That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
I love you man, but if you didn't get the pm invite about it...
I mean, you can't be all that surprised after what you did at the last one. Do you even remember what you did?! Hint: Rubik's Cube, several merkins, and firecrackers. I won't go into detail.He was just channeling his inner Brett O'Cavanaugh. Probably best he stays out of the conversation since it causes him such agita and upsets his delicate constitution. If you're not enjoying the company, better to go elsewhere where you're more comfortable. Perhaps hooking up with those folks that were behind Trump while he was respectfully pointing out inconsistencies in Dr. Ford's testimony is more his thing?
Of course his actions are what are important, but this is a pretty bold rebuke of the president from a Nebraska Republican-El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:32 pmThat article calling Sasse's quote a "bombshell" is absurd - I have to assume that the author is unfamiliar with what bombs are. All he says is that he suggested that Trump pick someone else, preferably a woman. BFD, Sasse, we are all *so* impressed that you wanted him to pick a woman.Alefroth wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:26 pmHard to believe, but Sasse might also be a ray of hope.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:56 pm Well, that's some ray of hope, I suppose. I will say, of the GOP 'flakes' (so to speak, Murkowski seems like the most serious one.
Also, more broadly, while I would bet on Kavanaugh getting confirmed at this point, this is not over. We're two days from a plausible confirmation vote, which doesn't *seem* like much, but a lot of people are going to be scrambling during that time to do what they can.
My guess right now is that there's ~ 70% chance that Kavanaugh gets confirmed. Strong favorite, significant doubt / risk.
https://www.businessinsider.com/republi ... se-2018-10
Notably, it doesn't say anything even hinting that he's going to vote no on who Trump actually nominated. And Sasse, to my knowledge, has done literally nothing of note contrary to GOP leadership or Trump's wishes to date, so the odds that he's going to do so now are .0000001%.
This article is much more complete-Ben Sasse wrote:We all know that the president cannot lead us through this time.
We know that he is dispositionally unable to restrain his impulse to divide us.
His mockery of Dr. Ford last night in Mississippi was wrong — but it doesn’t really surprise anyone. It’s who he is.
ehhhh, that's nothing that he hasn't said before. Wake me when he actually does something about any of it.Alefroth wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:39 pmOf course his actions are what are important, but this is a pretty bold rebuke of the president from a Nebraska Republican-El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:32 pmThat article calling Sasse's quote a "bombshell" is absurd - I have to assume that the author is unfamiliar with what bombs are. All he says is that he suggested that Trump pick someone else, preferably a woman. BFD, Sasse, we are all *so* impressed that you wanted him to pick a woman.Alefroth wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:26 pmHard to believe, but Sasse might also be a ray of hope.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 1:56 pm Well, that's some ray of hope, I suppose. I will say, of the GOP 'flakes' (so to speak, Murkowski seems like the most serious one.
Also, more broadly, while I would bet on Kavanaugh getting confirmed at this point, this is not over. We're two days from a plausible confirmation vote, which doesn't *seem* like much, but a lot of people are going to be scrambling during that time to do what they can.
My guess right now is that there's ~ 70% chance that Kavanaugh gets confirmed. Strong favorite, significant doubt / risk.
https://www.businessinsider.com/republi ... se-2018-10
Notably, it doesn't say anything even hinting that he's going to vote no on who Trump actually nominated. And Sasse, to my knowledge, has done literally nothing of note contrary to GOP leadership or Trump's wishes to date, so the odds that he's going to do so now are .0000001%.
This article is much more complete-Ben Sasse wrote:We all know that the president cannot lead us through this time.
We know that he is dispositionally unable to restrain his impulse to divide us.
His mockery of Dr. Ford last night in Mississippi was wrong — but it doesn’t really surprise anyone. It’s who he is.
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900 ... -time.html
So, in my defense, I thought all that stuff were references to flatulence. Everyone needs to spell out the meanings of the key phrases much more clearly.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:35 pmI love you man, but if you didn't get the pm invite about it...
Perhaps some self-reflection and soul searching is in order.
I want to believeAlefroth wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:39 pm This article is much more complete-
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900 ... -time.html
Don't get it twisted, man. You don't hog the boofing, you boof the hog.
My big problem with the divide as it stands is that to the right, support for gay marriage, tolerance towards all races/genders, and caring about the environment/believing in the scientific method are symptoms of being *far* left. In essence, anything that does not adhere to a white male Christian worldview is suddenly "far left."GreenGoo wrote:This is not a neutral forum. But it is not a far left safe haven. That msd (and others) view it as such is a clear indication of where politics are today in the US.
This is a pretty vivid look into the radical conservative echo chamber.msduncan wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 3:22 pm Kurth
The answer is no. We are long past the point where we can just disagree. We have Yellowking of all people proclaiming Republicans as terroists. We have people doxing Republican senators. We have Ricin being mailed to Republicans. We have violent confrontations being perpetrated by our Marxist Antifa friends.
It's hard not engage with fullblown whataboutism when you see that sort of attack but then it's suddenly if you are trying to defend behavior that shouldn't be defended... So you step back and don't engage (and delete your post...LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:48 pm Yes some (most?) of these things have happened. But they are rare occurrences and limited to fringe outliers and/or agitators. Yet to some they are a relentless plague that can justify any number of beliefs and practices that would otherwise be unthinkable.
)We can get started as soon as we have everyone's consent forms in.Chaz wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:47 pmDon't get it twisted, man. You don't hog the boofing, you boof the hog.
I'll answer for MSD since he can't handle responses, and prefers sniping and running like a snowflake.YellowKing wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:48 pmI wish folks like MSD could take a big step back - ignore the policies and the labels - and really question what they're supporting, and whether it aligns with their morals. Do you really want to support a President that lies multiple times daily. Blatantly. And tries to convince you that his lies are the truth even when you can easily disprove them yourself. Is that the example of leadership you want your kids to follow? Do you want your daughters led by a man who sees them as sexual objects he can "grab by the pussy?" Is that worth a tax cut and some gun control protection?
I won't hold my breath, but me too. I don't see how someone could give a speech like that and still plan to vote yes.LordMortis wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:45 pmI want to believeAlefroth wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 4:39 pm This article is much more complete-
https://www.deseretnews.com/article/900 ... -time.html
And so the kingdom of Gondor sank into ruin, the line of kings failed, the white tree withered and the rule of Gondor was given over to lesser men.Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:24 pm Not sure how much it helps, but last night during my weekly late evening commute, I was listening to NJ talk radio - a station that tends to swing conservative/Republican for most shows. Anyway, call after call was about how the Democrats are obstructionist terrorists (their words, true story) and that all this is just payback for Garland and losing the Presidential election. I was both angry and confused at the way the self-identified Republicans calling in were representing the Kavanaugh situation - repeating that 6 investigations had been completed, this was all 30+ years ago, Dr. Ford isn't a credible witness, Democrats are terrorists, no man is safe now, etc... it was like they were all reading from the same memo. Now I know the calls are screened and they're likely picking people with all the same general thoughts, but I was truly kerpuzzled to hear call after call expressing vitriol over the Democrats and what they've done to politics.
I'm at the point now where I honestly don't think there's recovery from this, at least not in my lifetime.
Yup - welcome to the dark side. The only way to break this sort of fever will be a disaster. And it is hard to imagine it won't come. One of many big downsides of this shit storm is that only incompetent, mendacious people will apply to "serve". Eventually we're going to get a bad break and it'll probably become a horrible one out of pure mismanagement.
If we really want to go grimdark, here’s some cheery Yeats.Zaxxon wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:28 pmAnd so the kingdom of Gondor sank into ruin, the line of kings failed, the white tree withered and the rule of Gondor was given over to lesser men.Smoove_B wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 5:24 pm Not sure how much it helps, but last night during my weekly late evening commute, I was listening to NJ talk radio - a station that tends to swing conservative/Republican for most shows. Anyway, call after call was about how the Democrats are obstructionist terrorists (their words, true story) and that all this is just payback for Garland and losing the Presidential election. I was both angry and confused at the way the self-identified Republicans calling in were representing the Kavanaugh situation - repeating that 6 investigations had been completed, this was all 30+ years ago, Dr. Ford isn't a credible witness, Democrats are terrorists, no man is safe now, etc... it was like they were all reading from the same memo. Now I know the calls are screened and they're likely picking people with all the same general thoughts, but I was truly kerpuzzled to hear call after call expressing vitriol over the Democrats and what they've done to politics.
I'm at the point now where I honestly don't think there's recovery from this, at least not in my lifetime.
The Second Coming
Turning and turning in the widening gyre
The falcon cannot hear the falconer;
Things fall apart; the centre cannot hold;
Mere anarchy is loosed upon the world,
The blood-dimmed tide is loosed, and everywhere
The ceremony of innocence is drowned;
The best lack all conviction, while the worst
Are full of passionate intensity.
Surely some revelation is at hand;
Surely the Second Coming is at hand.
The Second Coming! Hardly are those words out
When a vast image out of Spiritus Mundi
Troubles my sight: somewhere in sands of the desert
A shape with lion body and the head of a man,
A gaze blank and pitiless as the sun,
Is moving its slow thighs, while all about it
Reel shadows of the indignant desert birds.
The darkness drops again; but now I know
That twenty centuries of stony sleep
Were vexed to nightmare by a rocking cradle,
And what rough beast, its hour come round at last,
Slouches towards Bethlehem to be born?
Well, such a fuss certainly didn’t happen for the last nominee. I wonder what’s different...?
And yet he led with a diatribe against the Democrats who were getting revenge on behalf of the Clintons. What to believe, what to believe...Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Thu Oct 04, 2018 10:33 pm So Kavanaugh decided the thing to do was write an Op ed in the WSJ. TL;DR version: “I’ll be much more impartial than I showed in the hearing last week. Trust me!”
There isn’t an eye roll emoji large enough.
And there was another participant that day who was reluctantly there as a daughter, wife and mother and she showed more courage and poise then this entitled prick.Yes, I was emotional last Thursday. I hope everyone can understand I was there as a son, husband and dad.
I haven't accused some of my interviewers of having a hostile agenda against me during the interview process.
On that note, regardless of how one feels about how Kavanaugh has been treated, either fairly or unfairly, if he were just a shmoe interviewing for a mid-level managerial job, what percentage of interviewers would give him said job based on his behavior and the allegations against him? I would say 0.0000 percent.
