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[malchior]

I see that Rudy's cybersecurity expertise is paying off once again.

[LordMortis]

Trump's Organization, for which he did not work on while he was president, though he kept presidential documents at his organization for scrapbooking and didn't know what was in them and they were declassified anyway and they were also returned when asked and taking them was back was illegal, are the best at Cyber.

And they ask "Miss me yet?"

In the immortal words of Tom Petty. "And I'll probably feel a whole lot better when you're gone."

[Defiant]

[Holman]

And if you haven't seen the ad referenced there, it's pretty cringey.

[malchior]

Cringey for sure. The guy makes my skin crawl. He is the worst sort of authoritarian bully.

[Kurth]

He’s also got ZERO charisma and is, in my opinion, a pretty shitty candidate in a national election. I’m really hoping he and Trump go toe-to-toe and destroy each other. That would be nice . . .

[Unagi]

I think it would be fascinating to see DeSantis have to react to a Trump attack and vice-versa.

I'm curious to see how the GOP deals with both of their ambissions.

[Jaymann]

I think it would be fascinating to see DeSantis have to react to a Trump attack and vice-versa.

I'm curious to see how the GOP deals with both of their ambissions.

With nuclear fission?

[Carpet_pissr]

He’s also got ZERO charisma and is, in my opinion, a pretty shitty candidate in a national election. I’m really hoping he and Trump go toe-to-toe and destroy each other. That would be nice . . .

There can be only ONE…’Florida Man’

[LawBeefaroni]

"Don't ever back down from a fight" is quite possibly the worst real-world advice you could give someone. Of course it's one of his foundational campaign positions.

[stimpy]

"Don't ever back down from a fight" is quite possibly the worst real-world advice you could give someone. Of course it's one of his foundational campaign positions.

Yeah....and "Dont shoot until shot upon" is going to lose him a bunch of gun nut voters.

[msteelers]

He’s also got ZERO charisma and is, in my opinion, a pretty shitty candidate in a national election.

That was me talking about Trump in 2016.

It turns out Trump was very charismatic, in an awful/inconceivable/evil way.

[Holman]

Trump/DeSantis is the obvious MAGA ticket, although Trump will need to change his residency again.

DeSantis' strengths as a bully will serve well in a traditional VP attack-dog role.

[Jaymann]

Trump/DeSantis is the obvious MAGA ticket, although Trump will need to change his residency again.

DeSantis' strengths as a bully will serve well in a traditional VP attack-dog role.

I'm not sure Florida Man Alpha's ego would allow him to pick someone disloyal enough to challenge him in the primaries.

[Holman]

Trump/DeSantis is the obvious MAGA ticket, although Trump will need to change his residency again.

DeSantis' strengths as a bully will serve well in a traditional VP attack-dog role.

I'm not sure Florida Man Alpha's ego would allow him to pick someone disloyal enough to challenge him in the primaries.

It's possible that there won't even be a GOP primary, or not in all states.

Besides, in Trump's eyes, accepting the VP position amounts to bending the knee.

[Daehawk]

[Unagi]

That's hilarious regardless of the messenger.

Vacationing in Delaware.


There isn't a human being in the United States of America that has saved up money and dreamed of finally taking off time and vacationing in Delaware. Sorry, Delaware LLC.

[hepcat]

Trump/DeSantis is the obvious MAGA ticket, although Trump will need to change his residency again.

DeSantis' strengths as a bully will serve well in a traditional VP attack-dog role.

I'm not sure Florida Man Alpha's ego would allow him to pick someone disloyal enough to challenge him in the primaries.

Oh god, that would be epic. Both see themselves as alpha dogs. The White House would be covered in their urine after one day.

[Zarathud]

That's hilarious regardless of the messenger.

Vacationing in Delaware.


There isn't a human being in the United States of America that has saved up money and dreamed of finally taking off time and vacationing in Delaware. Sorry, Delaware LLC.

The Delaware shore is actually pretty nice. Rehoboth, Bethany or Dewey Beach.

[Unagi]

That's hilarious regardless of the messenger.

Vacationing in Delaware.


There isn't a human being in the United States of America that has saved up money and dreamed of finally taking off time and vacationing in Delaware. Sorry, Delaware LLC.

The Delaware shore is actually pretty nice. Rehoboth, Bethany or Dewey Beach.

Yeah, I am sure there are amazing places in Delaware. (And I was afraid I would be called out) but the idea of Biden, of all people, being called out for Vacationing in Delaware, was just so goddamn absurd to me. (he lives there - for one damn thing)

[Zarathud]

A President who goes home to keep his grassroots fresh? The horror…

Biden works harder on vacation than Trump worked on his best days.

[hepcat]

[Daehawk]

[Unagi]

[Smoove_B]

Word on the street is that the woman that was behind the amazing NJ Twitter account is now part of the team running the White House Twitter account.

[malchior]

I need a shower after diving into that thread. Maybe this is what they need to do but I'm not going to cheer them taking a dip into the cesspool. The discussion attached to this post is mind-numbing. Folks trying to point out this was misleading were shouted down by the mob about Dark Brandon. That said, there did seem to be much rejoicing that finally "their team" was fighting back. Maybe leaning into societal decadence is the only way forward. It's a cynical bet but turning out the vote is critical now.

*Edit: Not to say there isn't anything to criticize about Congressperson's potentially abusing PPP loans but the WH is doling out populist slop here.

Word on the street is that the woman that was behind the amazing NJ Twitter account is now part of the team running the White House Twitter account.

I saw that. I don't mind some sharp elbows. They are long overdue but I hope it won't lead to a complete roll in the mud.

[Unagi]

I’m not sure where you find the slide to social decadence. And populist slop isn’t automatically as horrible as you are hinting at.

Further more, if you want democrats to welcome and appeal to people like DeSantis Supprters, one is going to very much need to find some flavor of populist slop to throw down.

As long as it’s at least based in truth, I’m fine with it.

[malchior]

I’m not sure where you find the slide to social decadence.

Political tribes battling it out in online screaming matches throwing misinformation back and forth is pretty clear indication of decline.

And populist slop isn’t automatically as horrible as you are hinting at.

It's not automatically horrible. This form is potentially horrible though. It also might be necessary. We'll see.

[malchior]

FWIW this is exactly the type of sharp elbows I want to see thrown. Clear and accurate.

[Jaymann]

Here we go, Dark Brandon, here we go.

[Kraken]

Aggression wins elections now, so yay Dark Brandon. Or may I call you Darth Brandon.

[Unagi]

Or just Darth

[Daehawk]

Saw some twitter memes about how a known traitor to America put 3 Supreme Court justices on the bench.

[gbasden]

Political tribes battling it out in online screaming matches throwing misinformation back and forth is pretty clear indication of decline.

I'm probably just not understanding, but what is the misinformation in that thread? Did those congresspeople not have PPP loans forgiven? I know that R's don't give a shit about hypocrisy, but it still seems valuable to point out what they are doing.

[Kraken]

Political tribes battling it out in online screaming matches throwing misinformation back and forth is pretty clear indication of decline.

I'm probably just not understanding, but what is the misinformation in that thread? Did those congresspeople not have PPP loans forgiven? I know that R's don't give a shit about hypocrisy, but it still seems valuable to point out what they are doing.

Unlike student loans, PPP "loans" were intended upfront to be forgiven for borrowers who met their conditions. It's a false equivalence.

[LordMortis]

Only if your criteria is that the loan was never meant to be repaid. If your criteria is borrowing money and not paying it back, then not so much.

Also, "What's her name." as a response to being told to go to hell. Biden has a clever person guiding him right now. I don't know how well it will play as OUTRAGED is the preferred state of the MAGAt.

https://www.newsweek.com/marjorie-taylo ... me-1737517

"I found it fascinating that some of the folks who were talking about 'this is big spending' are the same people that got $158,000 in PPP money," Biden told reporters outside the White House in the clip shared by Greene. "Including the... what's her name? That woman who believes in... well, anyway, a whole lot of Republicans got a lot of money. The very people criticizing."

"Well if his dementia wasn't so bad he could remember," Greene tweeted in response. "At least President Trump knows everyone's name. Joe is a career politician that knows nothing about making payroll during a tyrannical government shutdown. He only knows how to buy votes."

[Jaymann]

Missed opportunity:

You know... what's her name? That woman who believes in gazpacho police.

[malchior]

Only if your criteria is that the loan was never meant to be repaid. If your criteria is borrowing money and not paying it back, then not so much.

This is the problem though. That first part is the true framing - the second is bullshit. Generally when someone takes out a student loan it is premised that they are investing in themselves and have to pay it back. You can't repo the knowledge after all. There are some forgiveness programs so that's not an iron law or anything.

However, the PPP loan were premised that a once-in-a-century pandemic was occurring and forgiveness was the intended outcome for nearly all the "loans" and the requirements clearly laid out from the jump. Was it wise policy? Eh. It's not clear by any measure and that's a fair criticism. However, the people trying to flat out equivocate the PPP loan/student loan forgiveness policies are slinging straight up bullshit.

[LordMortis]

the second is bullshit.

Depends on who you are talking to. When you are talking to someone who begins with ".... taking out loans and not paying them back" then the second is absolutely in line. The PPP response was to the complaint of students taking out loans and not paying them back.




Rest assured, I am no fan of student loan forgiveness in the way it has been done. But the statement was about how unfair it is to take out loans and not pay them back. What's her name took a loan and didn't pay it back. How fair is that to the masses of businesses who tried on day one who didn't even get to apply? She laid the groundwork set the framing and response was appropriate, IMO.

[Isgrimnur]

The student loan payout is certainly going to have a lot less fraud than PPP.