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Is someone not completing their night orders? What's the holdup?
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Re: The King in Yellow (Night 0)

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Moliere wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:08 am Is someone not completing their night orders? What's the holdup?
Correct.
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Re: The King in Yellow (Night 0)

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Lagom Lite wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:46 am
Moliere wrote: Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:08 am Is someone not completing their night orders? What's the holdup?
Correct.
I can neither confirm or deny it was me...
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I feel like I might be starting to go insane sans book. :confusion-scratchheadyellow:
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Re: The King in Yellow (Day 1)

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Day 1

”Have you seen the Yellow Sign?”

A terrible Anarchist bombing has abrubtly awakened Paris. According to a Belle-Lettrist of the newspaper Le Petit Parisien, the radical hissed those ominous words before blowing himself, the little café Le Veau Gras and anyone still in it back to God.

In response, the Police has started to conduct a city-wide search for seditious literature. Whatever ideas are inspiring these atrocities must be discovered and purged!




It is Day.


Five Sane Art Students remain!

Two Copies of the Play are currently in circulation!



Before the game can proceed into Night, a voting majority to Search a player’s home must be reached. Voting is done with the “accuse” tags.

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1. Punisher
2. Unagi
3. Moliere
4. Newcastle
5. Holman
6. Scoop20906
7. Isgrimnur
8. Lassr

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Last edited by Lagom Lite on Sat Nov 11, 2023 7:05 pm, edited 3 times in total.
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Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:41 am:think:
Yeah, this is a low information day one and my order didn't bear any fruit last night so I'm still an sane, uninspired schlub. And the price of art supplies these days!!! So how do we go about picking a target today? If I understand it correctly, the closest thing we have to a Seer in this game is the Alienist but if he scanned an insane player last night they would already be in the Asylum, is that correct? Its possible someone or maybe a bunch of people have already found the muse which means they are already inspired but then the muse would be plotting all (expect one of their deaths). Oh wait, the muse can drive one of their lover's insane? I missed that before.

Back back to today. Who do we vote for? I mean, voting for the muse would be bad because that is a potential path to inspiration. Voting for the Hildred Castaigne would be bad because he is spreading the book which is another path to inspiration. Voting for the Alienist is good because he is trying to prevent us from getting the book and scanning for the insane at night.

I'm still kind of confused about how the game ends however.
Art Students (5)
Win condition
Art Students start the game Uninspired. To win, you must both become Inspired, survive any plots to Murder you and keep out of the Asylum by the time the game ends. If you are Committed to the Asylum or Murdered, you lose the game. If the game ends when you are still Uninspired, you lose the game.

Please note that Art Students always win individually, and not as a group. It is very likely for some Art Students to win the game, and for other Art Students to lose the game.

The only way to become Inspired is to procure and Read a copy of the Play, or to successfully Seduce the Muse

The Muse (1)
Win condition
The Muse wins the game by having exactly ONE Lover at the end of the game. If the Muse has no Lover or more than one Lover, she instead loses the game.

The only way for the Muse to get rid of Lovers is to have them Committed to the Asylum or Murdered.

Alienist (1)
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The Alienist wins if all Insane Art Students are Murdered or Committed to the Asylum when the game ends.

Hildred Castaigne (1)
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Hildred Castaigne wins if at least one Art Student is Insane and not Murdered or Committed at the end of the game – he will break Hildred out from the Asylum if need be and help him gather his Great Navy.
Lets say I get inspired. What triggers the game to end so I win?

And is it really just a random vote today?
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Re: The King in Yellow (Day 1)

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Ahh, I'm to impatient. Lets get the killi... er voting started:

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Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:20 pm I'm to impatient.
Improper grammar, a sign of insanity?

I've been trying to figure out what triggers the end of game also...
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Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:24 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:20 pm I'm to impatient.
Improper grammar, a sign of insanity?

I've been trying to figure out what triggers the end of game also...
Wait, I saw Remus West lurking earlier, are you Remus....or think you are Remus?
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Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:25 pm
Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:24 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:20 pm I'm to impatient.
Improper grammar, a sign of insanity?

I've been trying to figure out what triggers the end of game also...
Wait, I saw Remus West lurking earlier, are you Remus....or think you are Remus?
I don't believe I am under mind control at this time.
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Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:56 pm
Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:25 pm
Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:24 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:20 pm I'm to impatient.
Improper grammar, a sign of insanity?

I've been trying to figure out what triggers the end of game also...
Wait, I saw Remus West lurking earlier, are you Remus....or think you are Remus?
I don't believe I am under mind control at this time.
Just curious as he had trouble with "to" and "too"...
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He was the first one to notice the "hold up". Hmmm..... :think:
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This is a vote to search for the play? If so, I don't have it. I can also reveal who I searched last night and was told they don't have it either.
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Moliere wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:09 pm This is a vote to search for the play? If so, I don't have it. I can also reveal who I searched last night and was told they don't have it either.
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Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:11 pm Back back to today. Who do we vote for? I mean, voting for the muse would be bad because that is a potential path to inspiration. Voting for the Hildred Castaigne would be bad because he is spreading the book which is another path to inspiration. Voting for the Alienist is good because he is trying to prevent us from getting the book and scanning for the insane at night.
If I understand the rules, voting for either the Muse or Hildred will have no effect since both are always Sane.
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Holman wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:37 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:11 pm Back back to today. Who do we vote for? I mean, voting for the muse would be bad because that is a potential path to inspiration. Voting for the Hildred Castaigne would be bad because he is spreading the book which is another path to inspiration. Voting for the Alienist is good because he is trying to prevent us from getting the book and scanning for the insane at night.
If I understand the rules, voting for either the Muse or Hildred will have no effect since both are always Sane.
But, yeah (these rules are complex!), if either the Muse or Hildred has a copy of the play, it will be destroyed if we vote for them. They just can't be Committed (eliminated).
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Holman wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 7:37 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:11 pm Back back to today. Who do we vote for? I mean, voting for the muse would be bad because that is a potential path to inspiration. Voting for the Hildred Castaigne would be bad because he is spreading the book which is another path to inspiration. Voting for the Alienist is good because he is trying to prevent us from getting the book and scanning for the insane at night.
If I understand the rules, voting for either the Muse or Hildred will have no effect since both are always Sane.
Ok, so its just a book hunt today? Only the Alienist is insane right now?
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Re: The King in Yellow (Day 1)

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Hmm, yeah - there are a lot of moving parts.

I like that Moliere is being helpful with information, (I think).

I think I'll get behind the random vote on Issy.

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Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:11 pm Lets say I get inspired. What triggers the game to end so I win?
The game ends when all copies of the Play are destroyed, or when all Art Students are Insane, Murdered or Committed to an Asylum.

So, if you aren't going for the All Students are Insane path, you are trying to destroy copies of plays and find Insane students (with a copy of the book in their possession, to boot) via day-lynch and send them to the Asylum (or hope they are murdered at night).
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Moliere wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 5:09 pm This is a vote to search for the play? If so, I don't have it. I can also reveal who I searched last night and was told they don't have it either.
It's mildly useful information, and now that you claim to hold it, it would probably help to share it.

I think.

I'm open to rebuttal.
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Yes, I'm trying to figure out the downside to sharing info, if there is any at this point in the game. Of course, we could bek lying also....

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Re: The King in Yellow (Day 1)

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Since thos os coming from me i have no idea if its accurate.

I dont think there iscacdownside ti sharing info, but i also dont think it matters much.
If Moliere scanbed me last night, im sane and dont have the book.
BUT, that doesnt mean i wont have the book tonight ir be insane the next day.
Youd have to scan thevsame person over and over until their situation changes for it to be valid unless you get lucky with a scan and find acstudenr with the book who is also insane.
If i have the book but dont read ot i dont think anything happens to me unless i am also insane at the same time.
I think the same thing happens if i get the book, read it, go insane, then destroy the book. Youd have to catch me on the exact day i have the book and i am insane otherwise nothing gappens with a search.
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An interesting wrinkle (vs most WW games) is that a "lynch" won't kill (commit to the Asylum) anyone who isn't insane. They'll lose a book if they have one, but if they're sane they'll stay in the game. And anyone who received a copy of the play on Night 0 won't yet have had time to read it and go insane.

Unless the lynch hits the Alienist today (since no one else is insane yet), it won't eliminate anyone. But it could burn a book belonging to Hildred or to someone he gave a copy to (or who stole it from him).

Hildred didn't murder anyone last night, so he either did nothing or distributed a copy of the play to one player. It's pretty likely that there are two copies of the play in the game now, so the play will be difficult to eliminate.
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Unagi wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:12 pm
Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 12:11 pm Lets say I get inspired. What triggers the game to end so I win?
The game ends when all copies of the Play are destroyed, or when all Art Students are Insane, Murdered or Committed to an Asylum.

So, if you aren't going for the All Students are Insane path, you are trying to destroy copies of plays and find Insane students (with a copy of the book in their possession, to boot) via day-lynch and send them to the Asylum (or hope they are murdered at night).
Ok, that makes a little more sense. So, which path is harder? Finding a book and going insane and making sure everyone else goes insane or trying to get freaky with the Muse and survive? A part of me thinks it makes sense for us to work together but going the insane book path probably leads to a easier death either via night visit from Alienist or a potential house search during the day. But if we got the muse path she will be trying to get us killed since she can only have one lover. I mean, it is a choice to read the book right? Its not a crime to hold it. Like I am holding this for a friend. :mrgreen:
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Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:40 pm we could bek lying also....
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I am not holding the play and I was told that Punisher is not holding the play.
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Moliere wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:48 pm I am not holding the play and I was told that Punisher is not holding the play.
Why am i always a day 1 sispect? Geez...i already daid i wasn't a wolf!
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Actually.
I will take this vote off.

Probably best to talk a bit about the roles and just general strategies and likely alliances, etm.

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do we want to narrow down where the the plays are? I mean we have to get inspired at some point and don't want them all destroyed.
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Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:40 pm
Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 8:40 pm we could bek lying also....
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that's not a grammar error, just an accidental extra key hit, and didn't feel like going back to edit my post.
Also, 1 more payment and this Pixel 6 is mine! (It's been a damn good phone) Then it's on to the Pixel 8.
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Unagi wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:07 pm Actually.
I will take this vote off.

Probably best to talk a bit about the roles and just general strategies and likely alliances, etm.

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Lassr wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 10:44 pm do we want to narrow down where the the plays are? I mean we have to get inspired at some point and don't want them all destroyed.
I like the idea but do we do that without giving that away to the alienist? For example, if someone says yeah I have the play and we all say ok good and we vote to search someone else's house today then alienist will just swoop in tonight and grab it and maybe get that person committed if they read it.

Actually ...

Lagom: if art student has a play and reads it tonight and then is visited by the alienist via his scan. What is the order of events? Does the person read it, then gets committed by the alienist or does the alienist confiscates the play and the player stays sane and in the game?
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I think I hinted this already that I didn't search for the play last night. I was doing something else that didn't bear fruit. :shifty: So...

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Moliere - no play (claims Moliere)
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Scoop20906 - no play (claims scoop)
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At least one but more likely two players have the play today. No one has read the play so no art student is insane yet I think.
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Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:08 pm At least one but more likely two players have the play today. No one has read the play so no art student is insane yet I think.
No murder, so two plays out there.

Lagom, are the instructions for Hildred either/or, rather than both optional?
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Scoop20906 wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:00 pmLagom: if art student has a play and reads it tonight and then is visited by the alienist via his scan. What is the order of events? Does the person read it, then gets committed by the alienist or does the alienist confiscates the play and the player stays sane and in the game?
Night Orders happen simultaneously, but Night Order effects happens at the end of Night.

In the scenario you describe above, the Alienist scan would therefore show Sane (since the target hasn't yet been affected by his reading). The Play would stay in the art student's possession and is not destroyed.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Tue Nov 07, 2023 11:21 pmLagom, are the instructions for Hildred either/or, rather than both optional?
Either/or.

Hildred may choose to either:
-Murder (target player), or:
-Copy the Play to (target player) if he has a Copy himself, or:
-Forfeit action
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