[WW] The Rule of Thirds - The Meer win everything

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:23 pm

Let me know if you need a player to round things out.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:28 pm

Trig, Lassr, & Chaos would fill up the Alternate Plan Game, right?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:33 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:I just hope I don't roll Dragon!

I would like to just tell 'whomever gets the Drago role':

Your role is gonna be a tough one to see to the end - but I think it will be a fun one to play.. You are a bit of a 'spoiler' to everyone else, with a Long-Shot victory of your own to shoot for.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:34 pm

stessier wrote:Trig, Lassr, & Chaos would fill up the Alternate Plan Game, right?

They would.

Shall we do that?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:38 pm

Unagi wrote:
stessier wrote:Trig, Lassr, & Chaos would fill up the Alternate Plan Game, right?
They would.

Shall we do that?

Yes please! Add Remus as the Jester!!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:41 pm

stessier wrote:
Unagi wrote:
stessier wrote:Trig, Lassr, & Chaos would fill up the Alternate Plan Game, right?
They would.

Shall we do that?
Yes please! Add Remus as the Jester!!

Remus isn't on the sign-up, pal.

and there are 3 Jesters.... (stop confusing people!)

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:43 pm

Remus would be the King of Jesters! Like a Dragon in reverse - he knows them, but they don't know him and they win with him. But the Jesters are part of each court. Fun!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 3:55 pm

Currently I am just waiting for confirmation from Lassr, Chaos, and Triggercut.

Upon their confirmation, I will get things started most likely tomorrow morning (perhaps tonight).

And then just to set everyones expectations:

I plan to start the game in the DAY Phase.

Next week we have a few players that are going to have low attendance, and as such - I hope this is one of those "long Day-Ones".

Everyone can argue about the rules and get themselves in hot water....

After the Christmas Weekend, I expect things will ramp up and get back to our normal pace.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:38 pm

You need a kibitz and I am more than willing to mock folks for their decisions - correct or incorrect, it wouldn't matter to me. I'm an equal opportunity mocker.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:39 pm

Unagi wrote:After the Christmas Weekend, I expect things will ramp up and get back to our normal pace.

Sure, you post this now after I failed to sign up knowing full well I'd be back by then.

The mod hates me.

Chaosraven · Post by **Chaosraven** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 4:54 pm

Oh, I am so burnt out on these- man, I can't even type that with a straight face. IN, OF COURSE.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 6:27 pm

Remus West wrote:The mod hates me.

Went so far as to take down the site to keep you from playing!!!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 9:53 pm

I was reading the rules and it struck me this part here was perhaps the one part that Contestants should be sure they understood as a foundation of the game.

Beyond this, it's about using the Macht Stones at night (and navigating the Day phase, as always) in a way to help secure your win.

Unagi wrote:The worst thing that could happen to any Kingdom is for the charm on The Keys to be attuned to a fallen leader (unheld). The peoples of this leaderless Kingdom would be crippled by despair and any galvanized Kingdom would easily dominate it.

It is the goal of each Kingdom to have that condition set upon the other two Kingdoms by the end of this contest.

It is the goal of the Dragon to have that condition set upon ALL of the Kingdoms by the end of this contest.

At the start of the contest each Kingdom's Keys are attuned to the King of that Kingdom.

Should that Contestant fall, The Keys are considered unheld, and the Kingdom's people are without leadership. It is up to the remaining Contestants of that Kingdom here to either Re-attune their Kingdom's Keys to themselves or Resurrect the fallen King post haste!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:18 pm

Sectoid wrote:
LordMortis wrote:No idea how to play but I was invited, so in I guess. Just don't expect much from me.
We never do. Sorry, had to.

That's as it should be. I might be the worst player ever.

Semaj · Post by **Semaj** » Thu Dec 16, 2010 11:50 pm

Bahktosh is back playing and I am not... coincidence? I think not...

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:30 pm

Alright, roles are going out.

Remus West · Post by **Remus West** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 4:32 pm

Unagi wrote:Alright, roles are going out.

Not to me.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:27 pm

The Contest has begun...

The arena is huge, easily 500 feet in diameter. The perimeter of the arena is defined by hundreds of small alcoves, each with an iron portcullis drawn upwards inside it's arched portal.

Each contestant enters the arena from his own alcove, separated from his neighboring contestant by about 20 arches.

As the warriors draw together, they eye each other for any sign of familiarity. It's useless, the illusion placed over the arena has rendered them all in gray-tones, without character or flourish.

"Sixteen?" remarks one of the warriors.

They all know that's one too many.

"Dod!?" One of the warriors accuses another. Everyone looks back at the arches, as the hundreds of portcullises close for the day.

The accusing warrior spins around to yet another contestant, "Or maybe YOU!?".

A second warrior exclaims "We're ruined! Dod has infiltrated the contest!"

Everyone draws their weapon and takes a good step back and tries to assess the situation.

One thing is certain, they have a Dragon problem.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:27 pm

Please use the accuse tag to place votes:

Code: Select all

[accuse]Gilgamesh[/accuse]

Gilgamesh

A new vote implies the withdraw of your previous vote, otherwise please Withdraw Gilgamesh

The Contestants
1. Qantaga
2. Lagom Lite
3. msteelers
4. tru1cy
5. Newcastle
6. Isgrimnur
7. stessier
8. Bakhtosh
9. Sectoid
10. Grundbegriff
11. LordMortis
12. Mr Bubbles
13. Brossi
14. Triggercut
15. Lassr
16. Chaosraven

Majority Votes: 9

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:27 pm

Votes:

No vote: Qantaga, Lagom Lite, msteelers, tru1cy, Newcastle, Isgrimnur, stessier, Bakhtosh, Sectoid, Grundbegriff, LordMortis, Mr Bubbles, Brossi, Triggercut, Lassr, Chaosraven

Majority: 9

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:33 pm

Question -

What are we told upon Lynching? The Jester Role suggests the position in the House. Is that all we learn? Or also the House itself? Even the position leaves little room for lying...not that I would ever do that!

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:45 pm

Unagi wrote:The Contest:
Each of the Three Kingdoms will be represented by their King and 4 high ranking Champions. (That's 3 Identical Five-Player teams)

Kings will not know the identity of their Champions.

Champions will know the identity of their King.

Each Contestant will be given 2 Macht Stones - to be used on a night and in the manner of their choosing.

Once per game, if a night starts and every living contestant is out of Macht Stones, each contestant will be given 1 additional Macht Stone

Death will publicly reveal the rank of the fallen (or dragon)

Sorry, that's buried way up at the top - in a big section called "The Contest"

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 5:48 pm

Dude, it's like the last bullet point! My eyes glaze over after the...hey look, shiny object!

Spoiler:

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 6:51 pm

So wait...
You're telling me I get to Bakhshot TWO people in this game?

Awesome!

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:07 pm

Unagi wrote:Winning Conditions:

For your Kingdom:
Day breaks and [/color]The Keys to both other Kingdoms are attuned to a fallen contestant. (unheld) - your Kingdom is victorious.

NOTE: The Dragon does not need to be vanquished in order for a Kingdom to be victorious

For the Dragon:
Day breaks and The Keys to ALL other Kingdoms are attuned to a fallen contestant. (unheld) - the Dragon is victorious.

NOTE: The Dragon does not need to be in attendance in order for the Dragon to be victorious

It will be nearly impossible for the Dragon to win, since his condition of three unheld keys comprises some other kingdom's condition of two unheld keys. It would take a remarkable coincidence of three or two keyholder deaths by night (depending on whether on is already unheld) for him to win.

Good luck with that.

Question: I understand that when Alfred falls, Bowdoin can reattune Alfred's keys to Bowdoin and thereby become de facto leader of Alfred's kingdom. Is it also possible, when Alfred falls, for Bowdoin to reattune Alfred's keys to Carolus and thereby make Carolus (rather than himself) the new leader?

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:23 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:Question: I understand that when Alfred falls, Bowdoin can reattune Alfred's keys to Bowdoin and thereby become de facto leader of Alfred's kingdom. Is it also possible, when Alfred falls, for Bowdoin to reattune Alfred's keys to Carolus and thereby make Carolus (rather than himself) the new leader?

No, the reattune is a spell that is against one's self and the keys that may be looking for a life-force. The Target is really more the location at which one hopes to find those keys.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:26 pm

Checking in. I'm not the Dragon, woo.

So this is the Game thread also? And the Jesters are new last I saw, I see they're just regular pawns who scans as "King".

I agree with Grundbegriff. To fix the Dragon victory condition, you could add that no Kingdom may win until the Dragon is dead. That means if two keys become Unheld, the last Kingdom won't win and Dod has a window of opportunity to kill the final keyholder.

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:27 pm

Since champions know the name of their king, but the king doesn't know them, and they don't know each other, this should be an interesting day.

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:29 pm

stessier

because he uploaded an avatar all of a sudden and that's surely a tell.

Bakhtosh · Post by **Bakhtosh** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:29 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:Checking in. I'm not the Dragon, woo.

So this is the Game thread also? And the Jesters are new last I saw, I see they're just regular pawns who scans as "King".

I agree with Grundbegriff. To fix the Dragon victory condition, you could add that no Kingdom may win until the Dragon is dead. That means if two keys become Unheld, the last Kingdom won't win and Dod has a window of opportunity to kill the final keyholder.

Yeah...way to stay stealthy there, Dod!

Lagom Lite · Post by **Lagom Lite** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:32 pm

Bakhtosh wrote:
Lagom Lite wrote:Checking in. I'm not the Dragon, woo.

So this is the Game thread also? And the Jesters are new last I saw, I see they're just regular pawns who scans as "King".

I agree with Grundbegriff. To fix the Dragon victory condition, you could add that no Kingdom may win until the Dragon is dead. That means if two keys become Unheld, the last Kingdom won't win and Dod has a window of opportunity to kill the final keyholder.
Yeah...way to stay stealthy there, Dod!

Better send your knights, don't forget to clad them in tasty bun armor.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 7:40 pm

Instead of doing these to you guys behind the scenes, I'm just going to share all of the Boilerplates that everyone got, so that everyones on the same page.

(you've all seen this):
Your Leader:

You glance about the contestants, looking at each man's eyes.
As you look at Aethelred, it's clear in your heart and mind; this is the man you call King

King Role:

You are King _____.
You know you are only the "King" because of these keys in your pocket, but that doesn't dilute your honor.
The charm spell on these keys has galvanized your people and has made them unquestionably loyal to you; and that makes your Kingdom remarkably strong.

And as great as that is, you know it's only a spell, and should that spell break - your people will fall into chaos.

Should you fall, all may not be lost: As long as at least 2 kingdoms remain 'galvanized' they will be kept in check, and no one Kingdom will make a move on our Kingdom - giving us the critical time needed to re-establish the charm.

So you enter this arena with your 4 champions... and look across at the other contestants.

The magic set upon this huge arena masks the kingdoms different colors and you all appear to be gray, colorless warriors - indistinguishable from one another.

I quick headcount reveals 16 Contestants, where there should be 15.

Immediately you know who has infiltrated this contest: Dod

Dod will be after every Kingdom's keys, and he will not be vulnerable to the attacks of the Macht Stones.

You now have 2 concerns; the survival of your Kingdom at the hands of man, and the survival of your Kingdom at the claws of a dragon.

Champion Role:

You are _____ ______.
You know your King is only the "King" because of the keys in his pocket, but that doesn't dilute his honor, nor your loyalty.

The charm spell on these keys has galvanized your people and has made them unquestionably loyal; and that makes your Kingdom remarkably strong.

And as great as that is, you know it's only a spell, and should that spell break - your people will fall into chaos.

Should your King fall, all may not be lost: As long as at least 2 kingdoms remain 'galvanized' they will be kept in check, and no one Kingdom will make a move on our Kingdom - giving us the critical time needed to re-establish the charm.

So you enter this arena with your King and 3 other champions... and look across at the other contestants.

The magic set upon this huge arena masks the kingdoms different colors and you all appear to be gray, colorless warriors - indistinguishable from one another.

I quick headcount reveals 16 Contestants, where there should be 15.

Immediately you know who has infiltrated this contest: Dod

Dod will be after every Kingdom's keys, and he will not be vulnerable to the attacks of the Macht Stones.

You now have 2 concerns; the survival of your Kingdom at the hands of man, and the survival of your Kingdom at the claws of a dragon.

Dod Role:

You are Dod.

How many generations have you been haunting these lands? You've lost count.
And while your reign of terror has been long, you've never been able to demoralize the population and really enjoy yourself.

They endure.

And you are tired of it.

When you heard rumor of a contest, a contest where the Kingdoms' charmed Keys were at stake, you made sure you didn't miss that contest.

So you enter this arena in human form, alone. and you look across at the other contestants.

The magic set upon this huge arena masks the kingdoms different colors and you all appear to be gray, colorless warriors - indistinguishable from one another.

You concider if it's even noticed that there is an extra contestant, when it's made perfectly clear it is.

A gray-toned warrior barks in your face, Dod?! - and then quickly moves to another warrior - "Or maybe YOU!?"

"We're ruined!
"Dod has infiltrated the contest!"

You hold back a smile.

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:23 pm

Unagi wrote:Instead of doing these to you guys behind the scenes, I'm just going to share all of the Boilerplates that everyone got, so that everyones on the same page.

(you've all seen this):
Your Leader:
You glance about the contestants, looking at each man's eyes.
As you look at Aethelred, it's clear in your heart and mind; this is the man you call King

But... but... isn't he unready?

Grundbegriff · Post by **Grundbegriff** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:41 pm

Unagi: You forgot one:

The Barracks
President : You Won.
Veep : If anything happens to the President, you will be forced into retirement to prevent your succession.
SpeakerMinority Leader : Last in the hearts of your countrymen.
President pro tempore : As long as you leave no fingerprints, you'll be free to run the show.
Predecessor : Clever enough to get your policies fronted by the opposite Party. If analyzed impartially, your policies will show as those of the current President.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 8:46 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:Unagi: You forgot one:

The Barracks
President : You Won.
Veep : If anything happens to the President, you will be forced into retirement to prevent your succession.
SpeakerMinority Leader : Last in the hearts of your countrymen.
President pro tempore : As long as you leave no fingerprints, you'll be free to run the show.
Predecessor : Clever enough to get your policies fronted by the opposite Party. If analyzed impartially, your policies will show as those of the current President.

homerun, really.

Unagi · Post by **Unagi** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:11 pm

Moderator's Rule Update: I think this small change will help.... and it makes sense too, if you think about it this way:

Dod must be vanquished, for any Contestant to even leave the arena, (much less win)

So, I've made this change to your Kingdom's Winning Conditions. :

Winning Conditions:

For your Kingdom:
Day breaks and The Keys to both other Kingdoms are attuned to a fallen contestant (unheld) and Dod has been vanquished from the contest - your Kingdom is victorious.

Please do still note:

Winning Conditions:

For the Dragon:
Day breaks and The Keys to ALL other Kingdoms are attuned to a fallen contestant. (unheld) - the Dragon is victorious.

NOTE: The Dragon does not need to be in attendance in order for the Dragon to be victorious

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:15 pm

Grundbegriff wrote:Unagi: You forgot one:

looks like your an Obama fan, wanted to get you to donate to Speaker Pelosi's 2012 Victory fund! How bout the big Barry fund? Want to help him?

Never new you were such a leftist Grund!

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:25 pm

Lagom Lite wrote:Checking in. I'm not the Dragon, woo.

Lagom

I think this shows he is the dragon. I don't know about the rest of you, but after I got my alignment, the dragon was the furthest thing from my mind. I can win while the dragon lives. I can't while the other two kings do and that's where all my scheming went.

Am I the only one?

Newcastle · Post by **Newcastle** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:46 pm

or you could be the dragon trying to fake someone else is the dragon!

stessier

*cough cough, you cant win while the dragon is alive! if you are a non dragon! which i am doubting due to this blatant oversight *cough cough*

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Dec 17, 2010 9:56 pm

Newcastle wrote:*cough cough, you cant win while the dragon is alive! if you are a non dragon! which i am doubting due to this blatant oversight *cough cough*

Ok, so what I learn from this is I should refresh before posting - because that was not the rule when I started writing my post. Unagi