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Can Kelly fire Rosenstein or does it have to be Trump? If the latter, that would explain why he wasn't fired today (i.e. they hoped he would resign but when he didn't Kelly couldn't fire him). So I think it's still about 50/50 that Trump will fire Rosenstein on Thursday. Plus, that'll be another distraction to take the news focus away from Ford's testimony that day.
Don't forget, Lumpy told Trump explicity last week not to fire Rod - it was a trap. And since we also know they talk just about every night via telephone, I'm feeling confident our President is going to follow the orders of a TV personality.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:31 pmSo I think it's still about 50/50 that Trump will fire Rosenstein on Thursday. Plus, that'll be another distraction to take the news focus away from Ford's testimony that day.
Trump never fires anyone himself. He's a wimp like that.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 3:31 pmCan Kelly fire Rosenstein or does it have to be Trump? If the latter, that would explain why he wasn't fired today (i.e. they hoped he would resign but when he didn't Kelly couldn't fire him). So I think it's still about 50/50 that Trump will fire Rosenstein on Thursday. Plus, that'll be another distraction to take the news focus away from Ford's testimony that day.
Maybe but why would physically being in DC matter hypothetically speaking? He doesn't even need to talk to him. There is more to this. I would lean towards making a show of things to distract from Kavanaugh but that seems incomplete too.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:49 pm Most of the firings so far have been people working in the WH. As Chief of Staff, Kelly is technically in charge of those people and so has firing power. I would be surprised if Kelly could fire someone in the DoJ without at least, as you say, something signed by Trump. So it seems like the WH leaked the idea of Rosenstein resigning, hoping that would pressure him to do so. But Rosenstein refused, Kelly didn’t have the authority to actually fire him himself, and Trump wasn’t in DC to do it.
Per Sarah Sanders (I know, I know), Trump and Rosenstein spoke on the phone yesterday morning. He could have fired him then.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Mon Sep 24, 2018 9:49 pm Most of the firings so far have been people working in the WH. As Chief of Staff, Kelly is technically in charge of those people and so has firing power. I would be surprised if Kelly could fire someone in the DoJ without at least, as you say, something signed by Trump. So it seems like the WH leaked the idea of Rosenstein resigning, hoping that would pressure him to do so. But Rosenstein refused, Kelly didn’t have the authority to actually fire him himself, and Trump wasn’t in DC to do it.
That's why he did The Apprentice. A show presenting a scared-to-fire, horrible failure of a businessman as an estute, ruthless "You're fired!" ass kicker. His other reality show pitches were "Giant Hands" and "Sexually Attractive."
Damn, you weren't kidding.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:39 am Here's one of the ads for the stuff. Tell me that isn't eerie. It's basically the answer to the collusion question. In a vodka ad.
I'm interested in the vodka, but I'm unsure whether it is premium enough. I wish the ad would have addressed that.Skinypupy wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 11:24 amDamn, you weren't kidding.LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 9:39 am Here's one of the ads for the stuff. Tell me that isn't eerie. It's basically the answer to the collusion question. In a vodka ad.
That's Trump's entire administration distilled to its essence in 30 seconds: Russians, money, women, Trump ego, and failure.
"Welch's Grape Jelly with Alcohol": How Trump's Horrific Wine Became the Ultimate Metaphor for His PresidencyChaz wrote: ↑Tue Sep 25, 2018 10:13 pm Trump selling vodka and wine and touting it as super great is really funny considering he famously doesn't drink.
Not that there's anything wrong with not drinking, but if I'm looking for someone who can tell me what the best wine or vodka is, I'm not going to run out and ask the dude who doesn't touch the stuff for his opinion.
This is a fun read if you missed it the first time around.After the deadly Charlottesville riots, Donald Trump responded by . . . plugging his family winery in Virginia. Aided by an expert oenophile, the author takes the bait—and tastes the pain.
I'm willing to bet that all of his children have high-level directives that employees need to make sure people know who's in charge. Trump casts a huge shadow and likes to claim anything with his name on it is in his empire. I wouldn't want to live in a shadow like that, either.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Sep 26, 2018 9:04 amI do remember chatting with one of the server/taster girls and they kept emphasizing the whole operation was ERIC’s, not his Dad’s.
Meeting was postponed due to Kavanaugh.LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:12 am Wasn't Rosenstein supposed to get fired yesterday? I thought the Senate panel was supposed to be cover that. If it was, then it was damned good cover.
He wasn't going to fire him yesterday regardless. Monday (following the NYT report on Friday) was the day that it was going to happen, if it was going to happen - that's when the headlines would have been "Trump fires Rosenstein because of wiretapping comments". Now the headlines would just be "Trump fires Rosenstein, threatening Mueller investigation" or the like. I think the most logical conclusion of Monday's events is that Trump's people decided that they couldn't fire Rosenstein (that it would be too risky).Blackhawk wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:22 amMeeting was postponed due to Kavanaugh.LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Sep 28, 2018 11:12 am Wasn't Rosenstein supposed to get fired yesterday? I thought the Senate panel was supposed to be cover that. If it was, then it was damned good cover.
Not until they are sued and forced to admit that they published/pushed baseless conspiracy theories:
The conservative Washington Times has issued a retraction and apology in today's edition to Aaron Rich, the brother of murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich. Aaron Rich sued the paper after it published an editorial this past March that suggested he had downloaded emails from DNC servers and turned them over to Wikileaks in exchange for money. The retraction and apology are part of a settlement,
And not surprisingly,Pyperkub wrote: ↑Mon Oct 01, 2018 12:48 pmNot until they are sued and forced to admit that they published/pushed baseless conspiracy theories:
The conservative Washington Times has issued a retraction and apology in today's edition to Aaron Rich, the brother of murdered Democratic National Committee staffer Seth Rich. Aaron Rich sued the paper after it published an editorial this past March that suggested he had downloaded emails from DNC servers and turned them over to Wikileaks in exchange for money. The retraction and apology are part of a settlement,
Yikes. WaPo's @GregPMiller describes a tense moment from 2016 involving a CIA director trying to sound the alarm on Russia and a senior U.S. senator wanting none of it...
It's more that the GOP is now dominated by this Randian mindset that holds that the most important thing in politics is to protect the creative industrious few (the 'makers') from the depradations and theft of the masses (the 'takers'). Under this mindset democracy is inherently somewhat suspect, and far from the highest good, because it's constantly in danger of being corrupted by the more numerous masses by voting themselves the benefits of the work of the industrious few (which is little more than legalized theft).Paingod wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:53 am The GOP's blindness to truth can only be likened to a religious zeal. Like an unshakable faith in a god, they have developed an unshakable faith in their political righteousness. Anything that threatens that TRUTH, in their mind, is an insult and cannot be. There is no openness to debate. There is no reason. There is no room for questioning. There is only REPUBLICAN.
I'm willing to bet you can trigger the same parts of their brains when you start discussing or questioning their religious beliefs and political ones. The two have merged.
El Guapo wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 12:19 pmIt's more that the GOP is now dominated by this Randian mindset that holds that the most important thing in politics is to protect the creative industrious few (the 'makers') from the depradations and theft of the masses (the 'takers'). Under this mindset democracy is inherently somewhat suspect, and far from the highest good, because it's constantly in danger of being corrupted by the more numerous masses by voting themselves the benefits of the work of the industrious few (which is little more than legalized theft).Paingod wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 11:53 am The GOP's blindness to truth can only be likened to a religious zeal. Like an unshakable faith in a god, they have developed an unshakable faith in their political righteousness. Anything that threatens that TRUTH, in their mind, is an insult and cannot be. There is no openness to debate. There is no reason. There is no room for questioning. There is only REPUBLICAN.
I'm willing to bet you can trigger the same parts of their brains when you start discussing or questioning their religious beliefs and political ones. The two have merged.
Hence, why would McConnell or the GOP intervene to stop the Russians from interfering in the election, when the Russians were helping to elect the candidate who would better protect the industrious few from the rapacious masses?
I'm sure the quote has been around forever, but I saw it for the first time over the weekend."There are two novels that can change a bookish fourteen-year old's life: The Lord of the Rings and Atlas Shrugged. One is a childish fantasy that often engenders a lifelong obsession with its unbelievable heroes, leading to an emotionally stunted, socially crippled adulthood, unable to deal with the real world.
The other, of course, involves orcs."
What do we know about the author? Is he reputable? That might have to be the next book purchase.Smoove_B wrote:Oh, hey, nothing to look at here - just some commentary about how Mitch McConnell responded to the director of the CIA telling him about the Russian involvement with our democratic process in 2016:
Yikes. WaPo's @GregPMiller describes a tense moment from 2016 involving a CIA director trying to sound the alarm on Russia and a senior U.S. senator wanting none of it...
Based on interviews with hundreds of people in Trump’s inner circle, current and former government officials, individuals with close ties to the White House, members of the law enforcement and the intelligence communities, foreign officials, and confidential documents, The Apprentice offers striking new information about:
The hacking of the Democrats by Russian intelligence.
Russian hijacking of Facebook and Twitter.
National Security Adviser Michael Flynn’s hidden communications with the Russians.
The attempt by Jared Kushner, Trump’s son-in-law, to create a secret backchannel to Moscow using Russian diplomatic facilities.
Trump’s disclosure to Russian officials of highly classified information about Israeli intelligence operations.
Trump’s battles with the CIA and the FBI and fierce clashes within the West Wing.
Trump’s efforts to enlist the director of national intelligence and the director of the National Security Agency to push back against the FBI’s investigation of his campaign.
The mysterious Trump Tower meeting.
The firing of FBI Director James Comey.
The appointment of Mueller and the investigation that has followed.
The internal battles within Trump’s legal camp.
And Trump’s jaw-dropping behavior in Helsinki.
More importantly, has drumpf weighed in on it? Unless he says something like "Their quotes were made up frauds, a con on the public. Likewise other stories and quotes. <insert journalist name here> is a Dem operative? Notice timing?", I think it's a pass. The only way to know if it's the truth is if drumpf goes on record that it's not. If drumpf doesn't lose his shit in public, it's probably not worth reading.
"I hate the people you hate!" is how Trump won 2016.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:25 pm I actually heard the Head Turd say something to the effect of "The Democrats are trying to burn the country to the ground!" today or yesterday.
Some tricksy Trump whisperer is quite aware of the "they want to burn it all down" meme used to describe Deplorables, and now he's using it agin' us! Uncool, man, UNCOOL!
Man, there is so much vitriol toward Democrats/liberals/progressives in the R party right now, it's unbelievable. The anger is coming out of their eyes, and other orifices, willy nilly: Lindsey "Evil Babyface" Graham, Brett "Broham" Kavanaugh, uhhhh...who else. The Judge lady on Fox news. These people are SEETHING with bile and rancor.
Take it to the streets and it goes both ways. The way to guarantee our downfall is to win in 2018/20, then spend the next few years stigginit to the Republicans.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Man, there is so much vitriol toward Democrats/liberals/progressives in the R party right now, it's unbelievable.
Guilty. I know I shouldn't, but I want bad things to happen to McConnell, Trump and the rest of the Republican assholes. I've never felt the kind of long-running rage I do right now.Blackhawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 4:30 pmTake it to the streets and it goes both ways. The way to guarantee our downfall is to win in 2018/20, then spend the next few years stigginit to the Republicans.Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Tue Oct 02, 2018 3:25 pm
Man, there is so much vitriol toward Democrats/liberals/progressives in the R party right now, it's unbelievable.
