Stargate: Universe

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 8:46 am

Supposedly the ancients fled the Ori 1,000,000 years ago. Which means they had to be around as homosapien for longer than that. I find it hard to believe their physical bodies were identical to what ours are now. They showed holograms of them from 10,000 years ago and they still looked identical. Surely in a million years plus their bodies would have evolved to be something a lot different. I know they reached ascension but that seems to have been around 10,000 years ago.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Sun Oct 11, 2009 11:39 am

IIRC the Ancients had a different organ or two and they could heal others with their mind or that internal organ or something.

Daveman · Post by **Daveman** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:05 pm

How's everyone else liking the show so far? I'm still enjoying it... but I'd like it if they could get past the "Lost" factor a little sooner and move on to something else. I'm not sure how many more episodes of them stuck in a dark, broken ship I can take.

hepcat · Post by **hepcat** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:28 pm

I'm watching it almost entirely due to the cast, but so far the stories have been better than I was expecting. It could still use some real action to get me excited for the show each week, though. However, I'm fully aware that it's a tough balancing act as right now they're doing a pretty good job with the human side of the stories (something that very few sci fi shows get right). Focusing too much on "alien of the week" stories could tip it away from that.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 2:32 pm

Daveman wrote:How's everyone else liking the show so far? I'm still enjoying it... but I'd like it if they could get past the "Lost" factor a little sooner and move on to something else. I'm not sure how many more episodes of them stuck in a dark, broken ship I can take.

+1

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:12 pm

What they said. At least they didn't see the problem coming, have the problem and solve the problem all in one episode.

Kyosho · Post by **Kyosho** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:47 pm

I'm in agreement. I'm liking it and will watch it regardless, but seriously, DO SOMETHING. I'm enjoying the character-driven-ness of it but I hope stuff actually happens eventually. I like that they're making us ask a lot of questions and setting up a lot of stuff that they're not just tying up in a single episode. But come on!

The next episode has potential, I suppose. We'll see.

Everybody likes to compare this to Battlestar Galactica. Is this what Battlestar Galactica was/is like? Maybe it's a good thing I didn't watch it after all.

Wargus · Post by **Wargus** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 3:50 pm

Battlestar Galactica was grittier.

This is voyager meets ds9 meets sliders meets galactica.

Rowdy · Post by **Rowdy** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:02 pm

What I'm wondering is when the writers will realize that they're ignoring a powerful tool in the ancient communication stones.

They're making such a big deal of Rush being the only qualified scientist on the ship. Why not put McKay (since Atlantis just landed) or Carter or anyone else on the Destiny via the stones to give Rush a hand?

(other than ruining the plot device, of course)

Daveman · Post by **Daveman** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:12 pm

Wargus wrote:This is voyager meets ds9 meets sliders meets galactica.

Don't forget Lost! Nevermind the overall "bunch of people stranded in a mysterious place" sense... the scene on the desert planet where the Lt. is seemingly led to the vitally important lake bed by an image of someone from his past was practically lifted right out of one of the early Lost episodes.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 4:31 pm

Are we sure those are communication stones? He only claims they are. As I recall when he looked in the case it looked more of a nuke type thing to me. Why would the Icarus outpost have a case of communication stones anyways?

Kyosho · Post by **Kyosho** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:13 pm

Daehawk have you only watched the first episode? More than one person have used them by now. And the reason they had them at the base was exactly for this situation. For when they got the ninth chevron working and sent their expedition.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 5:20 pm

Rowdy wrote:What I'm wondering is when the writers will realize that they're ignoring a powerful tool in the ancient communication stones.

They're making such a big deal of Rush being the only qualified scientist on the ship. Why not put McKay (since Atlantis just landed) or Carter or anyone else on the Destiny via the stones to give Rush a hand?

(other than ruining the plot device, of course)

I was thinking that during this last episode as well.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 7:38 pm

Kyosho wrote:Daehawk have you only watched the first episode? More than one person have used them by now. And the reason they had them at the base was exactly for this situation. For when they got the ninth chevron working and sent their expedition.

Ohh ok then. Yes only watched the first one. have the next 2 on the DVR. Been catching up on all this season's Eurekas. Watched 4 yesterday

Odin · Post by **Odin** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 8:01 pm

Interesting article on IO9. Summarizes some of the less complimentary SGU opinions about all of the characters (particularly the females) being stereotypes, useless, or both.

I not only can't say I especially disagree, but I'm having a lot of trouble working up enthusiasm for this show at all. I've watched all three of the episodes so far and liked them well enough, but they didn't exactly knock my socks off. I plan to keep watching it for a while, but I wouldn't say I'm a fan so far.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:25 pm

Sith Lord wrote:Interesting article on IO9. Summarizes some of the less complimentary SGU opinions about all of the characters (particularly the females) being stereotypes, useless, or both.

I not only can't say I especially disagree, but I'm having a lot of trouble working up enthusiasm for this show at all. I've watched all three of the episodes so far and liked them well enough, but they didn't exactly knock my socks off. I plan to keep watching it for a while, but I wouldn't say I'm a fan so far.

I've got the last two on Hulu. Not bothering to commit to a Friday evening hour and don't own a DVR.

Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Mon Oct 19, 2009 9:43 pm

Daveman wrote:
Wargus wrote:This is voyager meets ds9 meets sliders meets galactica.
Don't forget Lost! Nevermind the overall "bunch of people stranded in a mysterious place" sense... the scene on the desert planet where the Lt. is seemingly led to the vitally important lake bed by an image of someone from his past was practically lifted right out of one of the early Lost episodes.

Not to mention the sirocco that leads him to the calcium is analogous to the smoke monster. And the kid is a lot like Hurley.

I'd call this Lost meets The Time Tunnel.

After the first two episodes, I'm hooked. Haven't watched the most recent one yet.

pengo · Post by **pengo** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 8:24 am

Spoiler:

Kelric wrote:
Rowdy wrote:What I'm wondering is when the writers will realize that they're ignoring a powerful tool in the ancient communication stones.

They're making such a big deal of Rush being the only qualified scientist on the ship. Why not put McKay (since Atlantis just landed) or Carter or anyone else on the Destiny via the stones to give Rush a hand?

(other than ruining the plot device, of course)
I was thinking that during this last episode as well.

Spoiler:

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 10:39 am

I like the show. They are obviously ripping off every other suspense sci fi drama released in the past few years.

dunno if after 4 eps I would start complaining about sexism... altho perhaps it's because I'm of the demographic that likes that chick with the huge rack... who happens to be militant and tough but curvy... nah... I don't see a stereotype in that role... having the camera positioned exactly at breast line.... nah nothing suspicious here.... hell that's prolly a reason I still watch Primeval course that's an assline shot for a different chick...anyways... skipping past the obvious cast make-up... which is the usual checklist of "hey have we stroked everyone's ego? cuz if not we can cast someone else to fill that gap..." ....

the major arc seems like an interesting premise... enough to continue watching and see where it leads.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:43 am

What chick has the huge rack? I must investigate this.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:48 am

Daehawk wrote:What chick has the huge rack? I must investigate this.

Darkness (ep 4).

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 11:53 am

Well from looking online I can only guess its Julia Anderson.

Bikini pic link

That her? the nudes I saw would seem to point to her.

Kelric · Post by **Kelric** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 12:10 pm

Probably her. Watch the episode.

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Tue Oct 20, 2009 1:15 pm

Julia Benson

Not much on Google tho

pengo · Post by **pengo** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 7:46 am

Don't think that pic is her? But her name is Julia Anderson/Benson.. Anderson is her name before she got hitched I've read elsewhere.

Rawrkan · Post by **Rawrkan** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 9:42 am

yeah it is

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Kraken · Post by **Kraken** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 6:43 pm

She has got enormous talent.

Jeremy · Post by **Jeremy** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:14 pm

I watched a handful of SG1 epsiodes when it first aired but called it quits when it was clear they weren't going to repeat the full frontal female nudity of the premiere episode. Damn bait and switch!

I tried this new one as something to watch between now and when Doctor Who comes back but it hasn't really grabbed me yet. (Although I did notice the aforementioned young lady and her enormous breasts last week. Great actress!)

I will say this: the Eli character is nowhere near as annoying as he could have been and serves as a pretty good voice for the audience. There's a writing term for that, I'm sure.

Daehawk · Post by **Daehawk** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 8:25 pm

Ive only watched the first ep so far but Im hoping they find a planet of amazon women and take back a tribe or two with them. And keep the small tiny barely there outfits of course. Dont civilize them!

Doomboy · Post by **Doomboy** » Wed Oct 21, 2009 10:23 pm

I hope they stop ending each episode on a cliff hanger.

pengo · Post by **pengo** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 6:20 am

the removed the full frontal nudity in the re-release of the stargate sg1 first episode. also the actor that plays tealc, re-recorded all his lines..

qp · Post by qp » Thu Oct 22, 2009 7:02 am

Jeremy wrote:I watched a handful of SG1 epsiodes when it first aired but called it quits when it was clear they weren't going to repeat the full frontal female nudity of the premiere episode. Damn bait and switch!

I tried this new one as something to watch between now and when Doctor Who comes back but it hasn't really grabbed me yet. (Although I did notice the aforementioned young lady and her enormous breasts last week. Great actress!)

I will say this: the Eli character is nowhere near as annoying as he could have been and serves as a pretty good voice for the audience. There's a writing term for that, I'm sure.

Well you're missing out on 15 seasons of sci-fi fun then!

Odin · Post by **Odin** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 8:02 am

qp wrote:Well you're missing out on 15 seasons of sci-fi fun then!

At least 12 or 13 seasons worth, anyway. SG-1 and SG:Atlantis were certainly two of the better sci-fi shows on TV in recent memory.

Incidentally, for anyone interested, my blog post today (linked in my sig) is about SG:U.

Kraegor · Post by **Kraegor** » Thu Oct 22, 2009 10:18 am

I will support that the SG series is fun and easy to watch aside from the usual pointless one-off episodes and the lame-ass flashback episodes... First season was a bit shakey but the following 9 were pretty good for SG-1... SG:Atlantis same formula except for the inclusion of not 1 but 2 annoying characters.... the Dr. who turns into a whiney bitch randomly and the scientist who is a whiney bitch constantly... but one can tolerate it since the show does not take itself seriously. I prefer the SG:1 cast over the SG:A cast. SG:1 chars are simply easier to like even the replacement guy was easy to like.

SG:U... complete departure. bears no similarity to it's predecessors aside from the '"hop a gate. visit a planet. walk in 1 direction. PROFIT!!!" but the drama/pacing are all ripoffs of BSG/Lost. SG:U would seem to be an attempt to get REALLY SERIOUS! Stop Laughing!

considering it is the 3rd SG franchise... a reboot of the storytelling mechanics was a smart move. one huge central story arc. being stranded removes the option of ending an arc and "going home for the day" (lost). the cinematography is another shift, imo. keeping things in close and tight. makes a boring dialogue scene more tense and interesting (bsg).

right now... I have no idea what to think of the characters of SG:U. the only scene in the 4 episodes thus far that sucked... was the dumbass

Spoiler:

pengo · Post by **pengo** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 7:55 am

not much happened this episode but I liked it nonetheless (for the cgi and music, really loving some of the music !)..

Spoiler:

dbt1949 · Post by **dbt1949** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:06 am

That was a pretty "cool" episode. I loved how they "solved" the problem.

pengo · Post by **pengo** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:52 am

at times rush is definately show signs of that lost in space evilish scientist.

Daveman · Post by **Daveman** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 8:59 am

I thought it was a great episode, and will second the comment about the music in particular. Random comments thus far:

- Where did the relationship between Chloe and Lt. Scott come from? My memory of the pilot episode is a little hazy but I don't recall any longing glances between the two of them.

- Since it's been mentioned before, I thought the solution at the end with the shuttle felt Stargate-style forced and obvious. The way the show has been paced so far I was expecting that to get resolved next episode.

- I didn't even think of the Dr. Rush twist at the end and I absolutely loved it. He's probably my favorite character of the bunch.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:26 pm

It feels more and more like BSG. The tone of the show, the situations and the episode titles are far more BSG than Stargate.

Yeah, I didn't see Lt. Scott and Chloe coming. It just seemed to come out of nowhere as there was nothing indicating it in the previous episodes, only Eli and Chloe. It felt unecessary. I figure it was a plot device to get Eli and Chloe together once he was gone.

Odin · Post by **Odin** » Sat Oct 24, 2009 2:29 pm

Rumpy wrote:Yeah, I didn't see Lt. Scott and Chloe coming. It just seemed to come out of nowhere as there was nothing indicating it in the previous episodes, only Eli and Chloe. It felt unecessary. I figure it was a plot device to get Eli and Chloe together once he was gone.

I don't remember the specifics, but I do recall the two of them starting to get close somewhere near the end of last week's episode.