Lars Lynching Liasons 4: Game has ended

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:44 am

Ralph I'm curious as to this quote you wrote

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:So after the most research I've done all game, I am going on record to say that of pr0ner, Nameless, or setaside, one of them is either a wolf or the sorcerer.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:49 am

Mr Bubbles wrote:Ralph I'm curious as to this quote you wrote
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:So after the most research I've done all game, I am going on record to say that of pr0ner, Nameless, or setaside, one of them is either a wolf or the sorcerer.

Interesting. Can you provide me a link so I can look at it (or tell me what page it was on)? Thanks.

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:54 am

2681 post. 22131 views.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:12 am

My current suspicion list.

Setaside
Ralph
Chaos

Im still analyzing, but I think Chaos is an important person here.. I can't tell you how often it was posted in the past that it was between Seta Ralph and I.

Ralph I'm not sure if you're innocent, but reading back through Setaside's posts he's moved on up. I suggest you review Setasides posts. I'm not sure I have the time to pull everything out, but he's been on my ass evefn before Chris "scanned" me.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:17 am

I'll check them out.

Wasn't Chaosraven supposed to be doing that? We're at the end game and now he's slacking??

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:24 am

here it is

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:41 am

Mr Bubbles wrote:here it is

Ah ok. That was based on Lars taking a while to update the game and so I looked back on who was on a lot and who wasn't. But, as Lars later said, it turns out that he waits a good bit of time after he receives the PMs before he posts the results. So my whole analysis (and all the work I did

) was for naught.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:50 am

I've pretty much ruled you out because you were one of the first who voted for Chris. I pretty much ruled Chaos out because he had pick most of the wolves from the beginning. So that leaves me and Setaside. I think it's really going to depend on who you and Chaos pick. I will leave that up to you guys. I can only say after reviewing the thread I think you two are clear. so I'm pretty sure its a pick between Seta and me. It just seems to me I've been his pet project since I made a benign comment about waxing the wolves. But I won't cast my vote until you guys talk it over.. so get your ass in gear Chaos.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:04 pm

Paging Mr. Chaos. Paging Mr. Chaos....

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:20 pm

Oh sorry, I eated him.

Edit:

of course.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:26 pm

Aren't you guys done yet?

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 6:29 pm

I'm here.

I will return shortly with my list *again*

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:14 pm

setaside wrote:Interesting that the ever silent Nameless pops up the moment he finds out CG is one vote away from lynching to cast the final vote (8 minutes after Lars' post as a matter of fact).

If there is no death tonight, then I am cursed. Before that happens, I'm calling Nameless a wolf. Call it my last push for the village.

setaside wrote:Wait ... CG cleared Nameless didn't he?

Then my suspicion is definitely Chaos.

These are from the day before Kelric was killed in the night, when we (FINALLY) hung ChrisGrenard.

The choices we were given were Ralph-Wiggum and Chaosraven as the Unscanned. Which pr0ner of course bought into, having been on CGs side since night two.

Chaosraven wrote:Interesting idea here...

if setaside was "cursed" we would hold off on lynching him, right?

our strategy involved letting the "Proven NonWolf Cursed Guy scanned by the Seer" live *until* a night went by with no kill, yes?

So the "Seer" and the "Cursed" would keep on living... today (assuming the Village had decided to Lynch either Ralph or I) and today there would have been "Seer(wolf)", "Cursed", and pr0ner all buddy buddy. Needing only one sucker to play patsy with an early vote for someone...

...and Bang. Vote reaches Majority, lynch kill win.

This is me, that morning.

Chaosraven wrote:First List
Kraegor - Dead. Innocent
Kelric - Dead. Mason
Mr. Bubbles - Alive, ID'd innocent by Wolf
setaside - Alive, ID'd Cursed villager by Wolf
Ralph-Wiggum - not ID'd
Remus West - Dead. Medium.

Second List
Kraegor - Dead. Innocent
setaside - Alive, ID'd Cursed villager by Wolf
Remus West - Dead. Medium.

These were the lists that people were using when pr0ner put forth the "Didn't vote for LordMortis" strategy.

I then asked him why he wasn't voting for setaside based on his own strategy.

This added to my belief that pr0ner was the sorcerer.

IIRC these lists were Who Didn't Vote for LM but DID vote for Zurai.

Chaosraven wrote: First Day: LynchMortis (WOLF)

SirReal - Zurai, Nameless, Lassr, LordMortis
LordMortis - Nameless, Bakhtosh, pr0ner, Kelric, Lassr, Cesare, Mr Bubbles, SirReal
ChrisGrenard - Nameless, LordMortis

setaside - Nameless, Kelric, Nameless, Cesare, SirReal
chaosraven - PR_GMR, ChrisGrenard, SirReal, LordMortis, LordMortis
Ralph-Wiggum - Chaosraven (joke vote), SirReal
Mr Bubbles - Remus West, SirReal

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Second Day: Lynch Zurai (NonWolf)

SirReal - Kraegor, Zurai
ChrisGrenard - Chaosraven, Zurai

chaosraven - pr0ner, Bakhtosh
setaside - Zurai, Remus West, Kraegor, tru1cy, Zurai
Mr Bubbles - Zurai
Ralph-Wiggum - Zurai, Remus West

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Third Day: Lynch SirReal (WOLF)

SirReal - Kraegor
ChrisGrenard - Kraegor

Mr Bubbles - Remus West, Kraegor, Kraegor, SirReal
Chaosraven - Cesare,
Ralph-Wiggum - SirReal
setaside - no vote

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Fourth Day: Lynch Kraegor (Innocent)

ChrisGrenard - Kraegor

Mr Bubbles - Kraegor
Chaosraven - ChrisGrenard
Ralph-Wiggum - Kraegor
setaside - no vote

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Fifth Day: Lynch Bakhtosh (NonWolf)

ChrisGrenard - no vote

Mr Bubbles - Bakhtosh
Chaosraven - Bakhtosh
setaside - Bakhtosh
Ralph-Wiggum - Bakhtosh

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Sixth Day: Lynch ChrisG (WOLF)

Ralph-Wiggum - ChrisGrenard
setaside - ChrisGrenard
Chaosraven - ChrisGrenard, ChrisGrenard
Mr Bubbles - ChrisGrenard

This was my post regarding his posting habits.

I am not going to dig up all his earlier "suspicions" of who could be Sorcerer... except to note that when the LM discussion was underway, suddenly the possibility of Wolves in this game returned to the front of his mind.

X could be sorcerer, Y could be sorcerer, Z could be sorcerer.
LM could be sorcerer or wolf.

Hmmmm.

X,Y, and Z would have Lynched as Human (or in the case of Grund was eaten by the Wolves already) so we would have to have a Priest ID the bodies.

Yet LM was the one he noted could also be a Wolf.

Nameless wrote:My immediate suspicion was setaside, due primarily to ChrisGrenard's naming of him as the cursed. That would tend to make us less suspicious of setaside than others. On the other hand, he must have known he couldn't pull off the seer act for long, so he might have named setaside as cursed specifically so we'd go along this route.

And you guys hung him.

setaside wrote:I've got to go with my gut on this one. It's a toss up between Mr B and Nameless.

Nameless

Starting with this vote.

At this point the only vote cast was by pr0ner for Chaosraven.

So despite the fact that pr0ners own strategy should have pointed to setaside... he votes for me.

Despite setaside 'suspecting' me at long last, he votes for Nameless.

setaside wrote:You know what sucks about this ...
The wolves know the roles of those they've eaten. If the wolves have nabbed any special, they all of a sudden have a last minute out to use in an attempt to save their own hides.
This sucks.

Exactly what LordMortis and SirReal were discussing "in Public"

So funny enough despite the NUMBER of NONWOLVES playing this game...

...hmmm... who brings it up as "Unfair to the Poor Old Townsfolk"?

Berserker Wolf and Wolf and... setaside? The only "good guy" who feels it important to complain about the rules of the game?

Much of this stuff is On Pages 65 and 66 when I was trying to explain why I would not vote for Nameless.

Last note:

Why did the Wolf choose to have setaside as "cursed"?

I think it is because we would hold off on hanging the cursed player for a day after a night with no kill. I think it is because we would continue to let the "Seer" live as he had not given us a Wolf.

And honestly I think CG could have lasted right up until today if he hadn't left me as (1) an uneaten Villager (2) one of the final two that HAD to be wolves.

Setaside

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:43 pm

just feels like Setaside has been trying to play the fence. He pushed really hard to lynch me. Why? Well probably because I'm an easy target. I hope I'm right this time.. If not.. oh well.. won't be the first or the last time.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:04 pm

setaside

edit: I hope you guys are right....

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:11 pm

Of course If I was wrong, I get 100% of the damned blame, no doubt...

OR WAS I THE BEST WOLF EVER?

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:13 pm

If the last wolf is Mr. Bubbles, I'm going to have Remus punch you in the nuts.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:17 pm

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:28 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:If the last wolf is Mr. Bubbles, I'm going to have Remus punch you in the nuts.

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:29 pm

(Game over man, game over!)

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:36 pm

Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:37 pm

Chaosraven wrote:Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?

Now I got that scene in Return of the Jedi where Luc and gang partying with the ewoke and The ghosts appear to join the party.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:39 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?
Now I got that scene in Return of the Jedi where Luc and gang partying with the ewoke and The ghosts appear to join the party.

Frenchie.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:41 pm

Chaosraven wrote:
Mr Bubbles wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?
Now I got that scene in Return of the Jedi where Luc and gang partying with the ewoke and The ghosts appear to join the party.
Frenchie.

Well I guess it's a good thing we aren't going after the French today my friend. Now sit down with me and have a crepe.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:42 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:
Chaosraven wrote:Maybe we could build a fire, sing a couple of songs, huh? Why don't we try that?
Now I got that scene in Return of the Jedi where Luc and gang partying with the ewoke and The ghosts appear to join the party.

Yub nub, eee chop yub nub;

Ah toe meet toe peechee keene,

G'noop dock fling oh ah.

Yahwah, eee chop yahwah;

Ah toe meet toe peechee keene,

G'noop dock fling oh ah.

Coatee chah tu yub nub;

Coatee chah tu yahwah;

Coatee chah tu glowah;

Allay loo ta nuv.

Glowah, eee chop glowah;

Ya glowah pee chu nee foam,

Ah toot dee awe goon daa.

* Coatee cha tu goo; (Yub nub!)

Coatee cha tu doo; (Yahwah!)

Coatee cha tu too; (Ya chaa!)

Allay loo ta nuv,

Allay loo ta nuv,

Allay loo ta nuv.

Glowah, eee chop glowah.

Ya glowah pee chu nee foam

Ah toot dee awe goon daa.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 8:44 pm

And so Ralph-Wiggum, Mr Bubbles, and Chaosraven sat down amongst the ashes of the Town. One Innocent, One Villager, and One Townsfolk.

setaside had run away knowing they would hang his furry ass if they caught him.

Good guys win. Th' End. Yay Us.

(and if Lars never ever comes back we can just call that the ending...)

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:22 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:If the last wolf is Mr. Bubbles, I'm going to have Remus punch you in the nuts.

If the last wolf is not Setaside he is getting punched in the nuts.

setaside · Post by **setaside** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:28 pm

I'm not a wolf.

Bad guys win. Great job guys.

And since you can't retract votes, there's no reason to disbelieve me. I'm NOT a wolf.

My guess is Chaosraven was the last wolf.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:39 pm

setaside wrote:I'm not a wolf.

Bad guys win. Great job guys.

And since you can't retract votes, there's no reason to disbelieve me. I'm NOT a wolf.

My guess is Chaosraven was the last wolf.

If Chaos is a wolf then I will applaud his effort. That was a damn ballsy thing to do. I won't feel too bad either way.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:41 pm

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:42 pm

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:43 pm

Ralph-Wiggum wrote:

Oh if this is true.. Im punching myself in the nuts.

ChrisGrenard · Post by **ChrisGrenard** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:44 pm

Mr Bubbles wrote:
Ralph-Wiggum wrote:
Oh if this is true.. Im punching myself in the nuts.

Take fist, begin downward motion.

Mr Bubbles · Post by **Mr Bubbles** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:45 pm

I blame myself for this one. I should have saw it. Ralph damnit... Now I'm pissed. I had you pegged and I obviously read into Setaside wrong. After all he was trying get me lynched. Well played you punk!

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:47 pm

If it's any consolation, Mr. Bubbles, I asked that you be killed tonight. I wanted Chaos to have to face me during the day.

setaside · Post by **setaside** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 9:54 pm

setaside wrote:I don't have the time to sit down and write up a big post but suspicions lie roughly in this order:

Chaosraven (it's starting to really feel like he's been playing us all)
Mr Bubbles (too convenient for him to have been cleared by ChrisG)
Ralph-W (Just hasn't done too much to raise suspicion for me).

Given my track record, I'd probably vote for R-W just because I'm always wrong.

See ... I should always go for the guy at the bottom of my suspect list.

Lassr · Post by **Lassr** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:12 pm

Could you all not hear me screaming at my monitor it's Ralph Dammit!

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:45 pm

Nice work, Ralph! You should feel good about this one.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:23 am

Oh sure, post the confession AFTER I see Chaosraven so I don't punch him in the nuts tonight. Now he is going to be avoiding me for weeks.

Ralph-Wiggum · Post by **Ralph-Wiggum** » Fri Mar 16, 2007 12:26 am

Remus West wrote:Oh sure, post the confession AFTER I see Chaosraven so I don't punch him in the nuts tonight. Now he is going to be avoiding me for weeks.

How about instead of the nuts you just punch him in whatever anatomical picture your avatar displays?