Re: Let's play: Battletech via MegaMek
Posted: Thu Mar 18, 2021 6:21 pm
That is not dead which can eternal lie, and with strange aeons bring us some web forums whereupon we can gather
http://www.octopusoverlords.com/forum/
I'd sort of hoped we'd fair a little better. At least knock 1-2 of them out, make a real fight of it. Now they're just going to say they were right about me being solamha. And 3 of our people don't have a choice about returning with us.
NickAragua wrote: ↑Thu Mar 18, 2021 2:17 pm "Just you guys and me, I guess." Archinerd states. "Should have listened to AWS."
I said heaviest!
DEFINITELY NO, you are not the only one.Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:18 pm Am I the only one that got excited when I saw he posted something in here? No? Yes?
For everything that you have generating the numbers for you, it is still a marvel to me how you were able to turn that collection of mumbo-jumbo into a cohesive, entertaining, and basically kick-ass storyline that lasted for damn near what, 4 years? You rock, sir.
DittoZenn7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 4:31 pmDEFINITELY NO, you are not the only one.Hyena wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 3:18 pm Am I the only one that got excited when I saw he posted something in here? No? Yes?
For everything that you have generating the numbers for you, it is still a marvel to me how you were able to turn that collection of mumbo-jumbo into a cohesive, entertaining, and basically kick-ass storyline that lasted for damn near what, 4 years? You rock, sir.
This is likely the highlight of my day if not my whole week.
At that point Zenn7 starts to chase El Guapo around the hanger deck while the rest of the company laughs. The scene freezes with El Guapo in mid leap over a mech arm laying on the deck and...roll credits!
They don't have any. Most WS left with Kerensky during Exodus, and whatever was left behind got destroyed over 200+ years of near-constant warfare along with the high-tech infrastructure needed to build more. The only ones in IS with real warships is Com(Cast)Star, but that's a secret.Stefan Stirzaker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Also why dont the houses have warships to defend planets or jump points?
I hear they get all the channels on their warship.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:01 pmThey don't have any. Most WS left with Kerensky during Exodus, and whatever was left behind got destroyed over 200+ years of near-constant warfare along with the high-tech infrastructure needed to build more. The only ones in IS with real warships is Com(Cast)Star, but that's a secret.Stefan Stirzaker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Also why dont the houses have warships to defend planets or jump points?
Only if you are in upper management, otherwise it's "Holy word of Blake" televangelism 24/7.$iljanus wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:46 pmI hear they get all the channels on their warship.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:01 pmThey don't have any. Most WS left with Kerensky during Exodus, and whatever was left behind got destroyed over 200+ years of near-constant warfare along with the high-tech infrastructure needed to build more. The only ones in IS with real warships is Com(Cast)Star, but that's a secret.Stefan Stirzaker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Also why dont the houses have warships to defend planets or jump points?
I have to say I don't totally understand how there was such massive technological loss during the Succession War period. Weren't schematics and technological knowledge saved across a billion computers all across the Inner Sphere? I get that most of the warships left with Kerensky, but there were some left, plus scientists and various governments that were all highly motivated to spend money on war technology. It's not like there was technical backsliding during the carnage of World War II (quite the opposite), or during the 100 years war.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:01 pmThey don't have any. Most WS left with Kerensky during Exodus, and whatever was left behind got destroyed over 200+ years of near-constant warfare along with the high-tech infrastructure needed to build more. The only ones in IS with real warships is Com(Cast)Star, but that's a secret.Stefan Stirzaker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Also why dont the houses have warships to defend planets or jump points?
Granted, it is a bit contrived, but indiscriminate and deliberate nuking, orbital bombardments and etc of industrial centers and infrastructure for well over a century would do the trick. The holy "ComCast" also massively contributed to technology decline by activity sabotaging attempts to recover tech - destroying what they could not recover themselves, tampering with transmissions and so on. Pretty much it's a case of humans doing what we do best - being stupid.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:41 pmI have to say I don't totally understand how there was such massive technological loss during the Succession War period. Weren't schematics and technological knowledge saved across a billion computers all across the Inner Sphere? I get that most of the warships left with Kerensky, but there were some left, plus scientists and various governments that were all highly motivated to spend money on war technology. It's not like there was technical backsliding during the carnage of World War II (quite the opposite), or during the 100 years war.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:01 pmThey don't have any. Most WS left with Kerensky during Exodus, and whatever was left behind got destroyed over 200+ years of near-constant warfare along with the high-tech infrastructure needed to build more. The only ones in IS with real warships is Com(Cast)Star, but that's a secret.Stefan Stirzaker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Also why dont the houses have warships to defend planets or jump points?
Unless all the scientists and mechanics left with Kerensky too?
Just looking at the real world today, you can find most anything on the internet, but guessing you can't find the tech specs/blue prints to build most of our higher tech toys. While we might be able to build a car or computer, if every facility on the planet that currently could build a car or a computer was destroyed, and all their offsite technical backups and engineering worksites were destroyed - I'd think we'd have a hell of a lot of trouble making more that meet our currently available specs. Even though we might have many of the engineers and certainly some of the workers who built the stuff. They aren't going to have their blueprints/notes/tools, it's just what they have in their head still.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:02 pmGranted, it is a bit contrived, but indiscriminate and deliberate nuking, orbital bombardments and etc of industrial centers and infrastructure for well over a century would do the trick. The holy "ComCast" also massively contributed to technology decline by activity sabotaging attempts to recover tech - destroying what they could not recover themselves, tampering with transmissions and so on. Pretty much it's a case of humans doing what we do best - being stupid.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:41 pmI have to say I don't totally understand how there was such massive technological loss during the Succession War period. Weren't schematics and technological knowledge saved across a billion computers all across the Inner Sphere? I get that most of the warships left with Kerensky, but there were some left, plus scientists and various governments that were all highly motivated to spend money on war technology. It's not like there was technical backsliding during the carnage of World War II (quite the opposite), or during the 100 years war.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:01 pmThey don't have any. Most WS left with Kerensky during Exodus, and whatever was left behind got destroyed over 200+ years of near-constant warfare along with the high-tech infrastructure needed to build more. The only ones in IS with real warships is Com(Cast)Star, but that's a secret.Stefan Stirzaker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Also why dont the houses have warships to defend planets or jump points?
Unless all the scientists and mechanics left with Kerensky too?
I'm chasing him around encouraging him to pilot one of the blimps?
Taking out every computer on the planet that has saved on it how to build a tank, along with every relevant person who knows how to do that, all while you have various warring parties very much interested in making sure that they are making the newest and best tanks, while not ending civilization altogether? I guess it's not impossible, but seems very, very unlikely. I'm also not aware of any historical parallels for that kind of thing.Zenn7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:41 pmJust looking at the real world today, you can find most anything on the internet, but guessing you can't find the tech specs/blue prints to build most of our higher tech toys. While we might be able to build a car or computer, if every facility on the planet that currently could build a car or a computer was destroyed, and all their offsite technical backups and engineering worksites were destroyed - I'd think we'd have a hell of a lot of trouble making more that meet our currently available specs. Even though we might have many of the engineers and certainly some of the workers who built the stuff. They aren't going to have their blueprints/notes/tools, it's just what they have in their head still.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:02 pmGranted, it is a bit contrived, but indiscriminate and deliberate nuking, orbital bombardments and etc of industrial centers and infrastructure for well over a century would do the trick. The holy "ComCast" also massively contributed to technology decline by activity sabotaging attempts to recover tech - destroying what they could not recover themselves, tampering with transmissions and so on. Pretty much it's a case of humans doing what we do best - being stupid.El Guapo wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 10:41 pmI have to say I don't totally understand how there was such massive technological loss during the Succession War period. Weren't schematics and technological knowledge saved across a billion computers all across the Inner Sphere? I get that most of the warships left with Kerensky, but there were some left, plus scientists and various governments that were all highly motivated to spend money on war technology. It's not like there was technical backsliding during the carnage of World War II (quite the opposite), or during the 100 years war.Leraje wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 7:01 pmThey don't have any. Most WS left with Kerensky during Exodus, and whatever was left behind got destroyed over 200+ years of near-constant warfare along with the high-tech infrastructure needed to build more. The only ones in IS with real warships is Com(Cast)Star, but that's a secret.Stefan Stirzaker wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 5:13 pm Also why dont the houses have warships to defend planets or jump points?
Unless all the scientists and mechanics left with Kerensky too?
Technically, we don't have a lot of the information from Egyptian time. We would struggle to build the pyramids today, as well as the lost art of mummification or even true Damascus steel. Also, in much more modern times, the Germans during WWII were onto some very cutting-edge stuff, things that we still don't can't figure out today. I definitely get what you're talking about, but intricate, technical stuff the size of a skyscraper would definitely be difficult to reproduce, even WITH the right manufacturing buildings/equipment. Finally, when the nasty stuff went down in the wars, I'm sure many of the upper-echelon engineers and such were targeted to prevent the enemy from building stuff, which is akin to technology suicide for BOTH sides.El Guapo wrote: ↑Fri Apr 09, 2021 10:23 amTaking out every computer on the planet that has saved on it how to build a tank, along with every relevant person who knows how to do that, all while you have various warring parties very much interested in making sure that they are making the newest and best tanks, while not ending civilization altogether? I guess it's not impossible, but seems very, very unlikely. I'm also not aware of any historical parallels for that kind of thing.Zenn7 wrote: ↑Thu Apr 08, 2021 11:41 pmJust looking at the real world today, you can find most anything on the internet, but guessing you can't find the tech specs/blue prints to build most of our higher tech toys. While we might be able to build a car or computer, if every facility on the planet that currently could build a car or a computer was destroyed, and all their offsite technical backups and engineering worksites were destroyed - I'd think we'd have a hell of a lot of trouble making more that meet our currently available specs. Even though we might have many of the engineers and certainly some of the workers who built the stuff. They aren't going to have their blueprints/notes/tools, it's just what they have in their head still.
Anyway, I know it's just part of the Battletech universe, it's just always something that I've found a little odd.