Social Media Discussion

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Mon Feb 20, 2023 10:59 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Mon Feb 20, 2023 9:52 pm I always equated the phrase ‘right to work’ with ‘non-union’ but that’s probably not quite right.

You're in the ballpark.

Right-to-Work Law

In the context of labor law in the United States, the term "right-to-work laws" refers to state laws that prohibit union security agreements between employers and labor unions which require employees who are not union members to contribute to the payment of union representation. Unlike the right to work definition as a human right in international law, U.S. right-to-work laws do not aim to provide a general guarantee of employment to people seeking work but rather guarantee an employee's choice to not pay or be a member of a financially supporting collective bargaining organization (i.e. labor union).

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 8:49 am

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... se-instead

On the weekend, Twitter announced that from 20 March, people who haven’t subscribed to Twitter Blue will have two-factor authentication via SMS disabled.

Twitter has recommended people use third-party apps or a security key instead, but for the overwhelming majority (74.4%) of the 2.6% of active Twitter users who use SMS as their method of authentication, it will mean they have a month to switch or potentially lose protection.

And something not about Twitter

https://www.theguardian.com/technology/ ... on-via-sms

Facebook and Instagram users will soon need to pay to be verified on the social media platforms, as Meta follows in the footsteps of rival platform Twitter.

Mark Zuckerberg, Meta’s chief executive, announced in a Facebook post on Sunday that the service would first roll out in Australia and New Zealand later this week.

The company said it would cost US$11.99 a month on web or US$14.99 on iOS and Android (or, in Australia, $19.99 on web or $24.99 on iOS and Android).

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:14 pm

Fscebook, sorry Meta, must be smoking something if they think those prices are reasonable. $14.99 on iOS and Android?? And that's per month. I would draw the line at $10.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:19 pm

What do subscribers get for that price? Does Facebook stop strip mining your personal data and cease carpet bombing you with ads?

Skinypupy · Post by **Skinypupy** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:27 pm

What does "verified" mean, exactly? Is that primarily for companies or "influencers" who make $$ on their names? Or would they be requiring every Joe Schmo who uses FB to be verified to have an account?

Because they day I have to actually pay for any social media service is the day I stop using it.

Post by **ImLawBoy** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:29 pm

So, is this not the best time to announce our plans for a verified subscription service to OO? You'd get an awesome

next to your user name!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:45 pm

ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:29 pm So, is this not the best time to announce our plans for a verified subscription service to OO? You'd get an awesome next to your user name!

We're long overdue to pay rent. I've been watching for FP fund raising requests. I'd give money out of turn but he requested us not to do so.

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:47 pm

LordMortis wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:45 pm
ImLawBoy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:29 pm So, is this not the best time to announce our plans for a verified subscription service to OO? You'd get an awesome next to your user name!
We're long overdue to pay rent. I've been watching for FP fund raising requests. I'd give money out of turn but he requested us not to do so.

Pay up or become simply Mister Mortis!

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:53 pm

I'm OK with that. I haven't touched Battle.net in I dunno how long, well over two decades.

That reminds me. I just read that Ultima Online is still around.

And the Internet informs me

A UO UP membership costs a flat rate of $98 per year.

Though "endless journey" is free.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:54 pm

Skinypupy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:27 pm What does "verified" mean, exactly? Is that primarily for companies or "influencers" who make $$ on their names? Or would they be requiring every Joe Schmo who uses FB to be verified to have an account?

Because they day I have to actually pay for any social media service is the day I stop using it.

Basically any big corporation, band/artist, brand or public facing entity usually get verified status to prove their validity. It's basically Facebook's way of proving who it is and to make it easier for Facebook users to follow.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:56 pm

Rumpy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:54 pm
Skinypupy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:27 pm What does "verified" mean, exactly? Is that primarily for companies or "influencers" who make $$ on their names? Or would they be requiring every Joe Schmo who uses FB to be verified to have an account?

Because they day I have to actually pay for any social media service is the day I stop using it.
Basically any big corporation, band/artist, brand or public facing entity usually get verified status to prove their validity. It's basically Facebook's way of proving who it is and to make it easier for Facebook users to follow.

Soooo basically I need to pay up if I want people to continue to believe that I am, indeed THE Jeffrey Lebowski?

Zaxxon · Post by **Zaxxon** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 3:58 pm

Techdirt has a nice rundown of why these verification subs are dumb, in both Twitter's and Facebook's case.

Jaymon · Post by **Jaymon** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:08 pm

Verschlimmbesserung

An attempt at improvement that only makes things worse.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:11 pm

It's ironic because by making them a pay service they devalue the reason why verified status is a thing in the first place, especially in Twitter's case. I don't know why they're making the mobile version more expensive than the web version either. Other than the fact that there are likely more mobile users can they can take advantage of.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:11 pm

Jaymon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:08 pm Verschlimmbesserung

An attempt at improvement that only makes things worse.

Wow, that is such a common occurence (especially in the mobile apps world) that I'm kind of surprised we don't also have a word for it. Those Germans are CLEVER.

coopasonic · Post by **coopasonic** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:35 pm

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:11 pm
Jaymon wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:08 pm Verschlimmbesserung

An attempt at improvement that only makes things worse.
Wow, that is such a common occurence (especially in the mobile apps world) that I'm kind of surprised we don't also have a word for it. Those Germans are CLEVER.

We just call it capitalism.

Carpet_pissr · Post by **Carpet_pissr** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:37 pm

For some unknown reason, I have always had a fascination with the German noun: Götterdämmerung, which means:

The myth of the destruction of the gods in a final battle with the forces of evil; the apocalypse

Fun to say, AND fun to think about!!

I bet they even have a single word for the situation when you are walking to your mailbox, forget that you are in your sleepwear, and instead of shamefully running back into the house, you boldy, balls swinging and free, forge ahead and brazenly open that mailbox whilst sipping your coffee like a boss.

German is like Bizarro American English.

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:48 pm

Rumpy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:11 pm It's ironic because by making them a pay service they devalue the reason why verified status is a thing in the first place, especially in Twitter's case. I don't know why they're making the mobile version more expensive than the web version either. Other than the fact that there are likely more mobile users can they can take advantage of.

The reason that the mobile versions cost more is probably due to the fact that Apple/Google get a slice of the pie if you pay through the app that you downloaded through their respective stores.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Wed Feb 22, 2023 7:28 pm

Max Peck wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 5:48 pm
Rumpy wrote: ↑Wed Feb 22, 2023 4:11 pm It's ironic because by making them a pay service they devalue the reason why verified status is a thing in the first place, especially in Twitter's case. I don't know why they're making the mobile version more expensive than the web version either. Other than the fact that there are likely more mobile users can they can take advantage of.
The reason that the mobile versions cost more is probably due to the fact that Apple/Google get a slice of the pie if you pay through the app that you downloaded through their respective stores.

Hmmm, that's one point I hadn't realized. Still doesn't make it any less shittier though.

gilraen · Post by **gilraen** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:34 pm

The ability to click on a link/news story on Twitter and open an external site is now broken. According to some tweets (ha!) the issues started early Monday morning. Presumably it has something to do with the API's ability to translate t.co URLs. When you click on a link or picture, it just brings you to an error page "{"errors":[{"message":"Your current API plan does not include access to this endpoint, please see https: //developer.twitter.com/en/docs/twitter-api for more information","code":467}]}"

Max Peck · Post by **Max Peck** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 1:44 pm

At the moment any tweet I try to load in a browser results in an error: Something went wrong. Try reloading.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:06 pm

Smoove_B · Post by **Smoove_B** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:12 pm

What the hell?

Billionaire Elon Musk is routinely followed around Twitter headquarters by two “bulky” bodyguards—even when he goes to the restroom, according to a Twitter engineer. The two bearded guards went viral back in January after they accompanied Musk at a securities fraud trial, and appear to have accompanied him to Twitter after his $44 billion purchase of the social media site. A Twitter engineer identified only as Sam told BBC News: “Wherever he goes in the office, there are at least two bodyguards—very bulky, tall, Hollywood movie bodyguards. Even when [he goes] to the restroom.” He said the constant use of bodyguards suggested that Musk, who has sacked a huge number of Twitter staff including coders, does not trust his remaining staff at Twitter HQ in San Francisco.

GreenGoo · Post by **GreenGoo** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:22 pm

Isgrimnur wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:06 pm

This fucking guy, I swear.

a) *He* rammed that "API" change through, with zero testing.
b) That's how software works. It breaks when you break it, you stupid f**k.
c) He's planning on rewriting twitter with a skeleton crew and almost zero corporate knowledge left? Is he high and/or drunk?
All of which brings us to d) he's trying to submarine the entire thing for some reason.

Does he usually have an entire team running around behind him cleaning up his messes that this is the first time the consequences of his actions have actually been revealed to him? Because holy hell a first year comp sci student could do a better job on the application side of things.

edit: And now I see he *does* have a team with him, just to keep people from punching his stupid face, but still. I'm sure those bodyguards have already earned their pay and more. Who doesn't want to punch him in the face?

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:26 pm

His simps that have no coding knowledge are probably eating up that excuse.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:35 pm

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:22 pm Who doesn't want to punch him in the face?

I laughed. I definitely want to punch him in the face.

Blackhawk · Post by **Blackhawk** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:41 pm

Elon Musk wrote:The code stack is extremely brittle for no good reason

Homer Simpson wrote:Bad bees! Bad! OW! OW! They're defending themselves somehow!

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:51 pm

Don't remember that one. But Homer and bees likely would not mix well.

Isgrimnur · Post by **Isgrimnur** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:53 pm

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:57 pm

This thing we broke that was never broken before is extremely breakable for some reason.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:42 pm

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:22 pm
Does he usually have an entire team running around behind him cleaning up his messes that this is the first time the consequences of his actions have actually been revealed to him? Because holy hell a first year comp sci student could do a better job on the application side of things.

At this point, it plays off like a shakespearean comedy. "I'm a genius! Pick up my mess, you nitwit! They don't need to see I'm bumbling."

LawBeefaroni · Post by **LawBeefaroni** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 8:22 pm

Rumpy wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 7:42 pm
GreenGoo wrote: ↑Mon Mar 06, 2023 5:22 pm
Does he usually have an entire team running around behind him cleaning up his messes that this is the first time the consequences of his actions have actually been revealed to him? Because holy hell a first year comp sci student could do a better job on the application side of things.

At this point, it plays off like a shakespearean comedy. "I'm a genius! Pick up my mess, you nitwit! They don't need to see I'm bumbling."

There's a Blackadder season 5 in there somewhere.

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:38 pm

Yeah, or even Monty Python. Boss comes into an office, causes lots of things to fall including bookshelves and desk, then leaves. Two more people come in and cleanup the mess he left behind while he gets hailed as a genius of his time, but meanwhile the ones behind the scenes are the real ones behind his work.

TheMix · Post by **TheMix** » Mon Mar 06, 2023 9:41 pm

Actually... doesn't the show already exist? Avenue 5?

malchior · Post by **malchior** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 8:57 am

Taunting people with their disabilities is one heck of a way to encourage the ever diminishing workforce.

LordMortis · Post by **LordMortis** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:02 am

What Musk was thinking:

The reality is that this guy (who is independently wealthy) did no actual work, claimed as his excuse that he had a disability that prevented him from typing, yet was simultaneously tweeting up a storm.

Can’t I say I have a lot of respect for that.

pr0ner · Post by **pr0ner** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 9:54 am

Rumpy · Post by **Rumpy** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 2:13 pm

Yeah, that'd be straight up discrimination. There are other ways he could have tweeted, say voice recognition. Can't say I have a lot of respect for Musk.

AWS260 · Post by **AWS260** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 3:26 pm

Very good thread.

Alefroth · Post by **Alefroth** » Tue Mar 07, 2023 4:54 pm

This would be legal trouble for Musk, wouldn't it?