The Parasite -GAME OVER-Town wins

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:08 pm

Unagi wrote:You mean Remus and Me? I think that's it.... although I was part of your "please kill me" band wagon at the start....

I really thought I had Newcastle this time. I'm starting to think the wolves are more obvious.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:16 pm

You know I'm trying to figure out what advantage you as infected might get from a Berserker charge on Day 1 spoofing the Protector, Scoop? Being able to block the Seer, draw out the Protector and set up the Berserker might be the high risk, high reward play you love.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Tue Aug 29, 2017 10:43 pm

Zarathud wrote:You know I'm trying to figure out what advantage you as infected might get from a Berserker charge on Day 1 spoofing the Protector, Scoop? Being able to block the Seer, draw out the Protector and set up the Berserker might be the high risk, high reward play you love.

You think the baddies are going to try and take another run at me tomorrow?

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Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 6:28 am

Unagi wrote:
Zarathud wrote:Infected might be able to block a scan of Scoop. The Seer should instead scan someone who called for Scoop to be scanned.
That's a good point to bring up. I HIGHLY doubt that someone picked that role - but true enough.

I assume that the 2 minions picked: Zerker and Scanner

What role did the Alpha pick?

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:01 am

Scoop20906 wrote:
Zarathud wrote:You know I'm trying to figure out what advantage you as infected might get from a Berserker charge on Day 1 spoofing the Protector, Scoop? Being able to block the Seer, draw out the Protector and set up the Berserker might be the high risk, high reward play you love.
You think the baddies are going to try and take another run at me tomorrow?

Now THIS is trying too hard.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:07 am

Holman wrote:
Scoop20906 wrote:
Zarathud wrote:You know I'm trying to figure out what advantage you as infected might get from a Berserker charge on Day 1 spoofing the Protector, Scoop? Being able to block the Seer, draw out the Protector and set up the Berserker might be the high risk, high reward play you love.
You think the baddies are going to try and take another run at me tomorrow?
Now THIS is trying too hard.

I don't think so. I'm pretty show the wolves were on my bandwagon which fizzled. Why won't they try again tomorrow? Its WIN-WIN-WIN if they can get my killed during the day because I doubt they are going to want to waste a night kill on an unpowered villager.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:12 am

It is night and if your name isn't El G, you probably shouldn't be posting too hard. El G, however, should post any of his last thoughts since he is most likely to get it tonight.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:31 am

Holman wrote:
Unagi wrote:
Zarathud wrote:Infected might be able to block a scan of Scoop. The Seer should instead scan someone who called for Scoop to be scanned.
That's a good point to bring up. I HIGHLY doubt that someone picked that role - but true enough.

I assume that the 2 minions picked: Zerker and Scanner
What role did the Alpha pick?

I thought the alpha role was being the alpha?

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:31 am

nevermind he does select a role.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:25 am

bb2112 wrote:It is night and if your name isn't El G, you probably shouldn't be posting too hard. El G, however, should post any of his last thoughts since he is most likely to get it tonight.

Wait a minute...

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:26 am

Is "it" a fabulous prize?

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:34 am

But seriously, I don't have any information that's not available to everyone else here. I supported lynching Scoop on day 1 as a low risk high reward option, but that may not make sense day 2 as more information becomes available. Otherwise, my recommendation would be to lynch the wolves and to not lynch the seer.

Oh, and my other thought is that fortune cookies are bullshit.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:46 am

El Guapo wrote:But seriously, I don't have any information that's not available to everyone else here. I supported lynching Scoop on day 1 as a low risk high reward option, but that may not make sense day 2 as more information becomes available. Otherwise, my recommendation would be to lynch the wolves and to not lynch the seer.

Oh, and my other thought is that fortune cookies are bullshit.

I agree with what I, er HE, is saying here.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 11:44 am

Vorret wrote:
Holman wrote:
Unagi wrote:
Zarathud wrote:Infected might be able to block a scan of Scoop. The Seer should instead scan someone who called for Scoop to be scanned.
That's a good point to bring up. I HIGHLY doubt that someone picked that role - but true enough.

I assume that the 2 minions picked: Zerker and Scanner
What role did the Alpha pick?
I thought the alpha role was being the alpha?

I missed that too.

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 1:51 pm

Man, I don't believe either of you guys. I smell a con.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:05 pm

Holman wrote:Man, I don't believe either of you guys. I smell a con.

Yeah, I almost didn't share my reply because I thought someone would say that.
Still - it's honest, and should be taken as proof that I'm not a wolf.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 2:17 pm

Holman wrote:Man, I don't believe either of you guys. I smell a con.

Oh come on, I'm always super honest!

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:39 pm

Vorret wrote:Oh come on, I'm a conniving moose riding Canadian, eh! You're right not to trust me, eh.

Thanks for being super honest. Appreciated.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 3:50 pm

Man can you imagine if we had Moose cavalry how intense wars would have been back in the days.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:01 pm

Vorret wrote:Man can you imagine if we had Moose cavalry how intense wars would have been back in the days.

You didn't? I could have sworn U.S. textbooks said the only reason you won the War of 1812 is because of the moose cavalry.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:07 pm

The funny thing is the wolves almost never have the courage to interact with each other much during a game.

Which is why I always try to make sure my teammates get killed.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 4:42 pm

Another rule with the exception of you, Scoop.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 5:40 pm

Y'all sure are chatty at "night".

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:10 pm

Morning-Day 2

As everyone gathers at the town center, dark clouds begin to gather on the horizon. A storm was approaching. Grundbegriff begins directing everyone into the Council Hall. “Come on everyone, get in before it starts raining.” As the last one enters Grundbegriff’s realizes two are missing. He looks around for El Guapo. Just as he feared, he is missing. “Who is missing besides El Guapo?”

A murmur starts through the crowd. “I don’t see Scoop,” Zarathud blurts out.

About that time there is a banging at the door. Moliere rushes over and sees a wet Scoop through the glass. Moliere unlatches the door.

Scoop rushes in. “El Guapo’s dead. Found him face down on the sidewalk. I thought his face was ripped up but he had landed into this cup of Moe’s salsa.” Scoop holds up the crushed cup. “Not sure if this is a clue or not so I brought it along.”

“It’s the parasites. I think we all know they killed him.” Punisher says. “he probably was just eating the salsa when he died.”

Scoop nods, “Yea, probably so.” He licks his finger. “Hmmm, I think it’s the El Guapo flavored salsa.”

Someone in the crowd snickers.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:12 pm

Players ----------- Voted For:
1 Vorret----------
2 Holman--------
3 BB2112---------
4 Scoop----------
5 Archinerd-----
6 Zarathud-------
7 Punisher-------
8 Unagi-----------
9 Remus West---
10 RMC------------
11 Grundbegriff--
12 Moliere--------
.
.
Targets ----------- Voters
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( )--- ---
( )---
( )---
( )--- ---

Deaths
Newcastle---- Peace out
El Guapo----- Salsaed

Majority = 7

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 8:25 pm

Well that was predictable anyway.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:00 pm

Least surprising murder ever.

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:32 pm

Never let Scoop out of your sight. And don't feed him after midnight.

Scoop

My reasons should be no surprise. I'll step off if Scoop was scanned or otherwise proves his innocence.

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:34 pm

Scoop20906

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 9:45 pm

Dammit. I don't know whether I want the Seer to reveal or not. All we would learn is whether Scoop (presumably) is Wolf or Villager. We wouldn't get a read on whether he's the Berzerker.

Holding off voting on Scoop for discussion.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Wed Aug 30, 2017 10:47 pm

Scoop is Scoop. I say hold off on voting for him, and look for someone else today.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:03 am

okay this is dumb as fuck we don't vote for Scoop since he could be the beserker and now morliere and zeerteethud are voting for him?
Is this real life?

Zarathud · Post by **Zarathud** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:22 am

Resolving Scoop made more sense to me than Newcastle. I still don't understand waiting to kill a likely wolf early in the game. The longer we wait, the better the berserker can target. The greater odds of losing the shooter to a night kill.

But if you have a better target, speak up. I'm sure the others want to hear.

Archinerd · Post by **Archinerd** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 12:50 am

Part of the deal for leaving Scoop alive was so he could be scanned instead. It's a waste of day if we lynch him today.
Punisher

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:10 am

When choosing between a random villager (statistically more likely to hit an innocent) and a likely wolf I choose the wolf, even if he might be a Berserker.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 1:26 am

Archinerd wrote:Part of the deal for leaving Scoop alive was so he could be scanned instead. It's a waste of day if we lynch him today.
Punisher

I agree to the first part of your statement, but not the last line... so..
Archinerd

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:50 am

Ok, Newcastle was a miss. Zarathud and Moliere are still beating on the Scoop drum even when the rest of the village said to let that mess sit for a minute. Would a wolf be that forward and unrelenting to go after Scoop so soon after we collectively said no and went a different way? I am thinking probably not. Misguided villagers with only one thought in their heads, maybe.

I would like to look at those that were on the Scoop vote and then moved. But I will have to look later. I'm pretty busy at work right now.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:52 am

RMC wrote:Well that was predictable anyway.

Well, the wolves did not deviate from their kill, which means they didn't find the seer night one. So the seer should now have 2 scans.

Punisher · Post by **Punisher** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 8:53 am

bb2112 wrote:
RMC wrote:Well that was predictable anyway.
Well, the wolves did not deviate from their kill, which means they didn't find the seer night one. So the seer should now have 2 scans.

but does that mean it's worth the seer coming out? I'd think no, unless the seer happened to get 2 wolf scans in a row...

Holman · Post by **Holman** » Thu Aug 31, 2017 9:33 am

Thinking out loud again...

The seer will have two scans already. If one's a Wolf, a shooter (hopefully) could come out and kill them, and then we would have three provens (Seer, Shooter, remaining scan) in a field of 11 players (9/2) before today's lynch.

However, suppose the Seer found Scoop to be a Villager? We would have three provens (Seer, Scoop, remaining scan) in a field of 12 (10/2) prior to the lynch, and we would also have another Special still hidden. We would avoid the mistake of lynching Scoop, at least.

I'm not sure those odds are good enough. Or are they?

On the other hand, if we were to lynch Scoop today, and if our Seer survived the night, tomorrow the Seer could come out with three scans (presumably one having been Scoop). We would have three provens (Seer and two scans) (unless the Seer caught another Wolf, in which case this is easy) in a field of 10 players, with hopefully the other Special still safely hidden.

Of course the problems with this option are:
What if Scoop is not a Wolf?
What if he's the Berserker?
What if they find or kill the Seer or other Special overnight?

Does waiting make the odds much better?