICO that he had no recollection of a Trump-Putin call during that period.
However, there was some other news breaking that Sunday related to Putin that certainly would have caught Trump’s attention.
At the debate in Nashville days earlier, Trump had accused JOE BIDEN of receiving millions of dollars through some kind of corrupt scheme involving HUNTER BIDEN’s alleged business dealings in Ukraine and Moscow — accusations that were the cornerstone of Trump’s case against Biden in the final days of the 2020 campaign.
But that Sunday, Putin undercut Trump and said that as far as he knew, the allegations were nonsense. Sputnik, a Russian state-controlled media outlet, tweeted the news at 8:40 a.m. But it wasn’t until later in the day, when Trump was wrapping up a rally in New Hampshire, that the news broke through in the American press.
Not to shit all over your post, but I personally can't wait until we get past the wonderment stage. It's soooo late for shock at the audacity that it's almost comical.
I don't disagree in general, but Kasich has been one of the most consistent anti-Trump Republicans (among other things, spoke at the DNC in 2020). So it's not like he's all of the sudden like "wait, Trump is a bad person??".Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:01 pmNot to shit all over your post, but I personally can't wait until we get past the wonderment stage. It's soooo late for shock at the audacity that it's almost comical.
I'm not even close to being some kind of political insider, much less an actual or previous politician with connections, so this reaction, to me, seems a bit..disengenuous at best? NOW you're shocked?? Just now?
I guess it's possible that some pols were really waiting to see what a hearing would bring up instead of coming to their own conclusions just based on what they saw and read, but...come on.