Marvel Puzzle Quest

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:01 am

I completely forgot! Sorry. Although I've been playing like a fiend last night and a bit this morning.

I will try to join this afternoon.

Any way to transfer ISO so I can help pay for the alliance?

Also, read something that was curious and I need to confirm with you guys.

I read that the PVE events slowly increase in how many "points" they award over time, and that winning increases the difficulty.

The conclusion is that if you play a PVE event just after it starts, you get the least amount of points, yet make future matches within that event tougher.

Is that correct?

That would explain why I'm so highly ranked when the event starts, and why I drop significanly when it comes close to ending. I just thought that people were busy doing other things but when the event was going to end they played like mad to catch up in rank.

So I'm basically screwing myself twice by playing early and winning. Is that correct? Fuck. That's a bit dumb. Oh well. Now I know, assuming you guys confirm.

Struggling with some nice covers sitting in the wings. Sold **CaptA because the rest that are waiting are better. Still, I was sad.

Frustrating. I hope I come up with some Hero Points from somewhere, soon. A 50 HP reward isn't going to cut it. I need LOTS.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 2:55 pm

I have absolutely no idea how to team manage or what I should be doing to improve things over the long term. I bought my way up to 7 slots, but am only really running 4-5.

-*- Iron Man Model 35: 4-4-5; Level 35
-*- Hawkeye Classic: 5-3; Level 28
-*- Black Widow Modern: 2-5; Level 18
*-* Thor Marvel Now!: 3-0-0; Level 16
*** The Hulk Indestructible: 1-0-0; Level 15
*** The Punisher Dark Reign: 1-0-0; Level 15
*-* Captain America Modern: 0-0-1; Level 6

Given that I haven't seen any way except random draws to improve the bottom 3, I'm thinking I should just sell them. For lack of space, I've sold off a lot of basic Storm and Juggernaut covers, but I don't want to waste all my funds boosting Common characters.

Any recommendations?

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 4:24 pm

GG >> I don't know of a way to transfer ISO, but there isn't anything to pay for regarding the alliance. No maintenance costs or anything, (and I had the ISO to start it, at the time, so no worries there). So basically, no need to pay. And also, no problem with not joining up. It's a very loose idea of an alliance. Basically we all get a little extra for what we already do in-game. That's about it.

Also, I can't confirm your PVE theory. I'm not sure how all the points work.

Isg>> I generally team manage by having three heroes who combined, can use all color gems. I think my starting team was Hawkeye, Black Widow and Iron Man. Iron Man was my heavy hitter. Then I got some Thor covers, and he became my heavy hitter. I think Hawkeye got replaced by Storm (Modern). Eventually, I was able to max out Storm (M), and Thor. I used Black Widow for a long time (and a couple different versions).

These days, my team is Thor (heavy hitter), Storm (Classic) (AOE damage, stun), and Black Widow (stun). But your team will really depend on what covers you can get. I don't see Thor covers as much there days.

According to what you have here's my advice:
Iron Man, Hawkeye and Black Widow are a decent starting team. Level up those you can get covers for. I don't buy covers with Hero Points, but I will target cover rewards in PVE missions, and PVP events. If you can get a couple more Thor covers, he can become pretty useful. According to a wiki (http://marvelpuzzlequest.wikia.com/wiki ... Marvel_NOW!)) you can get at least one cover in each power with PVE rewards.
Eventually, I'd drop Hawkeye. He isn't very powerful, even maxed out.
I have Hulk, but have yet to get covers to make him worthwhile.
I have yet to get a Punisher.
My Captain America has all powers (at levels 2-3 I think), yet I still never use him.
I think a maxed Storm or Juggernaut can get you farther than the rare, gimped character.

My one disclaimer is that I bought hero points to "support the developer", at the start of the game. I still haven't used them all, (especially you can slowly earn them back). But pretty much all I use them on is roster space. I'm up to like a crazy number of slots at this point, so I didn't play the decision game of who to keep and who to get rid of. I bet that can be a tough juggle, and I don't have much advice for that. Sorry.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 5:57 pm

I'm in O.Overlords. Just waiting on a confirmation I believe. edit2: Ok, I'm in. Thanks!

I joined with my desktop game. That game was started after I learned a thing or two so it's a bit different from my phone game.

Anyway, Plugging away at it.

Edit: Oh, here's the latest community poll/ratings on the heroes. Not all heroes are rated because some hadn't come out yet and some weren't around long enough to have an accurate opinion of yet.

end of march hero ratings

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 6:42 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:I have absolutely no idea how to team manage or what I should be doing to improve things over the long term. I bought my way up to 7 slots, but am only really running 4-5.

-*- Iron Man Model 35: 4-4-5; Level 35

-*- Hawkeye Classic: 5-3; Level 28

-*- Black Widow Modern: 2-5; Level 18

*-* Thor Marvel Now!: 3-0-0; Level 16

*** The Hulk Indestructible: 1-0-0; Level 15

*** The Punisher Dark Reign: 1-0-0; Level 15

*-* Captain America Modern: 0-0-1; Level 6
Given that I haven't seen any way except random draws to improve the bottom 3, I'm thinking I should just sell them. For lack of space, I've sold off a lot of basic Storm and Juggernaut covers, but I don't want to waste all my funds boosting Common characters.

Any recommendations?

There are a few things to managing your roster. The obvious part is picking good heroes and leveling them up. The harder part is the transition for 1 star heroes to 2 star heroes, and again from 2 star to 3 star. There are some heroes who hit outside their weight class, but on the whole, 2 stars are better than 1 stars, and 3 stars are better than 2 stars.

So deciding when it's time to transition can be tough. Of course if you have enough character slots you can simply recruit every hero that comes your way and then just wait for the covers to drop, but for the rest of us, having a viable 1 star team is necessary to get enough 2 star covers to drop. After that, having a backup team is useful if you like to let your A team heal naturally. The B team can still generate some ISO and whatnot.

I've used the ratings list I posted, plus reading up on individual heroes to get a better idea of my current roster and to help decide on possible future recruitments.

Quickly, but most of what I'm going to say is available on their forums, I'll tell you what I think of what you have right now.

Iron Man model 35 is rated rather poorly, yet is a staple of every beginner's team. He's good, but not good enough for end game. Myself and plenty of other people rely on IM35.

Hawkeye (classic, or chawkeye) is universally panned. Might as well sell him for the roster slot. He *can* be useful early on, but it won't take long to find someone better.

Black Widow (modern) is almost always a staple of a beginner's team. She also introduces you to stun locking, which is important later on. She's pretty good, but you'll find better fairly early. ALL Black Widows are awesome. This one is the least awesome of the 3 I can think of off the top of my head.

Thor (Marvel Now!) is very good. Top 10 if I remember correctly. He was #1 until he was nerfed. He's still good. Lots of people replace IM35 with Thor early on. I never get enough covers to make that viable until IM35 is plenty high level.

The Hulk is a GREAT defensive hero. He's weak on offense. So what you do is before you quit playing for the night (or whatever) you build a team of defensive specialists and fight a match in PvP. This will protect you somewhat as lots of people will skip you for being too dangerous. And those that fight you are often in for a nasty surprise (except for those that completely outlevel/out hero you). He's a long term investment that only pays off on defense. You decide on whether he's worth it or not. This early in the game? Might be wise to sell him. I have kept him. For now.

The Punisher is awesome. Top 5-6ish hero if I remember (not looking at my own link). I've only ever seen him as a powered up dude so I don't know what he's really capable of, but consensus is he's good.

CaptA (modern). I had a heckuva time trying to figure out which CaptA the rankings where referring to. I believe it is this one. Same with Thor. The new 3 star thor is better than the 2 star thor, but which was rated? I think the ratings are for 2 star thor and 2 star Captain America. If that's the case, CaptA (modern) is a bottom 3rd hero. Abilities are pretty good but costs are too high. He's a support hero.

I have 2 games going, one with 10 slots and one with 11 (Pretty sure, will have to verify). I haven't paid a dime yet and am no great shakes at the game. You listed 7 characters. If I were you, I'd just grind some PVE missions and grab up the HP that you find there. It's too early for you to start dumping heroes, as you'll have new slots soonish.

That said, here's my kick list:

Chawkeye
The Hulk
CaptA

Boot these 3 *If* you need room. Otherwise there's no harm in letting them sit around in your roster. You never know when one will be powered up for an event or whatever. If don't need the slot for someone waiting in the wings, why both kicking anyone?

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:22 pm

FWIW, I don't shy away from Hulk. I mean, if he's high level w/ ton of HPs, and other hero or two are also bricks, then yeah, I might skip that player. But if it's Hulk and a squishy storm, and widow, or something similar, I might take it. If I can hit my Thor/Green power, or Storm/blue power, I can knock out most of the team. So yeah, I just don't find the Hulk that valuable. The 2-3 star heroes might be great, but if I can't get covers to power them up, they're worthless to me. I'm not paying hero points to open up their play.

Was looking at Season 1 overall awards... it's all covers. Mostly covers I have and maxed out, but if I wasn't, I'd be all over that. Level up a Storm, and widow (?).

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Sun Apr 27, 2014 11:41 pm

I forgot to mention that Juggernaut is another PvP skip magnet. Juggernaut is actually not a bad starter hero either. He's got a ton of hit points, and when you get a few covers his abilities are pretty cheap.

At higher levels, people tend to avoid Juggernaut and Hulk if they have decent levels.

I have a mid level juggernaut (about 25-30) and an unleveled Hulk (so 15). Since I've started using then on defense, I've noticed my points haven't been dropping as much as before, and when someone does attack me, I get the occasional win.

It's not foolproof, it just acts as a deterrent. So says the internet, and my limited observations somewhat corroborate.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:05 am

I played one of the event missions and went up against a sniper. I didn't bother to look at his powers. Once one of my people was one-shotted for 1500 points, I changed my tack on learning what the enemies do.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:17 am

Got a Repulsor Blast (red) for Iron Man, so I moved him from 4-4-5 to 5-4-4. The drop in blue only costs me one turn of stun, didn't drop the damage, while netting me a red increase in damage.

TazFTW · Post by **TazFTW** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:25 am

Baroquen wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. I play at least once a day, to keep my daily gift streak intact.

Just so you know you can take a break and it won't reset the daily reward. So if you just earned day 20, took a week off from playing, the next time you win will give you day 21.

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:33 am

Good to know, as that's what I have been doing lately too... Just playing one match for the daily reward

Stefan Stirzaker · Post by **Stefan Stirzaker** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:26 am

Just requested to join alliance

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 12:50 pm

Baroquen wrote:Was looking at Season 1 overall awards... it's all covers. Mostly covers I have and maxed out, but if I wasn't, I'd be all over that. Level up a Storm, and widow (?).

As a just starting player, Covers are almost all I want. Of course you need ISO to level your guys, and Hero Points to open new slots, but neither of those are important if you don't have covers.

Was going to write more but had a 3 hour meeting in between starting post and sending it. Can't remember now.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:18 pm

Got some new covers this morning from the events that ended last night. Got a few things from the alliance as well. Iso and maybe a 1 star cover? Don't recall. It all came in at once.

On a positive, you're right, alliances are just extra rewards, not extra work. Sweet.

Oh, and a fun one, I opened a 1 star cover this morning and lo and behold, (3 star. There's only 1 of him atm) Black Panther, one of the top 5 heroes curently.

Nice that they allow a bit of random chance to find a better covers than you are expecting.

That's how I got hulk too.

I also had a modern hawkeye drop. He's weak, but there are niche uses for him that sound fun. Unfortunately I don't have room for him and even if I did have an open slot or two, there are better covers waiting. I guess I'll wait until his time is up then sell him.

Oh, stratergeries: Since the events are constantly powering up heroes, it might be a good idea to keep 1 slot free, AND not sell covers until the time has run out. The idea is that if an event comes up and you have one of the powered up heroes waiting in the wings, you can sell off something weak and recruit the powered up hero for the event's duration. After that, if a new event comes along and you have THAT hero in the wings, you can sell off the first hero and recruit the new one.

Essentially keep a slot available for heroes that you don't really want as part of your roster, but are powered up for an event. Then just rotate new heroes in as events call for them.

Of course you only get 7 days before the cover disappears (I assume, haven't let time run out yet), but 7 days is a long time in this game, you might get a lucky event/hero combination.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 1:31 pm

Yeah, I spent a good portion of time hammering away at the events and got our rank up. Not a fan of the current Falcon event.

Yeah, with the cover rewards, there's a floor, and I assume a set variability for each level. A 2-star cover means you won't get anything less than that, and could be a 3 star. One-stars can get you anything, but the likelihood is heavily in favor of 1-stars.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:21 pm

Pushed hard on one of the events and was in a top 300 (247 or something) rank with less than an hour to go but when I got up this morning I had dropped into a top 400 rank. Still good, still got a specific cover reward (rather than the generic, open this and see what you get). I think that's how I got Modern Hawkeye.

I *think* what I outlined above is true. You want to play mostly at the end of the event. Playing as the event starts, and especially winning, is probably counter-intuitive to actually performing well over all.

I'm going to keep paying attention to see if I can identify any trends. Or I can just look for corroboration on the internet. Either is good. Corroboration from smarter people than me would be better.

It's funny, but my first events when I first started the game went really, really well. I had no idea how well until after I had been playing for a few weeks and haven't come close to doing that well again. I got a Human Torch cover from the very first event I did, and he was used in several events thereafter, powered up, so that really helped.

Still frustrated with hero slots, although I have 12 now on my phone (10 or 11 on the PC which is part of our alliance). Better covers are dropping and it's hard to keep viable heroes while still clearing space for the new ones. Doesn't help that I'm a bit of a collector and this game is (partially) about collecting. Who wouldn't want every single hero in the game, if they could? Picking ones to discard hurts more than it should.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 2:22 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Yeah, I spent a good portion of time hammering away at the events and got our rank up. Not a fan of the current Falcon event.

Yeah, with the cover rewards, there's a floor, and I assume a set variability for each level. A 2-star cover means you won't get anything less than that, and could be a 3 star. One-stars can get you anything, but the likelihood is heavily in favor of 1-stars.

Yep. If you read carefully (I don't) it actually says something to that effect when you're collecting your rewards from the "packs".

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:16 pm

With event ranks, you have 1-2 things that can impact your ranking. If it's a PvE event, obviously anyone playing after you has the opportunity to outscore you and push you down. For PvP events, you have people engaging your teams directly, and you lose points when they beat you.

For the current Falcon event, I hit the 100 points needed to obtain the stockpile award, but have since been pared down to 82. I can't really progress further than my #337 rank because it won't slot me any opponents that don't massively outrank me with at least a couple 40+ characters.

Playing late limits the amount of time that you can be targeted by players and have your points reduces in PvP. I doubt when you play during PvE has any impact on what your final position would be, just the timing makes it seems so, as there will always be someone to surpass you later.

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:17 pm

Boy I wish I had played enough to get some Falcon covers... His yellow power would synergize with Spiderman well

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:32 pm

IceBear wrote:Boy I wish I had played enough to get some Falcon covers... His yellow power would synergize with Spiderman well

Isn't Spidey's yellow one of his main selling points? Unless Falcon's yellow is passive, this would be conflict, not synergy, no?

I guess I'm asking, what do you mean? (I don't have access to the game right now).

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:37 pm

Falcon's yellow is a passive that increases offensive and defensive tiles when you match yellow. I just had two of Spiderman's pink defence tiles blocking 250 damage each by the end of a fairly quick match. Could just imagine how nasty that might be with strike tiles from The Punisher or Dr Doom

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:39 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:With event ranks, you have 1-2 things that can impact your ranking. If it's a PvE event, obviously anyone playing after you has the opportunity to outscore you and push you down. For PvP events, you have people engaging your teams directly, and you lose points when they beat you.

For the current Falcon event, I hit the 100 points needed to obtain the stockpile award, but have since been pared down to 82. I can't really progress further than my #337 rank because it won't slot me any opponents that don't massively outrank me with at least a couple 40+ characters.

Playing late limits the amount of time that you can be targeted by players and have your points reduces in PvP. I doubt when you play during PvE has any impact on what your final position would be, just the timing makes it seems so, as there will always be someone to surpass you later.

OK, but I'm sure I read that the game sets the matches (in PvE) successively harder as you win, and that the matches award more points the closer to event ending deadline.

I'm not saying it's true, just that I'm sure I read it (somewhere) not just hypothesized. Without corroboration I wouldn't count on it as true though. I will look, later, since it's important to know as it would change how I approach the PVE events.

When you lose, you don't lose many points, so it might be worth fighting and losing if that helps you get easier matches in the future. I don't know, just speculating. I too have been stuck in PvP events with matches that aren't even close to doable.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:41 pm

IceBear wrote:Falcon's yellow is a passive that increases offensive and defensive tiles when you match yellow. I just had two of Spiderman's pink defence tiles blocking 250 damage each by the end of a fairly quick match. Could just imagine how nasty that might be with strike tiles from The Punisher or Dr Doom

Cool!

I'm starting to get some top 10 covers. Now I just need to get enough to start leveling them, and also either read up on synergies or figure some out for myself. Some are obvious, but there is some subtlety to the game, and I'm not sure I have the mental energy to figure them out on my own.

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 3:52 pm

Actually, I was just thinking how good that ability would be with Draken and Bullseye.

TazFTW · Post by **TazFTW** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:03 pm

GreenGoo wrote:I read that the PVE events slowly increase in how many "points" they award over time, and that winning increases the difficulty.

The conclusion is that if you play a PVE event just after it starts, you get the least amount of points, yet make future matches within that event tougher.

Is that correct?

That would explain why I'm so highly ranked when the event starts, and why I drop significanly when it comes close to ending. I just thought that people were busy doing other things but when the event was going to end they played like mad to catch up in rank.

So I'm basically screwing myself twice by playing early and winning. Is that correct? Fuck. That's a bit dumb. Oh well. Now I know, assuming you guys confirm.

Struggling with some nice covers sitting in the wings. Sold **CaptA because the rest that are waiting are better. Still, I was sad.

Frustrating. I hope I come up with some Hero Points from somewhere, soon. A 50 HP reward isn't going to cut it. I need LOTS.

You've been reading the dev forums so you've probably seen the terms "rubber banding" and "community scaling" mentioned.

Rubber Banding is that the farther away you are from the leader the more points your nodes will be worth. If you start late then you are far off from the lead and can slingshot your way up the standings. Another reason to start late is that you would avoid being in a bracket with the "dedicated" players, the ones that grind all the nodes to get the most points possible. This is not a guarantee as some dedicated players join at weird times to avoid other dedicated players.

Community Scaling is some algorithm the devs use to increase the levels of the AI during the event. A node can start off as easy with say level 30 AI but at the end of the event that same node could be deadly with 230+ level enemies. The scaling takes into account how many times it is beaten globally (not bracketed), how much health your team has at the end, how fast you beat it, and probably some other things. This is why Spidey needs a nerf because people could easily beat high level AI with Spidey's stun. The devs released a patch that increased the max level AI from 230 to 400 as a direct result to Spidey.

So you have the quandary of starting late for rubber banding but starting early enough to unlock all the missions before they get difficult. If you do not have the required character for the Essential nodes, you need to grind away on the regular nodes. If you do have the required character(s), you can start late because those Essential nodes are worth more points and less people play them because they do not have the character and thus the scaling isn't as bad.

IceBear · Post by **IceBear** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 4:17 pm

Yeah, I have beaten very high hammer ai brackets just because Spidey could keep them stunlocked the whole time. It took awhile but pretty much never took any damage. I suspect if they nerf Spiderman I will just go back to Black Widow. Spiderman is pretty low damage output and the only nerfs I can think of would mean I would prefer Black Widow (if I need healing) or classic storm

TazFTW · Post by **TazFTW** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 5:10 pm

Isgrimnur wrote:Given that I haven't seen any way except random draws to improve the bottom 3, I'm thinking I should just sell them. For lack of space, I've sold off a lot of basic Storm and Juggernaut covers, but I don't want to waste all my funds boosting Common characters.

Any recommendations?

I think you need to reconsider and bring back Modern Storm (1 star). A 5 green/5 red/3 black Storm on the desert level is a thing of beauty. You can beat many higher level (2-star/incomplete 3-star) teams with Storm on the desert level. Best 1-star in the game. She's squishy so she needs a tank (IM35/Wolverine/Thor) to protect her while you match red and green.

GreenGoo wrote:CaptA (modern). I had a heckuva time trying to figure out which CaptA the rankings where referring to. I believe it is this one. Same with Thor. The new 3 star thor is better than the 2 star thor, but which was rated? I think the ratings are for 2 star thor and 2 star Captain America. If that's the case, CaptA (modern) is a bottom 3rd hero. Abilities are pretty good but costs are too high. He's a support hero.

The list you linked to has the 2-star Cap and Thor listed. Lazy Thor was just released when voting occurred and Lazy Cap was not released.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:14 pm

Awesome info all around TazFTW! Also, thanks for confirming which CaptA and Thor were in the ranking list. I was pretty sure it was the 2 stars, but not 100% sure.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:29 pm

Ok, taking a look at the alliance's rosters.

Baroquen has 30 of the game's 35+ heroes, so I'm gonna make some comments on Izzy's. It's just info that I've picked up, not gospel, so read and discard as you will.

Bag-man is the worst hero in the game, or close to it. Sell, especially since you haven't invested in him yet.

I personally decided to sell my 2 start CaptA. I have better uses for the slot he was taking up.

IM35, modern BW, 2 star Thor are all staples of a early player's roster. Keep them all for a long while. Thor is good far into the future. BW has her uses too. IM35 will be replaced and never used again, but you need him right now. CHawkeye is pretty weak, but given the ISO you've invested in him, and the rest of your roster being undeveloped as of yet (mine is too, that's just the way it goes) I would keep him. You need higher level heroes and right now CHawkeye is one of yours. Boot him when you can, and don't put any more ISO into him, but use him in the meantime. That's my opinion. He's useful just starting out, but has no end game use.

I have no idea beyond what I wrote earlier about the hulk.

Taz is right about storm. Classic and Modern storms are both pretty good. I really like Classic and wish I had more covers so I could level her more. On the plus side, you should get lots of covers of Modern so she should be easy to rebuild if you decide to get her back.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 6:34 pm

My roster for anyone following along or interested:

33 *IM35
26 *Juggernaut
25 *MStorm
25 *MBW
15 ***The Hulk (starts at this level)
14 **Thor
8 **Ares
6 **OBW
6 **CStorm
1 *Hawkeye

Waiting to be claimed are:

**CaptA
***Black Panther (awesome apparently)
**Magneto (I am having good success with him on my other team)
****Wolverine (crap. Might be buffed sometime in the future)

Since I'm playing 2 games, I might get confused about which team has what, if I'm working from memory, but the above is accurate right now.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:25 pm

I just managed to win a PvE mission under Venom's story pack with 18 health left on Black Widow only because I stun locked the hitman.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:51 pm

Cool.

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 7:56 pm

TazFTW wrote:
Baroquen wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. I play at least once a day, to keep my daily gift streak intact.
Just so you know you can take a break and it won't reset the daily reward. So if you just earned day 20, took a week off from playing, the next time you win will give you day 21.

Cool. Thanks Taz. Good to know. I thought for sure, it'd reset if I miss a day. I'll be happy when I miss a day.

Stefan>> I'm guessing Bobbins is your game name? If so, you're added.

We've got one slot left.

Logged into with lots of rewards from finished events. Lots of common covers, that don't help me at the moment. One Alliance-earned cover: Magneto. Let's me level him up more... yes!

GuidoTKP · Post by **GuidoTKP** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:08 pm

Oooooh, ooooh, Pick Me Pick Me! I've been looking for an alliance.

Granted, I have no idea what one is supposed to do in an alliance, but I've been looking for one!

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:35 pm

Pick up your rewards, as far as I can tell.

Just play the game as you have been. Get extra stuff.

Baroquen · Post by **Baroquen** » Mon Apr 28, 2014 9:36 pm

GuidoTKP wrote:Oooooh, ooooh, Pick Me Pick Me! I've been looking for an alliance.

Granted, I have no idea what one is supposed to do in an alliance, but I've been looking for one!

That's the nice thing about it. With a casual game like this, there's really nothing to "do" in an alliance. Just that when we play, we get bonuses and extra event rewards. So there's really no drawback. Search for "O.Overlords" and we'll add you, no problem.

Stefan Stirzaker · Post by **Stefan Stirzaker** » Tue Apr 29, 2014 4:07 am

Thanks, yeah I think it must of auto chosen a name for me! Thanks

Baroquen wrote:
TazFTW wrote:
Baroquen wrote:Yeah, I wouldn't worry about it. I play at least once a day, to keep my daily gift streak intact.
Just so you know you can take a break and it won't reset the daily reward. So if you just earned day 20, took a week off from playing, the next time you win will give you day 21.
Cool. Thanks Taz. Good to know. I thought for sure, it'd reset if I miss a day. I'll be happy when I miss a day.

Stefan>> I'm guessing Bobbins is your game name? If so, you're added.

We've got one slot left.

Logged into with lots of rewards from finished events. Lots of common covers, that don't help me at the moment. One Alliance-earned cover: Magneto. Let's me level him up more... yes!

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Wed Apr 30, 2014 2:44 pm

A little tip for anyone who might have missed it.

Prologue: Venom campaign
Mission: Black Widow Imposter (at the bottom, near the left)
# of Rewards: 4
Rewards: 3 Classic Storm covers (green, blue, yellow). (she's a top 50% hero, and very strong mid game. Worth leveling)
also, 50 hero points

Prologue: Venom campaign
Mission: Yelena Belova (to the right of Black Widow Imposter)
# of Rewards: 4
Rewards: 2x50 Hero Points
red classic Hawkeye cover (junk, imo)
Yellow **Thor cover (pretty valuable. I've been struggling to get covers for him)

Note: Both missions are a pain in the but if you can't deal with countdown tiles effectively. Especially the second one. The 2 Hitman have over 1800 hp each, and their skills are so cheap they are often dropping 2 or 3 countdowns a turn. And they HURT. I mean, really badly. If you let a couple of the 116 damage strike tiles stick around, you're getting pounded for 300-500 damage per turn without cascades. The Sniper shot is something like 800 damage. By the time you get through the 2 hitmen, Yelena has had enough time to get the AP she needs for her skills. Payback hits for around 500-1000 hp, depending.

The first mission isn't so bad (but can still go wrong with bad luck) but this second one is tough, barring fairly good luck or heroes significantly higher than expected. My lvl 50 IM35 (other account) regularly dies. I use lvl 33 Juggernaut and just sacrifice him to kill both Hitmen quickly. Given how many times I've lost (I started trying early, and even now struggle with it), sacrificing Jughead is a small price to pay to actually win.

So those two missions are 150 hero points (probably a slot, depending on how many you have already) and a good start on Classic Storm. Worth the effort.

EzeKieL · Post by **EzeKieL** » Fri May 02, 2014 4:52 am

Crap, the OO alliance is already full? ;_;

Warn me when you get more spots!

I'm levelling up every available hero because yeah.. I like collecting ;_;.

These are the ones I have from top to bottom:

lvl 68 : Thor
Lvl 51: Iron Man Model 40, Loki
Lvl 50: Storm Classic, Storm Modern, Iron Man Model 35, Spider-Man Bag-Man, Ragnarok,
Lvl 49: Magneto NOW!, Moonstone, Wolverine Astonishing X-men, Black Widow Original, Daken, Ares, Bullseye
Lvl 48: Captain America Modern, Hawkeye Modern
Lvl 41: Black Widow: Grey Suit
Lvl 40: Black Widow Modern, Hawkeye Classic, Juggernaut, Venom, Yelena Belova
Lvl 38: Daredevil, Wolverine X-Force
Lvl 28: Spider-Man Classic, The Hulk
Lvl 25: Captain America Steve Rogers, Wolverine Patch
Lvl 15: Doctor Doom, Human Torch, The Hood, The Punisher, Thor Modern

Every Time I get to spend some, it goes to the cheapest available hero to level-up, at this moment that would be Hawkeye Modern ^^

I still have 2 free roster spaces. Almost all my roster spaces were bought though. I don't have the heart to sell off cards I don't yet own ;_;

I disagree with Bag-man being useless, I always use him when I fight regular soldiers, since his yellow skill keeps the timers up long enough for the big guns to load.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Fri May 02, 2014 10:46 am

EzeKieL wrote: I still have 2 free roster spaces. Almost all my roster spaces were bought though. I don't have the heart to sell off cards I don't yet own ;_;

I disagree with Bag-man being useless, I always use him when I fight regular soldiers, since his yellow skill keeps the timers up long enough for the big guns to load.

Since there is a 5 player limit on alliances, there are several OO based ones out there. They are probably all full at the moment though. =/ Do what Baroquen did and start your own. It will be full in no time, I'm sure.

I just sold off The Hood, who is a top notch hero. Made me sad. The problem is, is that he's a 3 star hero who needs all his covers to be powerful. He is fairly weak when just starting out and never really reaches his potential until he has all his skills maxed out. I don't see 3 star covers on a regular basis, and even then, I've only seen 1 Hood in several weeks of playing. It would be FOREVER before he was useful to me, so I just sold him to save a spot for someone more useful, earlier. I'm sure I'll have another chance at him down the road, but for now, he was a waste. I should probably sell the Hulk too, for pretty much the same reasons (only 1 cover, unlikely to find more in the short term).

Yeah, I should have mentioned that the rankings I posted a link to are mostly concerned with PvP events. Bagman is not as good as most of the other heroes in that context. I'm sure he has his place in PvE. Which reminds me.

I freaking hate those 2 missions I posted above. The tougher one, if you get unlucky, can kill your whole team before you're able to down 1 hitman. You really feel it when bad luck hits you on that mission. Of course good luck means you get both hitman down quickly, and things are much easier against a single lvl 40 Yelena. Those hitman though...holy crap. Let 2 threaten countdowns go off, and you're looking at more than +450 damage per attack, so even the crappiest match the AI makes will crush you in just a couple of turns.

I will be glad when I have all the rewards from those missions, so I never have to see them again. I just don't have enough high level heroes to win it easily, and even when I do win, getting the 20 ISO reward happens more often than not.