setaside wrote:Interesting that the ever silent Nameless pops up the moment he finds out CG is one vote away from lynching to cast the final vote (8 minutes after Lars' post as a matter of fact).
If there is no death tonight, then I am cursed. Before that happens, I'm calling Nameless a wolf. Call it my last push for the village.
setaside wrote:Wait ... CG cleared Nameless didn't he?
Then my suspicion is definitely Chaos.
These are from the day before Kelric was killed in the night, when we (FINALLY) hung ChrisGrenard.
The choices we were given were Ralph-Wiggum and Chaosraven as the Unscanned. Which pr0ner of course bought into, having been on CGs side since night two.
Chaosraven wrote:Interesting idea here...
if setaside was "cursed" we would hold off on lynching him, right?
our strategy involved letting the "Proven NonWolf Cursed Guy scanned by the Seer" live *until* a night went by with no kill, yes?
So the "Seer" and the "Cursed" would keep on living... today (assuming the Village had decided to Lynch either Ralph or I) and today there would have been "Seer(wolf)", "Cursed", and pr0ner all buddy buddy. Needing only one sucker to play patsy with an early vote for someone...
...and Bang. Vote reaches Majority, lynch kill win.
This is me, that morning.
Chaosraven wrote:First List
Kraegor - Dead. Innocent
Kelric - Dead. Mason
Mr. Bubbles - Alive, ID'd innocent by Wolf
setaside - Alive, ID'd Cursed villager by Wolf
Ralph-Wiggum - not ID'd
Remus West - Dead. Medium.
Second List
Kraegor - Dead. Innocent
setaside - Alive, ID'd Cursed villager by Wolf
Remus West - Dead. Medium.
These were the lists that people were using when pr0ner put forth the "Didn't vote for LordMortis" strategy.
I then asked him why he wasn't voting for setaside based on his own strategy.
This added to my belief that pr0ner was the sorcerer.
IIRC these lists were Who Didn't Vote for LM but DID vote for Zurai.
Chaosraven wrote:
First Day: LynchMortis (WOLF)
SirReal - Zurai, Nameless, Lassr, LordMortis
LordMortis - Nameless, Bakhtosh, pr0ner, Kelric, Lassr, Cesare, Mr Bubbles, SirReal
ChrisGrenard - Nameless, LordMortis
setaside - Nameless, Kelric, Nameless, Cesare, SirReal
chaosraven - PR_GMR, ChrisGrenard, SirReal, LordMortis, LordMortis
Ralph-Wiggum - Chaosraven (joke vote), SirReal
Mr Bubbles - Remus West, SirReal
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Second Day: Lynch Zurai (NonWolf)
SirReal - Kraegor, Zurai
ChrisGrenard - Chaosraven, Zurai
chaosraven - pr0ner, Bakhtosh
setaside - Zurai, Remus West, Kraegor, tru1cy, Zurai
Mr Bubbles - Zurai
Ralph-Wiggum - Zurai, Remus West
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Third Day: Lynch SirReal (WOLF)
SirReal - Kraegor
ChrisGrenard - Kraegor
Mr Bubbles - Remus West, Kraegor, Kraegor, SirReal
Chaosraven - Cesare,
Ralph-Wiggum - SirReal
setaside - no vote
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Fourth Day: Lynch Kraegor (Innocent)
ChrisGrenard - Kraegor
Mr Bubbles - Kraegor
Chaosraven - ChrisGrenard
Ralph-Wiggum - Kraegor
setaside - no vote
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Fifth Day: Lynch Bakhtosh (NonWolf)
ChrisGrenard - no vote
Mr Bubbles - Bakhtosh
Chaosraven - Bakhtosh
setaside - Bakhtosh
Ralph-Wiggum - Bakhtosh
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Sixth Day: Lynch ChrisG (WOLF)
Ralph-Wiggum - ChrisGrenard
setaside - ChrisGrenard
Chaosraven - ChrisGrenard, ChrisGrenard
Mr Bubbles - ChrisGrenard
This was my post regarding his posting habits.
I am not going to dig up all his earlier "suspicions" of who could be Sorcerer... except to note that when the LM discussion was underway, suddenly the possibility of Wolves in this game returned to the front of his mind.
X could be sorcerer, Y could be sorcerer, Z could be sorcerer.
LM could be sorcerer or wolf.
Hmmmm.
X,Y, and Z would have Lynched as Human (or in the case of Grund was eaten by the Wolves already) so we would have to have a Priest ID the bodies.
Yet LM was the one he noted could also be a Wolf.
Nameless wrote:My immediate suspicion was setaside, due primarily to ChrisGrenard's naming of him as the cursed. That would tend to make us less suspicious of setaside than others. On the other hand, he must have known he couldn't pull off the seer act for long, so he might have named setaside as cursed specifically so we'd go along this route.
And you guys hung him.
setaside wrote:I've got to go with my gut on this one. It's a toss up between Mr B and Nameless.
Nameless
Starting with this vote.
At this point the only vote cast was by pr0ner for Chaosraven.
So despite the fact that pr0ners own strategy should have pointed to setaside... he votes for me.
Despite setaside 'suspecting' me at long last, he votes for Nameless.
setaside wrote:You know what sucks about this ...
The wolves know the roles of those they've eaten. If the wolves have nabbed any special, they all of a sudden have a last minute out to use in an attempt to save their own hides.
This sucks.
Exactly what LordMortis and SirReal were discussing "in Public"
So funny enough despite the NUMBER of NONWOLVES playing this game...
...hmmm... who brings it up as "Unfair to the Poor Old Townsfolk"?
Berserker Wolf and Wolf and... setaside? The only "good guy" who feels it important to complain about the rules of the game?
Much of this stuff is On Pages 65 and 66 when I was trying to explain why I would not vote for Nameless.
Last note:
Why did the Wolf choose to have setaside as "cursed"?
I think it is because we would hold off on hanging the cursed player for a day after a night with no kill. I think it is because we would continue to let the "Seer" live as he had not given us a Wolf.
And honestly I think CG could have lasted right up until today if he hadn't left me as (1) an uneaten Villager (2) one of the final two that HAD to be wolves.
Setaside