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Jaw-Dropping Direct Image Shows a Baby Exoplanet Over 400 Light-Years Away
This, in itself, is not so unusual. We've detected thousands of exoplanets – planets outside the Solar System. Presumably they all had to be newborn at some point too. What makes this exoplanet special is that astronomers obtained a direct image of it – an almost vanishingly rare feat.
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Jaw-dropping? :roll:
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Well it is the first ever true image of a extrasolar planet. Not just an artist rendering at math and wobbles.
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My jaw did descend.
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Zaxxon wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:16 pm My jaw did descend.
But did it drop? :D
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jztemple2 wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 5:25 pm
Zaxxon wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 4:16 pm My jaw did descend.
But did it drop? :D
Perhaps, if slowly.
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There are over 300 ways that the new James Webb Space Telescope could fail, NASA says
About 28 minutes after liftoff, Webb will detach from its launch vehicle and begin "the most complex sequence of deployments ever attempted in a single space mission," according to NASA. This deployment, which will see Webb unfold and unfurl its sun shield once in space, includes quite literally hundreds of "single points of failure," Mike Menzel, Webb lead mission systems engineer for NASA's Goddard Space Flight Center in Maryland, said Tuesday (Nov. 2) during a news briefing.

344 points of failure

"There are 344 single-point-of-failure items on average," Menzel said about the Webb mission, adding that "approximately 80% of those are associated with the deployment … It's hard to avoid when you have a release mechanism. It's hard to put full redundancy into that."

Webb has 144 release mechanisms "which all must work perfectly," Krystal Puga, Webb spacecraft systems engineer for Northrop Grumman, which built the spacecraft, said during the briefing.

"Like an origami object, proper folding and unfolding is necessary in order to achieve a specific shape," Alphonso Steward, Webb deployment systems lead for NASA Goddard, said during the briefing.

Menzel explained that the team decreased the number of release mechanisms as much as possible. "We found the sweet spot between getting the control that we want, with these large flexible membranes," without adding too many single points of failure, he said.

However, while the mission, and especially the deployment stage, have such a large number of single points of failure, Menzel emphasized the extensive work that the mission team has done to ensure success. "When we identify a single point failure, we give it very special treatment. We have what we call a critical item control plan, and we always throw in extra inspection points. And we've done extra offline testing on these devices," Menzel said.

He added that for every one of these items identified, NASA and Northrop Grumman have done extra inspections and tests to understand the different ways that it could fail, to be as prepared as possible. "We've given our single-point-failure items a lot of attention," he said.
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Daehawk wrote: Wed Nov 03, 2021 1:30 pm Jaw-Dropping Direct Image Shows a Baby Exoplanet Over 400 Light-Years Away
This, in itself, is not so unusual. We've detected thousands of exoplanets – planets outside the Solar System. Presumably they all had to be newborn at some point too. What makes this exoplanet special is that astronomers obtained a direct image of it – an almost vanishingly rare feat.
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Blue Origin loses HLS lawsuit.

Finally work can resume...
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Nice picture. Too bad it got hit by the Death Star superlaser.
that IS the Deathstar and its targeting us!
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Daehawk wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 4:10 pm Someone needs to get out and fix the Earth's orbit and rotation and tilt. Who screwed this up??
I have watched a few videos about the Rare Earth Hypothesis which is quite intriguing. Here are some of the main points:

The sun is not too close to the deadly radiation at the galactic center.
The Earth's near perfect placing in the Goldilocks zone.
Earth's strong magnetic field further deflects radiation.
The axis tilt causing seasons.
The proportionally oversized moon and its effect on tides and meteors.
The large outer planets, especially Jupiter, capturing potential planet busters.
The collision that caused the dinosaur extinction event.
Tectonic plates relieving volcanic pressure. (Not so on Venus).
Earth's gravity is strong enough to hold an atmosphere, but not so intense as to be crushing.
No nearby supernova explosions.

While any one of these factors may not be so rare in the universe, for all of them to combine on one planet has got to be extremely rare, even given the billions upon billions of star systems, and may possibly be an answer to Fermi's Paradox.
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Kinda sad.
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Jaymann wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:39 pm The large outer planets, especially Jupiter, capturing potential planet busters.
About that...
Jaymann wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 5:39 pm Teutonic plates
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Brian Greene takes it as a given that Jupiter protects us:

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Jaymann wrote: Fri Nov 05, 2021 6:35 pm takes it as a given
That's kinda not how science works.
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I'm shocked that Greene would just make shit up without examining any supporting evidence. And people consider him to be one of the most eminent physicists of our time. Pfft.
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The Meal wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 pm My employer got a bit of a part of a blurb on CBS's morning show recently.
Alright, a photo of my test lab finally makes its way into the media (you have to scroll most of the way down the page to see it).
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The Meal wrote: Mon Nov 08, 2021 7:12 pm
The Meal wrote: Mon Sep 13, 2021 7:57 pm My employer got a bit of a part of a blurb on CBS's morning show recently.
Alright, a photo of my test lab finally makes its way into the media (you have to scroll most of the way down the page to see it).
Nice! That MethaneSAT sounds pretty cool. Good luck!
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To the surprise of almost no one, NASA's Artemis astronauts won't land on the moon by 2024 deadline
NASA has let go of its goal to return humans to the moon's surface by 2024.

"2024 was not a goal that was really technically feasible," NASA Administrator Bill Nelson said during a news conference today (Nov. 9). "We are [now] estimating no earlier than 2025."

In a timeline set by the Trump administration, NASA has been working toward landing humans on the moon by 2024 as part of its Artemis program. That already aggressive target was recently made more challenging, as the agency experienced delays caused by the coronavirus pandemic and a lawsuit filed by Blue Origin, which paused development on the landing system to be used for the initial crewed touchdown. Now, Nelson has formally announced that the agency has a new lunar timeline.
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Losing seven months certainly didn't help.
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More specifically...

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I presume the Artemis 1 shakedown cruise is still on for early next year?
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Kraken wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:07 pm I presume the Artemis 1 shakedown cruise is still on for early next year?
For some definition of early, yes.

More at Ars, but I didn't see an update on Artemis 1 specifically, just 2 and 3.
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Kraken wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:07 pm I presume the Artemis 1 shakedown cruise is still on for early next year?
Yes, I believe the No Early Than date is February 22, 2022.
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Yes, Feb appears to still be the official NET date, according to The Verge's coverage.
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Back before we had all these fancy computers and digital displays, the master schedule for Launch Complex 39 Shuttle operations was kept in LCC 3R22, which was a big conference room. The schedule was there for all to see, as it was on a steel plated wall about twelve feet tall and sixty or so feet long. There were actually several schedules on all the walls, but that main flow schedule was on the east wall by itself. It was divided vertically by date, and horizontally there were the different line items, printed on one inch white tapes stuck to flexible magnetic strips and positioned on the wall to show the schedule. Each weekday at ten am (IIRC) there was a meeting of all the heads of the different departments and disciplines (including yours truly) who would answer questions and concerns put by the launch director and the flow managers as they reviewed the current progress.

If needed, the magnetic strips were moved left or (heaven forbid!) right and the schedule adjusted. When there was concurrence on the schedule (or the bosses said we had concurrence on the schedule :wink:) the meeting would be over and an official KSC photographer would come in with his ladder and take photos of the schedule wall. These were developed, trimmed and printed, then reproduced and distributed to recipients (I think a couple of hundred folks or departments). And that's how we all kept to the same schedule.

Update: I forgot to mention, also heaven help you if you were sitting next to the wall and leaned back and moved a schedule strip!
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I love all of your 'in my day' anecdotes, jz.
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Zaxxon wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:49 pm I love all of your 'in my day' anecdotes, jz.
There are a lot of books by Shuttle astronauts and the big bosses, but the best stories are from the folks in the trenches :wink:
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The stone tablets were abandoned after Apollo. :D
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Zaxxon wrote: Tue Nov 09, 2021 10:49 pm I love all of your 'in my day' anecdotes, jz.
You and me both! That's an awesome glimpse into how things were done.
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Interesting times.





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Another good Scott Manley video;

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Hrdina wrote: Wed Oct 13, 2021 1:21 am One of them at least should have insisted on wearing a blue uniform:
Glen de Vries, co-founder of the clinical trial software company Medidata Solutions. He’s also the vice chair of life sciences and healthcare at Dassault Systèmes, a French software company that acquired Medidata in 2019.
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A man who traveled to space with William Shatner last month was killed along with another person when the small plane they were in crashed in a wooded area of northern New Jersey, according to state police.

The one-time space tourist Glen M. de Vries, 49, of New York City, and Thomas P. Fischer, 54, of Hopatcong, were aboard the single-engine Cessna 172 that went down Thursday.

De Vries was an instrument-rated private pilot, and Fischer owned a flight school. Authorities have not said who was piloting the small plane.

The plane had left Essex County Airport in Caldwell, on the edge of the New York City area, and was headed to Sussex Airport, in rural northwestern New Jersey, when the Federal Aviation Administration alerted public safety agencies to look for the missing plane around 3 p.m.
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Almost Total Lunar Eclipse
In this eclipse, up to 99.1% of the Moon’s disk will be within Earth’s umbra.

The best viewing will be right around the peak of the eclipse, on November 19th at 9:03 UTC/4:03 AM EDT/1:03 AM PDT. This part of the eclipse is visible in all of North America, as well as large parts of South America, Polynesia, eastern Australia, and northeastern Asia.

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Coincident fact, I learned to fly on a Cessna 172.
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Ar least he got to orbit the Earth before he died.
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Daehawk wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:05 pm Ar least he got to orbit the Earth before he died.
Sub-orbital flight.
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jztemple2 wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 4:29 pm
Daehawk wrote: Sat Nov 13, 2021 3:05 pm Ar least he got to orbit the Earth before he died.
Sub-orbital flight.
At least he got to sub orbit the Earth before he died.
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