Octopus Overlords

Grifman wrote: ↑Fri Mar 22, 2019 1:05 am

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Thu Mar 21, 2019 12:37 pm I still don't get the abject hatred of Epic. The days of having a single game platform are gone. They were gone when EA launched Origin, followed by Uplay and the Bethesda launcher. They're gone the same way having all your shows on one streaming platform is gone. Of all the different game platforms, the only one that gets this kind of absolute spite is Epic. Is it just because of the exclusives? They're not my favorite thing, either, but they're par for every other kind of media. Netflix exclusive Marvel shows. Amazon exclusive Lord of the Rings. XBox exclusive games. Spotify exclusive albums. We're not special, we just have competition for the first time in 15 years. Steam's had a near-monopoly for general game sales, and Epic's trying to end it. This is what that looks like, and I think it'll be good. It'll push Epic and Steam to both innovate and compete for our money.

The same game that plays the same way for the same price. Put it exclusively on Steam and people cheer. Put it exclusively on Epic and people rage. "BOYCOTT! NEVEREPIC!" Do people just hate Epic (the company) that much? Ubi and EA are so much worse to their customers, and they don't get this kind of hatred when the latest Assassin's Creed comes only to Uplay.

The problem is that Epic thinks developers are it's customer, not game buyers. All of their moves so far have been aimed at developers not consumers. If Epic had rolled out a storefront with more and better consumer friendly features than Steam, and/or completed by giving better prices that would have been one thing. But they didn't - they rolled out a totally inferior platform that is only able to compete by locking up games that look to be very popular or desired. Yes, they claim to be adding new features such as achievements, etc in the future, but they are not there now, when they make their initial impression.

And yes, I hate exclusives. I don't have a problem with EA/Ubisoft/Bethesda setting up their own platforms because those are their games to begin with. I'd prefer that I could buy them on Steam (and with Ubisoft I used to be able to do so until Epic - looks like their future games are moving there), but I understand. Netflicks and Amazon aren't relevant because it is their shows that they are producing. We are also used to different networks providing different and unique content - no one expects ABC shows to be on NBC, or Universal movies to be on the FX movie channel.

So in the end, for me it is exclusives - consumers want choice, but forcing me to use Epic to play a game I want isn't choice - it is anti-consumer.

- The “SteamSpy” app was actually an Epic employee that was gathering data for the Epic Store.

- They had a client in PUBG for years, then launched a directly competing product targeted at the same users. This prompted a lawsuit, which was later dropped.

- They were caught scraping the users’ Steam data.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sun Sep 01, 2019 10:06 am Obsidian makes some great games, and I'm really looking forward to this one. With that said, something about the graphics just don't do it for me. I can't figure out whether it's the tech, the stylistic choice, or something else, but something about it just bothers me.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:20 am Ugh! Too many games coming out all at once!

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 4:35 pm Looks great to me too. Cant afford it but someday will play it.

First 20 min....spoilers

Can you get a cheap Xbox Gamepass for PC? I got a free 3 month trial and this is included. Already finished Gears 5 on the Gamepass.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 pm Looks neat with all the games and the $5 price but it requires Win 10 and I refuse to move from Win 7 64

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:44 pm The actual gameplay looks a lot better than the trailer.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 pm Looks neat with all the games and the $5 price but it requires Win 10 and I refuse to move from Win 7 64

In about ten weeks you'll stop getting any form of security updates.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 10:40 pm

Can you get a cheap Xbox Gamepass for PC? I got a free 3 month trial and this is included. Already finished Gears 5 on the Gamepass.

Looks neat with all the games and the $5 price but it requires Win 10 and I refuse to move from Win 7 64

Blackhawk wrote:
In about ten weeks you'll stop getting any form of security updates.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Tue Oct 15, 2019 11:46 pm Wont affect me any.

Daehawk wrote: ↑Thu Oct 17, 2019 5:52 pm Hasn't happened in 3 years. Back when I heard about Windows Update installing nagware to get you to switch to Win 10 I turned it off and never ran it again. Works just fine and never a problem. Theres free software I use for antivirus and adware and such. I never see any. Dont you remember all this from years ago when you guys claimed the same thing would happen and it never did? Dont believe all the crap big companies spout.