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LordMortis wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 7:34 am Browsing through my Epic Games, I see that somewhere along the line, my game changed to Complete Edition though I never paid for upgrade. But then I look at the DLC and it all says available but then doesn't install.

I was actually going to come back to this game. Uninstalling and reinstalling. And boy is the UI for EPIC slooowww.

Edit uninistall reinstall = same weirdness. Each DLC says available. Then I click on it and then it goes to a website and says unavailable.

same thing happened to me, but the automatic update to complete edition already has all the dlc, so all the dlc is "unavailable" to download again. They need to remove those in-game links. Pretty cool to wait long enough to get all the dlc for free.

Weird.

I have the complete edition in my Library. But when I click the link to go to the Store page, it shows the "Buy" button. Clearly something is messed up on their end.

When I played it recently, I had some of the DLC (since I clearly had the Ancient weapons), but I definitely did not have the Festering Skies.

So I'm not actually sure what I have. I also have a link for the Upgrade Pack. Which also says "Buy" on the Store page. That one has a little note on the image that says "6 Add-ons" while my Complete image just has "2 Add-ons". So I wonder if you actually have to Install both to get the complete package. (Assuming that it will let you since the Store pages show the game as unpurchased...)

Look in your Epic library. If it says you have the Partial Edition you are missing some of the content.

and for the unbelievers, copied from RPGWatch:
Phoenix Point: Complete Edition, the acclaimed strategy game from the creator of X-COM, is now assembled into the ultimate collection, including all DLCs, content updates, and more. Now including Steam Workshop mod support!

I've fired up the game again in Epic after not playing it in a year or more and holy smokes there are a lot of changes. There's a whole new Prologue, the interface has been improved, there are some new functions and some new enemies. And that's still in the Prologue.

And the third "mission" in the Prologue takes place in a captured Phoenix Point base, which is really pretty cool.

jztemple2 wrote: ↑Sat Jul 23, 2022 11:55 pm I've fired up the game again in Epic after not playing it in a year or more and holy smokes there are a lot of changes. There's a whole new Prologue, the interface has been improved, there are some new functions and some new enemies. And that's still in the Prologue.

And the third "mission" in the Prologue takes place in a captured Phoenix Point base, which is really pretty cool.

I hadn't fired it up since the game was freshly a new release and I just played a bit today. I see the prologue changed, but my memory is we had to recapture a base and I've seen no new enemies. I'm trying to figure out if I have the DLC. I also need to find a way to turn off the multiple skins for the same equipment. It's already a chore to not have an excellent sort for equipment (that I can find), having three different looks for the same armor is just that much more I need to parse to make simple decisions... The least they could do is put all helmets side by side, leggings side by side, etc...

I'm not sure how far I need to advance to find out if the "available" DLC is actually included in my now "complete" version.

Three skins for the same armor? Are you sure?

There are three types of armor: heavy, assault, and sniper. They have different bonuses and penalties. Though, you should only be able to see the type(s) that your unit can wear based on his or her class. Assuming you have the toggle to only show class gear.

I looked through the DLC, and I don't see anything that brings new armor skins.

sample here

https://www.nexusmods.com/phoenixpoint/mods/57

If you look at the sniper class armor you can see three different sniper helms. In actuality two of them are the same. Likely you have the feature turned off, which I just need to figure out how to do.


Edit: If I start over I can try turning off "use promotional skins"...

Although I have PP on Epic, I've decided to get it on Steam, one for the ease of the Steam workshop and B) because I'm trying to wean myself off Epic. Also I got PP cheap with a coupon on Epic so I feel like I'm not losing out so much.

Anyway, I'll be able to post about any issue with the Steam Complete Edition versus the Epic Complete Edition. And if I don't see anything worth the change I've got two gameplay hours to tinker with it and still get a refund

Also I'll be using that Custom Campaign mod to make some starting changes and report on how that works.

I actually pre-ordered it or kickstarted it, or whatever prior to them becoming Epic exclusive, so I got it on Steam for free, and that's where I play it mostly. I have all the DLC on both platforms, wish I could gift one away.

jztemple2 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 3:15 pm Although I have PP on Epic, I've decided to get it on Steam, one for the ease of the Steam workshop and B) because I'm trying to wean myself off Epic. Also I got PP cheap with a coupon on Epic so I feel like I'm not losing out so much.

Anyway, I'll be able to post about any issue with the Steam Complete Edition versus the Epic Complete Edition. And if I don't see anything worth the change I've got two gameplay hours to tinker with it and still get a refund

Also I'll be using that Custom Campaign mod to make some starting changes and report on how that works.

I've asked for a refund since I didn't see anything different in the Steam edition except that it does indeed show all the DLC is installed. Also there is a problem with both versions with setting video resolution that I find annoying. So no point spending extra money to be annoyed.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 1:48 pm sample here

https://www.nexusmods.com/phoenixpoint/mods/57

If you look at the sniper class armor you can see three different sniper helms. In actuality two of them are the same. Likely you have the feature turned off, which I just need to figure out how to do.


Edit: If I start over I can try turning off "use promotional skins"...

Ah. I don't have a Playstation or XBox. So I probably simply didn't get any of the promotional skins. So I didn't get any of that. Or it's a setting, but I don't remember seeing a setting.

This on Epic.

Right... but from that mod description:

"Unlocks all neutral faction and redeemable skins for manufacturing, including Playstation and Xbox exclusive skins."

So I assumed that some of the skins you were seeing were promotional ones. Point being, I didn't have any additional promotional skins. Presumably because I didn't interact with anything that offered them.

I've played a couple of missions past the Prologue of the PP Complete version, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for that will tell me all five DLC are installed. If I select "Manage Add-Ons" on the Epic interface this is what I get. Maybe I'm too early in the Campaign to see the add-ons in action.

So I am wrong.
I have Epic's NotGoingToUpdateAnyMore Edition. They should have called it The Finished Edition.
So I can complete my Complete Edition for $14.99, or buy the entire shebang on STEAM for $24.99.

TheMix wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 10:47 pm Right... but from that mod description:

"Unlocks all neutral faction and redeemable skins for manufacturing, including Playstation and Xbox exclusive skins."

So I assumed that some of the skins you were seeing were promotional ones. Point being, I didn't have any additional promotional skins. Presumably because I didn't interact with anything that offered them.

I have none of that.

jztemple2 wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 12:33 am I've played a couple of missions past the Prologue of the PP Complete version, but I'm not sure what I'm looking for that will tell me all five DLC are installed. If I select "Manage Add-Ons" on the Epic interface this is what I get. Maybe I'm too early in the Campaign to see the add-ons in action.

I don't even have the manage add ons option, but then I didn't get blood and titanium. I wonder if I should wait a few weeks to see if this updates. Though the devs seem to imply there will be no more changes.

Dave Allen wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:37 am So I am wrong.
I have Epic's NotGoingToUpdateAnyMore Edition. They should have called it The Finished Edition.
So I can complete my Complete Edition for $14.99, or buy the entire shebang on STEAM for $24.99.

How did you figure that out. I also see that I can addon to my complete edition to my complete edition for $14.99 but then it says I can also buy the complete edition in addition to my complete edition $24.99. I am beginning to be reminded why I don't really buy games from Epic.

My complete edition claims to have all five DLC but I cant actually use them.



If you click on available then it takes you to an epic webpage that says unavailable. "Year One Edition". So I think if I want the full game I have to go spend $25 on Steam. No biggee. I never felt entitled to the DLC, even if I was annoyed at the DLC release timeline vs the state of the post release game.

Dave Allen wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 2:37 am So I am wrong.
I have Epic's NotGoingToUpdateAnyMore Edition. They should have called it The Finished Edition.
So I can complete my Complete Edition for $14.99, or buy the entire shebang on STEAM for $24.99.

I was a Kickstarter backer and got my code from that for Epic. I also got a Steam code, but not sure how/where. My Epic version updated to say "Complete Edition" right on the icon. But my Steam version is not. So that should be a quick visible marker which version you have.

jztemple2 wrote: ↑Sun Jul 24, 2022 4:09 pm I've asked for a refund since I didn't see anything different in the Steam edition except that it does indeed show all the DLC is installed. Also there is a problem with both versions with setting video resolution that I find annoying. So no point spending extra money to be annoyed.

There's been an update on this issue...

Thank you for reporting the problem. We are sorry and will fix it.

Meanwhile here is a workaround how can you find correct resolution for your screen.

Start the game and go to Options - Video. Change screen mode to window.

Click few times on the left or right buttons next to needs text in the resolution. Apply button will appear. Click apply. It will change your resolution. Continue doing this until the window covers your whole screen. Once the window covers your whole screen you found the right resolution. Change screen mode back to full screen.

Apologies for the inconvenience.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Mon Jul 25, 2022 4:14 am How did you figure that out...

Installed size.

Terror from the Void (TFTV), is a major mod for the game that hit version 1.0 today and is endorsed by the original devs:



The game is on sale today until April 29th. The mod requires all the DLC, keep that in mind. You can buy the complete edition bundle for some more savings.

Boooo!

I never grabbed the DLCs. Most were not well received.

At least I recently did a playthrough and am not really up for another one yet.

TheMix wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 5:08 pm Boooo!

I never grabbed the DLCs. Most were not well received.

At least I recently did a playthrough and am not really up for another one yet.

My pre ordered only available as Epic exclusive version was not compatible with the DLC. I would have had to rebuy the game to get the full version. The game was still in pretty bad shape at the end game when I stopped playing it sometime after full release and rather than fixing things like making pathing easier (without revealing hidden enemies) they started re balancing to make it more challenging. There was no way I was giving them another dime to rebuy a game I over paid for, for which lied about how the release was going to work. Also the "adaptive" enemies, which was a major draw for me, was non existent. Blech to the whole studio. Or Boooo!

The complete edition is under $15 USD on Steam . I refunded the copy I got on Steam a couple of years ago because I already had it on Epic, but this might make it worth getting.

Not sure what I did, but I got it free on Steam after the first year. I did kickstart it as well. I did it at the all in level, so got all the DLC. It never grabbed me. I love Xcom, and all it's iterations, but Phoenix point just was missing something...

I figure I will try again, with this overhaul, but I am going to wait for it to get some patches.

jztemple2 wrote: ↑Fri Apr 26, 2024 7:47 pm The complete edition is under $15 USD on Steam . I refunded the copy I got on Steam a couple of years ago because I already had it on Epic, but this might make it worth getting.

You are tempting me. After I vowed to myself... errrghhh...

So I spent the $15 and subscribed to the mod. I set the game to play with mods. I can see it loaded in the workshop. After I start there is supposed to be an option to turn the mod on. It is not there. Additionally, when I start the game I get sync error. sigh

Edit somehow got it to work by switching mods from On to some sort of prompt before starting.

LordMortis wrote: ↑Sat Apr 27, 2024 6:24 pm So I spent the $15 and subscribed to the mod. I set the game to play with mods. I can see it loaded in the workshop. After I start there is supposed to be an option to turn the mod on. It is not there. Additionally, when I start the game I get sync error. sigh

Edit somehow got it to work by switching mods from On to some sort of prompt before starting.

I finally bought it, too. I thought it was confusing that the mod option won't appear in the game when starting the game from the desktop shortcut. There is probably a way to automate the "mods on" functionality with a steam .exe attribute, but I can't be bothered to investigate. Anyone know?

Ok I was bothered enough to find out.
To automate startup of mods version from the desktop icon:
Go in your Steam library and right-click on Phoenix Point -> Properties.
In the general tab, there is a launch options field. Type -mods and that's it. You can now run from the desktop shortcut and mods will be enabled.

Thank you! I am not normally someone who plays with mods. It was a pain to figure out. The instructions weren't quite right and choosing "mods always on" option didn't work for me, even when running from the library. I will try your way when I actually play. I just wanted to get the game to work before deciding if I was wanted my $15 back. I also normally run everything from my desktop.

Now all I need to do if is fix the synch save game files. I'll get to the eventually.