MLB 2023-24 Offseason

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:43 pm

There should be one.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Nov 06, 2023 6:44 pm

There are 13 first-time winners, the second most since the award was established in 1957, trailing only last year’s 14 (a Gold Glove category for utility players was introduced in 2022). This is also the fourth consecutive year that there have been at least 10 first-time winners, extending a record.

Two rookies won Gold Glove Awards, one in each league. According to the Elias Sports Bureau, it marks the third time in the award’s history that multiple rookies have won (also two in 2020 and three in ’22).

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:47 pm

The big question is how much will Ohtani sign with the Red Sox for?

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:56 pm

El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:47 pm The big question is how much will Ohtani sign with the Red Sox for?

Don’t you mean the Dodgers?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:58 am

Scuzz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:56 pm
El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:47 pm The big question is how much will Ohtani sign with the Red Sox for?
Don’t you mean the Dodgers?

Daisuke Matsuzaka can tell him how great it is to win a ring for the Sox - he will be ours!

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:20 pm

stessier wrote: ↑Tue Nov 07, 2023 9:58 am
Scuzz wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 11:56 pm
El Guapo wrote: ↑Mon Nov 06, 2023 10:47 pm The big question is how much will Ohtani sign with the Red Sox for?
Don’t you mean the Dodgers?
Daisuke Matsuzaka can tell him how great it is to win a ring for the Sox - he will be ours!

I think the Dodgers are after a pitcher who is still in Japan.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Tue Nov 07, 2023 2:43 pm

So far it seems like the Mets are going to be less aggressive this year. They signed a cheap manager... Let a guy option out instead of offering more money to keep him. They stocked up on prospects and I think they aren't planning on going nuts for another season. I'd say there's a pretty near zero chance they bag Otani. Not even sure they will try. I'd love to see them go after Bellinger, but I think last season is going to make it harder to recruit for this year. But buckets of money tends to solve these kinds of problems so I could be totally wrong.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:07 pm

MLB proposes new rule change for 2024 season

According to ESPN's Jeff Passan, MLB's competition committee is "weighing a proposal that would reduce the pitch clock with runners on base from 20 seconds to 18 next season." The 15-second pitch clock without runners on base would remain the same.

The proposal is in response to a gradual seven-minute increase in the average time of game last season as players adjusted to the new pitch clock rules.

Passan also reported that the committee is considering a proposal to reduce mound visits from five per game to four.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:44 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:07 pm MLB proposes new rule change for 2024 season

According to ESPN's Jeff Passan, MLB's competition committee is "weighing a proposal that would reduce the pitch clock with runners on base from 20 seconds to 18 next season." The 15-second pitch clock without runners on base would remain the same.

The proposal is in response to a gradual seven-minute increase in the average time of game last season as players adjusted to the new pitch clock rules.

Passan also reported that the committee is considering a proposal to reduce mound visits from five per game to four.

Lame. I think they should keep it the same and then until the 7th inning no pitch clock. The game is missing the drama.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Nov 15, 2023 9:56 pm

eh. Doesn't seem super important one way or the other, and since they nailed the pitch clock rules this season as far as I'm concerned, I'm inclined to give them the benefit of the doubt as they tweak it.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 12:24 am

I liked the pitch clock and the faster games. I am willing to go with the new rule.

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:12 pm

I liked the pitch clock more than I thought I would. It's definitely better than Joe Batter re-adjusting his batting gloves 15 times per at bat. Or some of those super slow pitchers that made me want to scream "THROW THE BALL"!

Is this modification necessary? /shrug I don't know or care that much. I'm sure MLB is just catering to the focus studies and financial wonks.

Whatever. Just bring on Spring Training!

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:25 pm

You haven't lived if you haven't watched a Mets broadcast where Keith Hernandez huffed and puffed about pitchers taking forever to pitch. I'll miss that part, but otherwise ya it was a very noticeable improvement. The clock and the larger bases certainly seemed to bring back the stolen bases. I need to check how much it was up this year, but it seemed like a ton.

Octavious · Post by **Octavious** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:28 pm

29%...About 1,000 more stolen bases. Crazy.... I like it.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 5:53 pm

Octavious wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 3:28 pm 29%...About 1,000 more stolen bases. Crazy.... I like it.

Which is why it bugs me. Now it's pointless to keep runners at check. There is no tension to the game. I think it would be better to do the clock thing and then in the 7th inning turn it off.

Going to the games now goes by way too fast. You start gazing at the crowd, you miss a half a inning.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:53 pm

Stealing a base was still something only a few players on most teams did though, except for a team or two most teams didn’t run wild. Freeman led the Dodgers in steals. He had more than Betts, which seems crazy.

Given time most pitchers will get quicker getting the ball to the catcher.

An average game was still 2:40 minutes.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Fri Nov 17, 2023 3:41 pm

Scuzz wrote: ↑Thu Nov 16, 2023 8:53 pm Stealing a base was still something only a few players on most teams did though, except for a team or two most teams didn’t run wild. Freeman led the Dodgers in steals. He had more than Betts, which seems crazy.

Given time most pitchers will get quicker getting the ball to the catcher.

An average game was still 2:40 minutes.

Listen, I know you being a dodger fan you want to get the game over quick

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:32 pm

The Padres hired Mike Shildt to be the 23rd manager in franchise history on Tuesday, finalizing a two-year contract with the 55-year-old, who spent the past two seasons as a senior advisor with the club.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Tue Nov 21, 2023 5:35 pm

So has Ohtani picked out a condo in Back Bay yet?

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:16 pm

Juan Soto to the Yankees is just about a done deal.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:46 pm

pr0ner wrote: ↑Wed Dec 06, 2023 5:16 pm Juan Soto to the Yankees is just about a done deal.

Getting Alex Verdugo wasn't enough?

ugh. Maybe this will help shame the Red Sox into making some significant deal of some type.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 3:57 pm

Unconfirmed reports indicate that Ohtani is about to sign with the Blue Jays.

Also apparently Angelos may sell the Orioles. Exciting news for Orioles fans.

Meanwhile...

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 5:57 pm

In the course of 24 hours, reports had Angelos selling the O's and the new lease deal FINALLY being complete. Within the last half hour, both of those positive developments have been trashed. Some state politician is now butting in and preventing the lease deal from being finalized. And in the course of that discussion, it's been reported that Angelos told the governor that he wasn't looking to sell the team.

Oh and welcome Juan Soto and Ohtani to the division. Awesome. Just awesome.

Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:02 pm

To the Blue Jays? I thought Ohtani likes Southern California. The Blue Jays aren't even in the same country. At least not to the Dodgers or Yankees. The Blue Jays?

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:04 pm

$600M buys a nice winter home.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:05 pm

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:19 pm

Jaymann wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:02 pm To the Blue Jays? I thought Ohtani likes Southern California. The Blue Jays aren't even in the same country. At least not to the Dodgers or Yankees. The Blue Jays?

Maybe he's not getting along as well with his family in Japan anymore?

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:26 pm

Yeah baseball twitter has been all over the map today. Apparently the private jet to Toronto that people thought Ohtani was on actually had the Shark Tank guy on it? The beat reporters are loopy.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Fri Dec 08, 2023 9:42 pm

El Guapo wrote:
Jaymann wrote: ↑Fri Dec 08, 2023 6:02 pm To the Blue Jays? I thought Ohtani likes Southern California. The Blue Jays aren't even in the same country. At least not to the Dodgers or Yankees. The Blue Jays?
Maybe he's not getting along as well with his family in Japan anymore?

Here's your big signing you were waiting for

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Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:29 pm

Ohtani to the Dodgers.

Pyperkub · Post by **Pyperkub** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 5:31 pm

For$700 million

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:03 pm

Glad Giants lost out, Glad the dodgers will have their money tied up for years to come and hopefully end up paying dearly for it.

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Jaymann · Post by **Jaymann** » Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:52 pm

naednek wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:03 pm Glad Giants lost out, Glad the dodgers will have their money tied up for years to come and hopefully end up paying dearly for it.

Agreed. To commit $.7 billion on one player who has already had Tommy John Surgery. I love Ohtani but damn, Sam.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:34 am

Jaymann wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:52 pm
naednek wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:03 pm Glad Giants lost out, Glad the dodgers will have their money tied up for years to come and hopefully end up paying dearly for it.
Agreed. To commit $.7 billion on one player who has already had Tommy John Surgery. I love Ohtani but damn, Sam.

Sales of Dodgers gear and TV rights in Japan should help pay for it. Ohtani wanting his pay spread out makes it easier. And if Ohtani isn’t the same on the mound as a DH he will be solid for many years.

It will be fun seeing how many splash HR’s he hits in SF.

But the Dodgers still need pitching.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:58 am

Scuzz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:34 am
Jaymann wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:52 pm
naednek wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:03 pm Glad Giants lost out, Glad the dodgers will have their money tied up for years to come and hopefully end up paying dearly for it.
Agreed. To commit $.7 billion on one player who has already had Tommy John Surgery. I love Ohtani but damn, Sam.
Sales of Dodgers gear and TV rights in Japan should help pay for it. Ohtani wanting his pay spread out makes it easier. And if Ohtani isn’t the same on the mound as a DH he will be solid for many years.

It will be fun seeing how many splash HR’s he hits in SF.

But the Dodgers still need pitching.

Hate to tell you (not really, I love to tell you) the dodgers are still gonna choke in October.

Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 3:31 am

At least they will choke later than the Giants.

El Guapo · Post by **El Guapo** » Sun Dec 10, 2023 12:48 pm

Scuzz wrote: ↑Sun Dec 10, 2023 2:34 am
Jaymann wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 11:52 pm
naednek wrote: ↑Sat Dec 09, 2023 9:03 pm Glad Giants lost out, Glad the dodgers will have their money tied up for years to come and hopefully end up paying dearly for it.
Agreed. To commit $.7 billion on one player who has already had Tommy John Surgery. I love Ohtani but damn, Sam.
Sales of Dodgers gear and TV rights in Japan should help pay for it. Ohtani wanting his pay spread out makes it easier. And if Ohtani isn’t the same on the mound as a DH he will be solid for many years.

It will be fun seeing how many splash HR’s he hits in SF.

But the Dodgers still need pitching.

Yeah apparently most of it gets paid out after the 10 years is over, Bobby Bonilla-style. Apparently the AAV of the contract (which I guess is what matters for the luxury tax) is "only" $40MM per year or so.

naednek · Post by **naednek** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:15 pm

Dodgers doing some shady shit. How is this even allowed

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/390 ... lepAvV_gMI

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Scuzz · Post by **Scuzz** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:24 pm

naednek wrote: ↑Tue Dec 12, 2023 1:15 pm Dodgers doing some shady shit. How is this even allowed

https://www.espn.com/mlb/story/_/id/390 ... lepAvV_gMI

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Because the league says it’s okay. If you want to complain about anyone it should be Ohtani for agreeing to it, even asking for it.

But don’t worry, with out pitching the Dodgers won’t win it all again.

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Tue Dec 12, 2023 2:11 pm

They have to put his deferred comp in escrow. Wonder who is getting interest on that.