Re: [Health] The Infectious Diseases Thread
Posted: Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:10 am
The videos I saw of the procedure made it look like a human blockhead act. "Oh, so that's how the ancient Egyptians extracted the brain for burial."
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Per FDA guidelines, this method is "acceptable" - but for symptomatic patients only. I believe the current theory still holds that for someone who's asymptomatic or presymptomatic, there may not be enough concentration of the virus in the nasal cavity to register on the PCR.hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 12:05 am I am having questions about the effiectiveness of the covid 19 test as administered by the ZoomCare clinic I went to tonight (one of those 'urgent care' kinda setups). i was brought into the exam room and handed what looked like a normal double-ended cotton swab (the kind that you [don't] clean your ears with) and was told I would be 'self-administering' the collection. at no point was I told to sanitize my hands for this procedure. i was told to insert the swab about an inch into each nostril and swirl it two or three times. i stuck it up my nose about that much and asked if that really was far enough (i have had nasal subsection surgery twice and the upper inside of my left nostril is very raw and sensitive to this day) and i was assured it was.
my question is, is this really effective? if so, why were the procurement of the longer (six inch) swabs such a big deal in the early days of the covid 19 pandemic? it was mentioned in many news outlets that normal sized cotton swabs would _not_ work.
Kids are just not allowed if they have any symptoms of anything whatsoever. They were notified Monday that the kids have symptoms since we kept them home. I'm not sure if they take any extra measures, as they already do a lot of deep cleaning, etc. Parents are not allowed in the daycare at all these days - it's a drop off at the door with temp check. Obviously if the oldest tests positive we'll let them know immediately.ImLawBoy wrote:What's the protocol with their daycare? Have you notified them? Do they have to do any extra monitoring or deep cleaning?
I hate you. You don't need to feed my aversion to parents of young children at every turn. You're supposed to come here and tell YK I'm overly paranoid and herd immunity good or some such thing.I strongly suspect that kids are probably spreading other things that haven't been circulating because of the closure of schools and daycare, but now that contact has resumed, more common viral diseases are spreading again.
The human body is just a way for a virus to make more viruses. Maybe we exist for them?LordMortis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:47 pmI hate you. You don't need to feed my aversion to parents of young children at every turn. You're supposed to come here and tell YK I'm overly paranoid and herd immunity good or some such thing.
Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:21 pm The wife and I got our tests done today.
It was...unpleasant...but not particularly painful or anything.
For the test they basically rammed a swab so far up my nose that I saw stars. Wife was phased more than I was and said she'd prefer never having to do that again.
We should have our results by Friday.
I for one welcome our new viral overlords.Smoove_B wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:51 pmThe human body is just a way for a virus to make more viruses. Maybe we exist for them?LordMortis wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 1:47 pmI hate you. You don't need to feed my aversion to parents of young children at every turn. You're supposed to come here and tell YK I'm overly paranoid and herd immunity good or some such thing.
/bong hit
Has anyone verified if it's possible to have a cold and COVID-19 at the same time? Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?
How would you ever know? Many symptoms overlap, and it's not like you can test for a cold.gameoverman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:26 pmHas anyone verified if it's possible to have a cold and COVID-19 at the same time? Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?
We've done the opposite, we put in a 2nd mircrowave even though almost no one is in office. No more than a total of six people can be in the kitchen and that capacity is reached if only if one person is starting prep, one is finishing prep, one actively prepping, and three are at their own table. People were discouraged from eating at their desks before. Now they are encouraged. I've never been in to work where we've had more than 7 people in at a time. We have a lot of rules now that are what they are and I like most of them, as I am high risk and paranoid, but I hate touch-less sinks.hitbyambulance wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 4:07 am went through the 'return to work' materials today - sounds like being in the office would be a real pain (e.g. only one working microwave and refrigerator, and they're on on a different floor) and given the choice, i'll keep working at home
So the lab texted our results at 10:30pm. Negative.Brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:10 pmBrian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:21 pm The wife and I got our tests done today.
It was...unpleasant...but not particularly painful or anything.
For the test they basically rammed a swab so far up my nose that I saw stars. Wife was phased more than I was and said she'd prefer never having to do that again.
We should have our results by Friday.
Still no results as of this morning.
Assuming that, even though we got tested on Wednesday, the lab didn't get our samples until Thursday morning, and then allowing them the 3-5 business days (we were only told 3-5 days but we'll assume business days), we should get our results no later than tomorrow afternoon.
Probably chugging 24 hours a day. I'm sure someone out there is going 3:00am? Really? WTF?Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:24 amSo the lab texted our results at 10:30pm. Negative.Brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:10 pmBrian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:21 pm The wife and I got our tests done today.
It was...unpleasant...but not particularly painful or anything.
For the test they basically rammed a swab so far up my nose that I saw stars. Wife was phased more than I was and said she'd prefer never having to do that again.
We should have our results by Friday.
Still no results as of this morning.
Assuming that, even though we got tested on Wednesday, the lab didn't get our samples until Thursday morning, and then allowing them the 3-5 business days (we were only told 3-5 days but we'll assume business days), we should get our results no later than tomorrow afternoon.
Seriously though, ten freakin' thirty? I mean, thanks for the results and all but, WTF?
It's been COVID the whole time?!??!!!gilraen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:30 pmHow would you ever know? Many symptoms overlap, and it's not like you can test for a cold.gameoverman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:26 pmHas anyone verified if it's possible to have a cold and COVID-19 at the same time? Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?
The 'Rona is calling from inside the house!LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:58 amIt's been COVID the whole time?!??!!!gilraen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:30 pmHow would you ever know? Many symptoms overlap, and it's not like you can test for a cold.gameoverman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:26 pmHas anyone verified if it's possible to have a cold and COVID-19 at the same time? Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?
Indeed, and (non-novel) human coronaviruses are known to be associated with the common cold:gilraen wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 7:30 pmHow would you ever know? Many symptoms overlap, and it's not like you can test for a cold.gameoverman wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 6:26 pmHas anyone verified if it's possible to have a cold and COVID-19 at the same time? Has anyone ever seen them in the same room together?
Wikipedia.org wrote:Cause - Viruses
Coronaviruses are a group of viruses known for causing the common cold. They have a halo or crown-like (corona) appearance when viewed under an electron microscope.
The common cold is a viral infection of the upper respiratory tract. The most commonly implicated virus is a rhinovirus (30–80%), a type of picornavirus with 99 known serotypes. Other commonly implicated viruses include human coronaviruses (≈ 15%), influenza viruses (10–15%), adenoviruses (5%), human respiratory syncytial virus (orthopneumovirus), enteroviruses other than rhinoviruses, human parainfluenza viruses, and human metapneumovirus. Frequently more than one virus is present. In total, more than 200 viral types are associated with colds.
Grupo Insoma's Hand Sanitizer Gel Unscented, 70% alcohol)
Transliquid Technologies' Mystic Shield Protection Hand Sanitizer
Soluciones Cosmeticas' Bersih Hand Sanitizer Gel Fragrance Free and Antiseptic Alcohol 70% Topical Solution Hand Sanitizer
Tropicosmeticos' Britz Hand Sanitizer Ethyl Alcohol 70%
It should be mentioned that these should be avoided because the contain methanol instead of ethanol. Those aren't interchangeable at all.em2nought wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 10:16 am 5 additional Hand Sanitizers to avoid per the FDA
https://www.yahoo.com/news/avoid-9-hand ... 01521.html
Grupo Insoma's Hand Sanitizer Gel Unscented, 70% alcohol)
Transliquid Technologies' Mystic Shield Protection Hand Sanitizer
Soluciones Cosmeticas' Bersih Hand Sanitizer Gel Fragrance Free and Antiseptic Alcohol 70% Topical Solution Hand Sanitizer
Tropicosmeticos' Britz Hand Sanitizer Ethyl Alcohol 70%
Mine game in 26 minutes ahead of yours. Your sister's came in at 5:40pm. (I was tested 4 minutes ahead of her, but our results were revealed almost 4.5 hours apart.) I'm guessing the labs are pretty heavily utilized.Brian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 08, 2020 8:24 amSo the lab texted our results at 10:30pm. Negative.Brian wrote: ↑Tue Jul 07, 2020 2:10 pmBrian wrote: ↑Wed Jul 01, 2020 10:21 pm The wife and I got our tests done today.
It was...unpleasant...but not particularly painful or anything.
For the test they basically rammed a swab so far up my nose that I saw stars. Wife was phased more than I was and said she'd prefer never having to do that again.
We should have our results by Friday.
Still no results as of this morning.
Assuming that, even though we got tested on Wednesday, the lab didn't get our samples until Thursday morning, and then allowing them the 3-5 business days (we were only told 3-5 days but we'll assume business days), we should get our results no later than tomorrow afternoon.
Seriously though, ten freakin' thirty? I mean, thanks for the results and all but, WTF?
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