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Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:20 am
by bb2112
New game with the same rules.

Rules (assuming more than 5 players)

The Teams
  • Two teams, Liberal and Fascist, at an approximate ratio of 2/1.
  • One of the Fascists is special: Hitler. Everyone else is normal.
The Equipment
  • A shuffled deck of policy cards, unseen until an elected President draws or three failed elections trigger an automatic draw. The policies simply say "FASCIST POLICY" or "LIBERAL POLICY" and occur at a ratio of approximately 2/1.
  • A rack of slots where legislated (or automatic) Liberal policies are placed. No powers.
  • A rack of slots where legislated (or automatic) Fascist policies are placed. Some of the slots make one-time presidential powers available. Powers available depend on the number of players.
Illustration: a Fascist policy rack showing six slots, two with policies on them and four that trigger presidential powers. (Click to embiggen.)
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The Game Loop:
  1. PRESIDENT phase: Nominate a President: random on the first term; afterward clockwise by seating (unless interrupted by a Special Election).
  2. CHANCELLOR phase: President nominates a Chancellor. Eligible to be nominated Chancellor== was neither the last active President nor the last active Chancellor.
  3. ELECTION phase: All players (including nominees) discuss the ticket. At any time during this discussion, any player may PM the moderator exactly once to affirm or oppose the pair of candidates. To affirm, pm "YES"; to oppose, pm "NO". Each player must vote and may vote exactly once; the vote is irrevocable. As soon the moderator has received a vote from every player, the moderator will post a list, in seating order, of the players and their votes. (Note: a player may prolong the discussion by withholding a vote, but the moderator may intervene with the dilly-dallier and force a choice if this privilege is abused.)
    • Candidates Elected!: Election of the proposed pair of candidates requires a true majority of "YES" votes.
    • Hitler Elected Chancellor!!!: If three Fascist policies have already been enacted and Hitler is elected Chancellor, the Fascists immediately win. GAME OVER. (Election of Hitler as President, or as Chancellor in the absence of three prior Fascist Policies, does nothing.
    • Ticket Rejected!: If the players reject three proposed pairs of candidates in a row (one of these failures may be the result of a veto), then the next policy in the shuffled deck is automatically enacted (but cannot trigger a one-time Presidential power), and everyone becomes eligible for nomination at Chancellor. Successful election or automatic policy enactment resets the failure count to 0. Whenever the proposed candidates are rejected, skip the LEGISLATION and ACTION phases and proceed to END OF TURN.
    • If the proposed candidates are elected, the current Game Loop proceeds to the next phase.
  4. LEGISLATION phase: The President draws 3 policies (from the moderator by PM) and informs the moderator which 2 to forward to the Chancellor. The Chancellor must select one of those 2 and enact it on the appropriate policy rack. At no time should the actual PMs from or to the moderator be disclosed in the game thread; however, players may mislead others about the contents of those communications.
  5. ACTION phase: If a non-automatic Fascist policy grants the President a special power, he may openly discuss how to proceed but must enact that policy.
  6. END OF TURN: The turn is over and the Game Loop starts again.
Notes
  • Players may not PM one another. Players may PM the moderator at any time.
  • 5-10 players: Fascists know one another and know Hitler; 5-6 players: Hitler knows the other Fascists; 7-10 players: Hitler does not know the other Fascists.
  • Liberals win by enacting five Liberal policies or by killing Hitler.
  • Fascists win by enacting six Fascist policies or by electing Hitler Chancellor after three Fascist policies have been enacted.
Special Powers (triggered by certain slots on the Fascist policy rack)
  • Investigate Loyalty: President asks the moderator for the alignment of another player. (Hitler shows only as "Fascist").
  • Call Special Election: President names the next Presidential candidate. After that outcome is resolved, Presidential candidacy resumes where it would've gone prior to the special election.
  • Policy Peek: President looks at the next three undisclosed Policies (without changing their order).
  • Execution: President orders the death of another player's character; alignment is revealed only if the target is Hitler.
Veto Power
  • If five Fascist Policies are enacted, then the Chancellor gains a veto over the pair of policies provided secretly by the President: rather than have to enact one of them, the Chancellor may-- only with the President's concurrence-- reject them both and do nothing. If this happens, the game proceeds as normal but the count of failed elections increases by 1.
Who is interested?

Players

1. Moliere
2. El Guapo
3. Chaosraven
4. Stessier
5. Grundbegriff
6. Vorret
7. Remus West
8. Holman
9. RMC
10. Scoop20906

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:35 am
by Moliere
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Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:37 am
by El Guapo
I'm in, though if other observers of the past game (like Zarathud) wanted to join in, I'm fine with observing the next round as well.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:40 am
by bb2112
I think we can play with up to 10 people. So we do have one additional spot available.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:48 am
by stessier
Yeah, I'll play if there's room but don't mind sitting for a new guy.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:52 am
by Grundbegriff
Ich bin dabei.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:55 am
by Vorret
IN!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:09 pm
by Grundbegriff
Holman! 'thud! We need you!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:11 pm
by El Guapo
Image

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:11 pm
by Remus West
In, although as others noted, if new folks wish to play I'm happy to make room and await round 3.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:26 pm
by Holman
 IN 
 
(if space remains)

You can trust me. I scanned Chaosraven.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 12:29 pm
by stessier
Ewwww. At least wash up before coming in here.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:30 pm
by RMC
I'll be your huckleberry, if there is room that is...

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:35 pm
by bb2112
You are, and there is.

1 spot left. Either Scoop or Zarathud and we can get the party started. Woot!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 6:59 pm
by stessier
I think Unagi would have fun with this. I know he still posts here...if you'received following along, come on in!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:12 pm
by Scoop20906
In!!!!!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:12 pm
by El Guapo
Ich bin nicht Hitler!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:13 pm
by Scoop20906
I hope I'm liberal this time

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:19 pm
by El Guapo
Scoop20906 wrote:Ich bin Hitler!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:22 pm
by Scoop20906
Lol

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 7:54 pm
by bb2112
Looks like we have all our tools. Roles will go out tonight.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:10 pm
by Scoop20906
Cool!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:30 pm
by bb2112
All roles are out.

Remember no PM's. Ever. And I am the boss. :P

1. Moliere
2. El Guapo
3. Chaosraven
4. Stessier
5. Grundbegriff
6. Vorret <============= President
7. Remus West
8. Holman
9. RMC
10. Scoop20906

10 players:
  • 6 Liberals
  • 3 normal Fascists
  • 1 Hitler Fascist
Vorret, who will you nominate as your Chancellor?

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:31 pm
by RMC
Oh nominate Scoop. He has shifty eyes and he touched my knee. Really! he did!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:32 pm
by El Guapo
bb2112 wrote:All roles are out.

Remember no PM's. Ever. And I am the boss. :P

1. Moliere
2. El Guapo
3. Chaosraven
4. Stessier
5. Grundbegriff
6. Vorret <============= President
7. Remus West
8. Holman
9. RMC
10. Scoop20906

10 players:
  • 6 Liberals
  • 3 normal Fascists
  • 1 Hitler Fascist
Vorret, who will you nominate as your Chancellor?

:lol: Him again!

C'mon, I worked out great last time!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:32 pm
by RMC

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:33 pm
by El Guapo
Ich bin nicht Hitler!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:35 pm
by Holman
[Bleaching the last game out of my system now.]

Let's go!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:36 pm
by El Guapo
Holman wrote:[Bleaching the last game out of my system now.]

Let's go!
I'm pretty sure that Holman and Chaosraven are fascists.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:38 pm
by Moliere
I can't make any decisions until I see stessier's updated spreadsheet.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:42 pm
by Scoop20906
Id be happy to be chancy and I can confidently announce I am a Liberal this time. I'm looking forward to trying things out from this side of the conflict.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:53 pm
by Zarathud
Thanks, but it's going to be a rough month with tax season. After April 15!!

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler Sign Up Page

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 8:58 pm
by bb2112
Zarathud wrote:Thanks, but it's going to be a rough month with tax season. After April 15!!
No problem. After April 15th, my friend.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:30 pm
by Moliere
I will be very liberal with my policies. :wink:

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:33 pm
by El Guapo
Are there going to be time limits on voting like we started moving towards last game?

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 9:44 pm
by Scoop20906
Are we going to try to limit the pool of candidates like Stessier proposed last time?

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:01 pm
by Moliere
Are we going to limit the posts of known fascists? ↑↑↑↑

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:04 pm
by RMC
I'm elongated man!

:csmile:

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 10:32 pm
by bb2112
El Guapo wrote:Are there going to be time limits on voting like we started moving towards last game?
I am not going to put any formal limits at this time. But if we get bogged down by one or two people, things may change. Overall I was pretty happy with the pace of Grund's game and I'm probably one of the more impatient players.

Re: Secret Hitler II - The Revenge of Hitler - Game On

Posted: Mon Feb 22, 2016 11:13 pm
by Grundbegriff
RMC wrote:I'm elongated man!

:csmile:
Liar!

 RMC