I really want the visual designers of this show to make an H.P. Lovecraft Innsmouth movie. They could make some terrifying Deep Ones.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:18 pm
by Holman
hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 7:50 pm
But I suspect there’s more to the acid sea than meets the eye. I wouldn’t be surprised if we find out that Sol (or whatever the unseen enemy is that is pulling all the strings) has a hand in its making and maintenance.
Sure, sure. But then it's not really an acid sea. If that's the case, it's magic and the whole 22b ecosystem is magic.
What's notable is that nothing in the story so far has required an acid sea. An acid sea is hugely unrealistic, and none of the characters/threats have experienced it as important (aside from Marcus having to skip to shore for 10 seconds). It feels like bloated world-building.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:44 pm
by hepcat
I don’t think an explanation for the acid ocean that doesn’t fit into our current (and limited) knowledge of what’s possible will necessarily mean it’s just “magic”. Nor does having that aspect of the show (and the worm holes mentioned earlier) explained with anything other than pure hard science effectively render all actions and consequences as meaningless.
Our knowledge of what’s possible is vastly different than someone from even a hundred years ago. The ecosystem on Kepler 22b has obviously been controlled by a race or being that is so far ahead of even the humans from the future as featured on the show as to make them seem like cavemen.
But at the end of the day, the show entertains me with some interesting thoughts on faith, what makes us human, and questions how we can ensure our future when we’re still incapable of forgiving our past.
…and bat shit insane stuff. Lots of bat shit insane stuff. I think I made that quite clear in the very first post.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:56 pm
by Holman
hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 9:44 pm
I don’t think an explanation for the acid ocean that doesn’t fit into our current (and limited) knowledge of what’s possible will necessarily mean it’s just “magic”. Nor does having that aspect of the show (and the worm holes mentioned earlier) explained with anything other than pure hard science effectively render all actions and consequences as meaningless.
Our knowledge of what’s possible is vastly different than someone from even a hundred years ago. The ecosystem on Kepler 22b has obviously been controlled by a race or being that is so far ahead of even the humans from the future as featured on the show as to make them seem like cavemen.
But at the end of the day, the show entertains me with some interesting thoughts on faith, what makes us human, and questions how we can ensure our future when we’re still incapable of forgiving our past.
…and bat shit insane stuff. Lots of bat shit insane stuff. I think I made that quite clear in the very first post.
I'm with you. I love that we're getting a major SF series that deals with themes of faith and existentialism (even if none of those issues have gone beyond defining which believers have what powers).
But, seriously, nobody is standing around breathing Earth-like atmosphere if the nearby ocean melts your Space Shuttle.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:04 pm
by hepcat
If the show was called Waterworld: the Series, I might be bothered by it more.
hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:11 pm
That was unexpected.
…is it too late to claim I was being sarcastic?
World peace.... a cure for cancer.... so many things.... but you blew your one shot on the Waterworld Series. great.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:30 pm
by hepcat
Right now I’m desperately trying to jam this friggin’ genie back in the damn lamp I just rubbed before writing that, but the little bastard keeps biting me.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:40 pm
by Isgrimnur
Idjit with an ifrit.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 8:07 am
by $iljanus
hepcat wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 10:30 pm
Right now I’m desperately trying to jam this friggin’ genie back in the damn lamp I just rubbed before writing that, but the little bastard keeps biting me.
You didn’t happen to type out your wish in the presence of a monkey’s paw, did you?
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Mon Mar 14, 2022 9:39 am
by hepcat
Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Sun Mar 13, 2022 11:40 pm
Idjit with an ifrit.
Weenie with a Genie
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:55 pm
by hepcat
Okay, so we have an answer as to who and what is causing people to devolve. It’s not what I expected.
Also, the alien tree video may be one of the more horrific things I’ve seen in a while.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:08 pm
by Smoove_B
hepcat wrote: ↑Fri Mar 18, 2022 8:55 pm
Okay, so we have an answer as to who and what is causing people to devolve. It’s not what I expected.
Haven't watched it yet, but I'm guessing...Frank Stallone.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Mar 18, 2022 9:13 pm
by hepcat
Frank Stallone?
Ooohhhh, you mean the American John Lennon.
Spoiler:
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 2:19 am
by Zaxxon
Well damn.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Mar 19, 2022 10:02 am
by hepcat
What I like is that RbW will throw these absurdly weird puzzles at us (the devolving humans of Keppler 22b, for example), then eventually provide us with a down to earth (so to speak) answer that makes sense.
I also think the symbolic nature of heaven and hell is becoming more and more pronounced. With Mother representing the heavenly aspect (her domain is the sky...which she travels while striking a pose that resembles a symbol of the church) and the Entity as hellish (its "lair" is underground, as we've learned). I see Campion as A reluctant Christ in some ways, while Father represents humanity watching these celestial forces warring while he and his children suffer the consequences.
But what the F is going on with Marcus now? I need answers, damn it!
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:32 am
by Smoove_B
Just finished the final episode of S2. I didn't think it would be possible, but I believe I enjoyed S2 more than S1.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:35 am
by Zaxxon
Smoove_B wrote: ↑Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:32 am
Just finished the final episode of S2. I didn't think it would be possible, but I believe I enjoyed S2 more than S1.
Sol is pleased to hear of your compliance.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:45 am
by hepcat
When I wrote my last post, I didn't realize that was the season 2 finale.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:46 am
by Smoove_B
Your head is going to explode
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Tue Mar 22, 2022 11:51 am
by Zaxxon
Or
Spoiler:
Sol will graciously devolve you so you no longer need answers and your head will remain safely un-exploded.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:54 pm
by Smoove_B
As reported by our very own entertainment news correspondent, it has been cancelled.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:15 pm
by Zaxxon
Bah. Someone call Bezos.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 5:43 pm
by hepcat
While I’m incredibly annoyed it’s gone, I’m still surprised we got two seasons of this. It really did feel like a throwback to the glory days of 70s science fiction films in which imagination and originality were the driving forces. I mean, even describing this show to someone, I have to frequently shake my head in disbelief at the things they did.
I would love for it to reappear somewhere else just to end the story, but I suspect the very things we loved about this show will make it a hard sell to anyone else.
p.s. this guy throws out some interesting theories and points out some details I didn’t really think were that important at the time…but now realize they may very well be. It’s sad to hear him mention season 3 during his discussion though.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:46 pm
by Kraken
Bummer. I'm two episodes from the end.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Fri Jun 03, 2022 9:59 pm
by hepcat
Honestly, this is one show I’d be happy to see finished in a book (or graphic novel) if nothing else. I really do want to see where it’s all going.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:36 am
by $iljanus
One more season would have been nice to wrap things up. The show was a perfect combination of thought provoking science fiction and crazypants insanity. Plot developments were really starting to advance too with the second season.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:36 am
by hepcat
Maybe we can convince Smoove to put aside his work on fan fiction scripts for a reboot of Misfits of Science long enough to give us a proper ending to RbW?
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 11:46 am
by naednek
I tried to like it. It just didn't click
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:13 pm
by hepcat
Like all things, it's not for everyone.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 8:57 pm
by Zaxxon
hepcat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:13 pm
Like all things, it's not for everyone.
Mithraism is for all.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:11 pm
by Smoove_B
hepcat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 10:36 am
Maybe we can convince Smoove to put aside his work on fan fiction scripts for a reboot of Misfits of Science long enough to give us a proper ending to RbW?
Wow. That's a show I had not thought of in a long, long time!
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:13 pm
by hepcat
This pile of spec scripts featuring a new character called “Smoove Von Funkenstein” says otherwise.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sat Jun 04, 2022 9:28 pm
by Smoove_B
Well after watching the S3 premiere of The Boys, I need to go back to the drawing board.
hepcat wrote: ↑Sat Jun 04, 2022 7:13 pm
Like all things, it's not for everyone.
Mithraism is for all.
Praise Sol!
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Sun Jun 05, 2022 9:58 am
by hepcat
Saul?
oh....sOl.
Never mind. It's sol good man.
Re: [HBOMax] Raised by Wolves
Posted: Mon Jun 06, 2022 6:00 pm
by rittchard
Smoove_B wrote: ↑Fri Jun 03, 2022 4:54 pm
As reported by our very own entertainment news correspondent, it has been cancelled.
It sounds like they have a good chance of coming back on another service if they can get enough fan support and show some momentum. Although without a surge like Manifest got from being shown on Netflix, I don’t know if it will be enough. Petition isn’t showing a lot of strength so far…
