Scoop's Inhumans - Game has begun

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 12:16 pm

I feel like he is ducking us. Or maybe I'm just anxious to play on a Friday where I really don't want to work. Has to be on of those two...

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:08 pm

Ooops my bad, I'm not sure how pointing out that Scoop might have made a mistake makes me the bad guy here?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 1:25 pm

No one contests that RMC used the canister?

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:00 pm

Ok, so I'm finally checking in. Had meetings solid all day today.

So Scoop confirmed the cannister was used, RMC claims to have used the cannister, and there is no counter claim. Everyone else has checked in, so I think we have checked all the boxes to go forward today.

That leaves:

Stessier
Vorret

RMC - Grave Digger?
Rev - Bot?
bb2112 - Human?

I think Vorret is our UO.

Vorret

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:09 pm

I'm just an innocent burrowing rodent !!!

LOOK AT ME!

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:13 pm

I'm invoking PETA to protect me agaist evil!

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:32 pm

Vorret

I guessed wrong on Molaire, I have to be right on Vorret.

Now, who did he convert? Hmmm...

Moliere · Post by **Moliere** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:35 pm

RMC wrote:I guessed wrong on Molaire

The most misspelled name on OO.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:40 pm

Moliere wrote:
RMC wrote:I guessed wrong on Molaire
The most misspelled name on OO.

I have the same problem.... us innocent rodent and writer get all the hate.

Vorret · Post by **Vorret** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:41 pm

RMC wrote: Vorret

I guessed wrong on Molaire, I have to be right on Vorret.

Now, who did he convert? Hmmm...

Once stessier is done probing your body you'll realise how wrong you were.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 2:43 pm

Vorret wrote:
RMC wrote: Vorret

I guessed wrong on Molaire, I have to be right on Vorret.

Now, who did he convert? Hmmm...
Once stessier is done probing your body you'll realise how wrong you were.

Nope, I am right.. I hope.. And sorry about the misspelling thing..

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:21 pm

Vorret wrote:I'm just an innocent burrowing rodent !!!

LOOK AT ME!

Scoop20906 wrote:Dear god, i am not exploding!!

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:23 pm

I actually think it is RMC. I don't like how Vorret didn't counterclaim his usage. Something smells wrong about this.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:26 pm

stessier wrote:I actually think it is RMC. I don't like how Vorret didn't counterclaim his usage. Something smells wrong about this.

WD Vorret

Ok, let's here this before things spin out of control. I still think it is Vorret.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:30 pm

Under what conditions does a UO not counterclaim a human RMC? What does it buy him to not make a claim? Everyone was already aligned against either him or RMC at dawn. There are more unprovable roles he could have claimed. Why didn't he counter claim to at least make it a discussion?

Perhaps so he looks most guilty while the true UO goes unmolested??

I could be totally off base, it just seems way to convenient that our world view is aligning perfectly to what we are seeing at this point.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:30 pm

stessier wrote:I actually think it is RMC. I don't like how Vorret didn't counterclaim his usage. Something smells wrong about this.

I didn't have the cannister.
Rev couldn't have had the cannister, he had it the night before.
RMC claims to have had the cannister.
Vorret does not counter.
Stess does not counter.

If the UO has the cannister he has to use it on everyone. By default, RMC could not be the UO. That leaves Stess and Vorret. If it was Stess, he would have ended the game when he responded. I don't see any other choice other than Vorret being the UO.

What are you seeing that I'm not?

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:30 pm

stessier wrote:I actually think it is RMC. I don't like how Vorret didn't counterclaim his usage. Something smells wrong about this.

Not I. Why the sudden switch? Was someone converted last night?

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:33 pm

RMC wrote:
stessier wrote:I actually think it is RMC. I don't like how Vorret didn't counterclaim his usage. Something smells wrong about this.
Not I. Why the sudden switch? Was someone converted last night?

I am starting to wonder the same thing. Is this a hail mary to save Vorret, or am I truly missing something?

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:36 pm

Hate to use the mod mistake to my advantage, but if I did not have the canister and was the wolf, would I claim to have used the canister prior to Scoop confirming it was used.

And there wasn't any hesitation on my part that it would be confirmed by Scoop.

Vorret = Main Bad Guy
Stess = Converted Bad Guy

That is my call, even though I would have chosen Rev if I was going to convert, the Bot thing would make it harder for him to slip up.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:37 pm

RMC claims to have used the canister. There is nothing to say that he didn't convert Vorret after Vorret used it. They can talk to each other. There was a gap from morning to the time RMC mentioned he used it. This could be a setup.

RevHempus71 · Post by **RevHempus71** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:37 pm

bb2112 wrote:
stessier wrote:I actually think it is RMC. I don't like how Vorret didn't counterclaim his usage. Something smells wrong about this.
I didn't have the cannister.
Rev couldn't have had the cannister, he had it the night before.
RMC claims to have had the cannister.
Vorret does not counter.
Stess does not counter.

If the UO has the cannister he has to use it on everyone. By default, RMC could not be the UO. That leaves Stess and Vorret. If it was Stess, he would have ended the game when he responded. I don't see any other choice other than Vorret being the UO.

What are you seeing that I'm not?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:39 pm

Scoop - is the canister used before or after the conversion? If the conversion comes first, what is the result of the convert using the canister? Is it the "spray everyone" option or the "get super power" option?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:40 pm

Again, I could just be super paranoid. No reason not to wait for Scoop's answers though.

RMC · Post by **RMC** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:41 pm

stessier wrote:RMC claims to have used the canister. There is nothing to say that he didn't convert Vorret after Vorret used it. They can talk to each other. There was a gap from morning to the time RMC mentioned he used it. This could be a setup.

Oh I like that one... But nope, good play on your part though.

I am keeping my vote on Vorret. Stess, I think you have overplayed your hand. If you had stayed quiet you might have been able to get them to kill me the next night, but I hope everyone can see what you are doing.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:41 pm

bb2112 wrote:If the UO has the cannister he has to use it on everyone. By default, RMC could not be the UO. That leaves Stess and Vorret. If it was Stess, he would have ended the game when he responded. I don't see any other choice other than Vorret being the UO.

Incidentally, I totally agree with this in principle but screams at me why didn't Vorret claim to have used the canister???

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:42 pm

Updating from my phone so I can't quote my rulez but the use of the canister is always the last night event with one exception. If the person is killed during the night the canister is randomly passed to another player at dawn.

I realize that's not explicit in the rulez so I will correct that in the next iteration of Scoop's Inhuman.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:53 pm

Okay, but what happens if a player is converted and has the canister? Do they use the canister? Does it just pass to the next player without it being used?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:54 pm

For future reference, if the canister passes without being used, that means RMC could not have been the convert last night.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:56 pm

Same result. That player can no longer use the canister and it is passed to another player at dawn.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 3:58 pm

And to further clarify the mod would not announce that the canister was used.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:00 pm

stessier wrote:Okay, but what happens if a player is converted and has the canister? Do they use the canister? Does it just pass to the next player without it being used?

I thought of this too, but that doesn't change who the UO would be, just who the convert might be. Well, depending on Scoop's answer.

Scoop, if RMC was converted and had the cannister and actually kept the cannister after the conversion, would he be forced to spray everyone? Would he have to give the cannister to the UO? And if did have to give it to the UO, would it be on the night of the conversion or the next night?

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:00 pm

Okay, so we know the canister was used. We know it can only be used by a human (or we'd all have powers). We know only one players claims to have used it. Ergo, he used it.

RMC is human.

Vorret

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:01 pm

wd vorret

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:01 pm

A player who is converted can not hold on to the canister.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:03 pm

Sorry for the quick withdraw, wanted to read BB2112's post that was cross posted.

So we're good right? RMC is NOT the convert. BB2112 was rezzed. Rev has a power on the one day that the gas was used and no one counter claimed. It has to be Vorret.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:04 pm

Well, from my perspective anyway. Could be me too.

Scoop20906 · Post by **Scoop20906** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:04 pm

One more clarification. In the rules it says the unspoken one cannot be randomly passed the canister. Also any inhuman player cannot be passed the canister. And any Player who has use the canister cannot be passed the canister.

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:05 pm

Scoop20906 wrote:A player who is converted can not hold on to the canister.

Ok, it seems pretty air tight. It has to be Vorret for the UO.

Vorret

bb2112 · Post by **bb2112** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:09 pm

stessier wrote:Well, from my perspective anyway. Could be me too.

No, if you were the UO, you would have ended the game already. I am pretty convinced you are not the UO, otherwise you would be a huge A-hole for dragging this out.

stessier · Post by **stessier** » Fri Apr 17, 2015 4:11 pm

Ohhh, you have no idea.

Vorret