Saskatchewan approves same-sex marriage

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:46 pm

Story

Becomes the seventh Canadian province to legalize this.

Yankeeman84 · Post by **Yankeeman84** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:47 pm

This effects the U.S. how?

Al · Post by Al » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:48 pm

We're not allowed to talk about Canadian politics here?

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:48 pm

Yankeeman84 wrote:This effects the U.S. how?

Oh wait, i'm sorry the world revolves around America!

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:49 pm

It makes the US look stupid.

But really, you're right Yankeman. There is no global nuance to politics so if it isn't directly about the US, it isn't important.

Tareeq · Post by **Tareeq** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:51 pm

Isn't Saskatchewan the place that Sasquatches come from?

Yankeeman84 · Post by **Yankeeman84** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:53 pm

I am just curious how this effects us. It doesn't matter what country we talk about. I just want to know how this plays on us.

Al · Post by Al » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:53 pm

Bigfoot is in the closet? That explains a lot.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:53 pm

No, you're thinking of Saskatoon.

Tareeq · Post by **Tareeq** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:56 pm

I hear Chewbacca is gay.

Yankeeman84 · Post by **Yankeeman84** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 6:57 pm

LOL ^^^^^^

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:03 pm

Tareeq wrote:I hear Chewbacca is gay.

When did the Chewbacca Defence come into play? Hmmmm

Yankeeman84 · Post by **Yankeeman84** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:05 pm

Right after Luke Skywalker hugged him in the Return of the Jedi.

I knew something was up with him too.

Rabid moth · Post by **Rabid moth** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:08 pm

It doesn't really effect the U.S.

The U.S's stance does effect Canada however, as gays from the states coming here to wed have become a massive industry in Canada....

geezer · Post by **geezer** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:14 pm

Yankeeman84 wrote:This effects the U.S. how?

I livein the US, and well, for one, I just felt the bond between my wife and I weaken. I also find myself leering at the cat a bit more than usual.

On the flip side, my wife is reconsidering adding another woman or two to our bonds of marraige.

Spock's Brain · Post by **Spock's Brain** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:23 pm

Sounds like it's time for a regime change. Well, that and we need to secure the free flow of bacon and maple syrup. We yanks love breakfast.

gellar · Post by **gellar** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:27 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:No, you're thinking of Saskatoon.

I hate that godforsaken town.

gellar

Yankeeman84 · Post by **Yankeeman84** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:28 pm

I livein the US, and well, for one, I just felt the bond between my wife and I weaken.

How?

setaside · Post by **setaside** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:29 pm

Make sure you guys let us know when the Canadian government falls into ruin and total anarchy breaks out due to allowing gay couples to marry, ok?

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:33 pm

geezer wrote:I livein the US, and well, for one, I just felt the bond between my wife and I weaken.

I felt the same way about my wife! Uh, if you want to come over, and, uh, talk about it . . . .

Tareeq · Post by **Tareeq** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:38 pm

Mr. Fed wrote:
geezer wrote:
Yankeeman84 wrote:This effects the U.S. how?
I livein the US, and well, for one, I just felt the bond between my wife and I weaken.
I felt the same way about my wife! Uh, if you want to come over, and, uh, talk about it . . . .

Take it to a hotel right now. One on the seedy end of town.

Goddamn preverts spreading your preversions all over this forum. Next you'll be marrying bigfoots.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 7:39 pm

Tareeq wrote: Goddamn preverts spreading your preversions all over this forum. Next you'll be marrying bigfoots.

No, God intended marriage to be between Adam and Eve, not Adam and Harry.

And as for Chewbacca -- don't get me started on the morals of that. As Johnnie Cochran would say, "If he's a Wookie, you get no nookie!"

Discalced · Post by **Discalced** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 8:59 pm

Mr. Fed wrote: And as for Chewbacca -- don't get me started on the morals of that. As Johnnie Cochran would say, "If he's a Wookie, you get no nookie!"

"If his name's Chewbacc, you get no cock"?

Ranulf · Post by **Ranulf** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:35 pm

geezer wrote:
Yankeeman84 wrote:This effects the U.S. how?
I livein the US, and well, for one, I just felt the bond between my wife and I weaken. I also find myself leering at the cat a bit more than usual.

On the flip side, my wife is reconsidering adding another woman or two to our bonds of marraige.

Next you'll be joining Peta, moving to a compound in the forest and mating with a lama.

Al · Post by Al » Fri Nov 05, 2004 10:37 pm

First you let those gays get married and next thing you know it'll be okay to make out with your sister.

The Mad Hatter · Post by **The Mad Hatter** » Fri Nov 05, 2004 11:25 pm

In case people are curious, Saskatchewan is a rural prairie province that's big on gun ownership and more traditional cultural values. They're not as much in opposition to urban central Canada as Alberta but it's still pretty conservative. The provincial government is Conservative and 13 out of 14 MPs in Parliament are Conservative. The American equivalent would be states like the Dakotas and Wyoming. In other words, not the usual suspects for supporting gay rights.

Beergut · Post by **Beergut** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:34 am

3 things Canada has that the United States doesn't:

1) Universal Healthcare
2) Tolerance for those with different beliefs or lifestyles
3) Separation of Church and State

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 12:55 am

Beergut wrote:3 things Canada has that the United States doesn't:

1) Universal Healthcare
2) Tolerance for those with different beliefs or lifestyles
3) Separation of Church and State

4) GOD BLESS THE QUEEN!!!

Petey Wheatstraw · Post by **Petey Wheatstraw** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:03 am

Beergut wrote:3 things Canada has that the United States doesn't:
2) Tolerance for those with different beliefs or lifestyles

Even tolerance for those who believe that homosexuality is wrong? I'm not seeing a lot of that. "Tolerance" ain't a one way street, you know.

3) Separation of Church and State

Funny. I missed the part where the US had a state-sponsored religion. And just because a majority of people have a certain religious belief does NOT equal a state-sponsored religion, no matter how much one tries to claim that.

Tareeq · Post by **Tareeq** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:08 am

Beergut wrote:3 things Canada has that the United States doesn't:

1) Universal Healthcare
2) Tolerance for those with different beliefs or lifestyles
3) Separation of Church and State

4) Preventable deaths caused by hospital employees who can't be fired for failing to wash their hands.
5) Government censorship of "hate speech" and other controversial ideas.
6) Shocking insularity and ignorance of the history and culture of nearby countries.

I'm sure animals living in cages feel the trade of freedom for security is worthwhile too. We all have our rationalizations.

setaside · Post by **setaside** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:12 am

Even tolerance for those who believe that homosexuality is wrong? I'm not seeing a lot of that.

I'm plenty tolerant of those who believe homosexuality is wrong ... all the way up until they start trying to pass laws and amend constitutions to keep gay people from having the same rights as straight people. Yeah, I can get a little intolerant at that point.

Did you vote for the gay marriage ban in your local state? If you haven't had the vote yet ... would you?

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:23 am

Tareeq wrote: 6) Shocking insularity and ignorance of the history and culture of nearby countries.

LOL

Fireball · Post by **Fireball** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:27 am

Petey Wheatstraw wrote:
Beergut wrote:3 things Canada has that the United States doesn't:
2) Tolerance for those with different beliefs or lifestyles
Even tolerance for those who believe that homosexuality is wrong? I'm not seeing a lot of that. "Tolerance" ain't a one way street, you know.

Tolerance in that sense must be the same as tolerance for those who think that interracial marriage is wrong: You can have that view, you can talk about it all you want, but you're not allowed to impose it or use the state to impose it on other people.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 1:28 am

Beergut wrote: 2) Government-enforced tolerance, on pain of prosecution, for those particular different beliefs or lifestyles that the government chooses to protect

Fixed.

The Mad Hatter · Post by **The Mad Hatter** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:16 am

Mr. Fed wrote:
Beergut wrote: 2) Government-enforced tolerance, on pain of prosecution, for those particular different beliefs or lifestyles that the government chooses to protect
Fixed.

The hate crime laws are unfortunate but that's a huge exaggeration of their impact here. Ditto Tareeq's vastly misleading header on government censorship of online hate speech, which simply doesn't exist here. It's pretty funny for an American to talk about trading freedom for security. Your house is made of glass, my friend.

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:30 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:
Mr. Fed wrote:
Beergut wrote: 2) Government-enforced tolerance, on pain of prosecution, for those particular different beliefs or lifestyles that the government chooses to protect
Fixed.
The hate crime laws are unfortunate but that's a huge exaggeration of their impact here. Ditto Tareeq's vastly misleading header on government censorship of online hate speech, which simply doesn't exist here. It's pretty funny for an American to talk about trading freedom for security. Your house is made of glass, my friend.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:30 am

The Mad Hatter wrote:
Mr. Fed wrote:
Beergut wrote: 2) Government-enforced tolerance, on pain of prosecution, for those particular different beliefs or lifestyles that the government chooses to protect
Fixed.
The hate crime laws are unfortunate but that's a huge exaggeration of their impact here. Ditto Tareeq's vastly misleading header on government censorship of online hate speech, which simply doesn't exist here. It's pretty funny for an American to talk about trading freedom for security. Your house is made of glass, my friend.

Didn't I also read that Canada is detaining someone indefinitely without charges as some sort of threat to national security?

I wasn't suggesting that the hate crimes laws (which I regard as a silly way to achieve social justice, as opposed to the law permitting gay marriage in question in this thread, which is fantastic and something to be proud of) are pervasive. Rather, I was suggesting they were something one might take into account in portraying one country as free and enlightened and the other as the opposite. Hence the smiley. They are a little disturbing to my eye. But not my country, not my laws.

Of course, while I was at it, I should have taken a swing at this one as well:

) Separation of Church and State

CSL · Post by **CSL** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:32 am

Mr. Fed wrote: Didn't I also read that Canada is detaining someone indefinitely without charges as some sort of threat to national security?

*cough*

Edit: Waiting for you to make up something witty and kick my ass, especially if you were being sarcastic.

Mr. Fed · Post by **Mr. Fed** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 3:41 am

You missed the point -- MH alluded to some of the frightening steps that America has taken during the "war on terror," and I pointed out that Canada is not above reproach in that regard. All in service of my original point that neither side is some sort of utopia of freedom.

Tareeq · Post by **Tareeq** » Sat Nov 06, 2004 9:29 am

The Mad Hatter wrote: It's pretty funny for an American to talk about trading freedom for security. Your house is made of glass, my friend.

That slight sting is pride, fucking with you. Fuck pride. Pride only hurts, it never helps.