Re: Game of Thrones Season 8
Posted: Wed May 15, 2019 6:48 pm
Then fly over to the Red Keep and turn it to glass. Laying waste to the whole city was ridiculous.
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Dragon's don't kill people, dragon riders kill people.Ralph-Wiggum wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 5:22 pmThat’s like saying someone shooting people didn’t actually do the killing himself.Combustible Lemur wrote:While the scale could be problematic, she didn't actually do much killing herself. She rode on her birthright and flammed scurrying vermin in the maze below.
Mass murder usually is.Daveman wrote:Then fly over to the Red Keep and turn it to glass. Laying waste to the whole city was ridiculous.
So it was a giant McGuffin.Combustible Lemur wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 7:16 pmMass murder usually is.Daveman wrote:Then fly over to the Red Keep and turn it to glass. Laying waste to the whole city was ridiculous.
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Why does someone murder another person after a lifetime of rationality? I know! Shitty writing.noxiousdog wrote:So it was a giant McGuffin.Combustible Lemur wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 7:16 pmMass murder usually is.Daveman wrote:Then fly over to the Red Keep and turn it to glass. Laying waste to the whole city was ridiculous.
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We've got 10 minute to turn Dany crazy. How can we do that after 7 seasons of rationality? I know. Destroy King's Landing after they surrender!
Q)Is there something else you wish Varys had gotten to do?
It would have been great to have had one more meeting with Littlefinger. I think they tried to make that work and couldn’t. It just felt like after season 6, I kind of dropped off the edge. I can’t complain because it’s six great seasons and I had some great scenes these last two seasons. But that’s when It changed for me a little. There was that Magnificent Seven trek up north to bring a white walker back. It makes total sense that Varys wouldn’t go. But the human in you is like, “I want to go.” It made perfect sense. He’s not a hero, he’s not a fighter. And even when they went back to King’s Landing a couple times they sneaked him in there. They had set it up that he knew the city like the back of his hand so I guess he was just … I dunno. I’m not dissatisfied on the whole. It sounds like I am. But it’s been brilliant.
Q) What was your favorite Varys scene?
I loved the traveling with [Tyrion actor Peter Dinklage] and just the two of us in that cart. I think the stuff that was said in there understood the nature of freaks and outsiders so precisely. In a way, that was lost when we got past [the narrative in George R.R. Martin’s] books. That special niche interest in weirdos wasn’t as effective as it had been. Last season and this season there were great scenes and then I’d come in and kind of give a weather report at the end of them — “film at 11.” So I thought he was losing his knowledge. If he was such an intelligent man and he had such resources, how come he didn’t know about things? That added to my dismay.
Yes, and that's on them. Let the next career choice you make be turned into publically international vitriol extravaganza.noxiousdog wrote:They didn't have to deliver in such a short time. HBO wanted more episodes and they declined.
I hope after this series finishes that the (four!) spin offs wind up buried. Its pretty obvious that any show after this won't be worth watching.Rumpy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:09 am And the funny thing is, this doesn't reflect well on them if their next big project is the prequel series. They kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one, because they've kind of shown themselves unable to commit to one of the most popular shows on the planet.
A few bad seasons here and there doesn’t take away the fact that the show has had some pretty great ones. I see no reason to think the spin offs would be automatically awful.Drazzil wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:48 amI hope after this series finishes that the (four!) spin offs wind up buried. Its pretty obvious that any show after this won't be worth watching.Rumpy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:09 am And the funny thing is, this doesn't reflect well on them if their next big project is the prequel series. They kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one, because they've kind of shown themselves unable to commit to one of the most popular shows on the planet.
Getting ready to take the Iron Throne of courseZaxxon wrote:But seriously, though, where is Hot Pie?
You've seen the drastic quality turn after they veered from his books. Why would you think the next would be different? It will be Michael Bay in Westeros.hepcat wrote:I guess since I'm not really a Martin fanboy, I'm not as quick to predict a horrible future for his intellectual property.
I actually agree, but since that's probably not clear based on my recent posts, I thought I should clarify: DB & Dan clearly are good writers. After all, even when they were on the book path, they were writing a lot of scenes that were not directly from the books. I think the dramatic downturn stems largely from the decision to play the final two seasons in extreme fast-forward more than anything else. I'm pretty sure they could have ended the series on approximately the same quality level as the first several seasons--they do have Martin's outline. They simply made a conscious choice to super-speed things, and that choice turned out to be very not so extremely great.hepcat wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:03 am I guess I haven't seen the drastic turn since they went off book. I thought they handled quite a few things well after they left the realms of the source material. They've been "off book" since season 5 (had to look that up, thought it was actually later), and with the exception of this last season and a few episodes here and there, I thought it has been fine. At the very least, not any indication that we should be tearing out our hair and ripping at our clothes over some perceived inability of anyone but Martin being able to craft a decent show about medieval characters caught up in Rome level politics.
Their next big project isn't the prequel serieses. It's Star Wars.Rumpy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:09 am And the funny thing is, this doesn't reflect well on them if their next big project is the prequel series. They kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one, because they've kind of shown themselves unable to commit to one of the most popular shows on the planet.
You do realize that "them" is not involved in any of the proposed/greenlighted projects, right?Rumpy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:09 am And the funny thing is, this doesn't reflect well on them if their next big project is the prequel series. They kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one, because they've kind of shown themselves unable to commit to one of the most popular shows on the planet.
This is one of the frustrating aspects of the whole situation that I really don't understand. Why did HBO management accept to their "demands"? Were they so worried that the show would lose its mojo if the two writers left? You would think HBO had enough knowledge and experience in this space that they could just told them to hit the highway, have fun, we are going to do 10 full seasons with or without you. Maybe it was some contractual stuff that I have not seen or something, cause it seems strange that two writers had that much influence.Combustible Lemur wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 11:21 pmYes, and that's on them. Let the next career choice you make be turned into publically international vitriol extravaganza.noxiousdog wrote:They didn't have to deliver in such a short time. HBO wanted more episodes and they declined.
Once the decision was made the clock was ticking is what I'm saying.
They also the producers. I don't really know anything about Hollywood contracts, but they are significantly more valued than your average two writers.Toe wrote:This is one of the frustrating aspects of the whole situation that I really don't understand. Why did HBO management accept to their "demands"? Were they so worried that the show would lose its mojo if the two writers left? You would think HBO had enough knowledge and experience in this space that they could just told them to hit the highway, have fun, we are going to do 10 full seasons with or without you. Maybe it was some contractual stuff that I have not seen or something, cause it seems strange that two writers had that much influence.Combustible Lemur wrote: ↑Wed May 15, 2019 11:21 pmYes, and that's on them. Let the next career choice you make be turned into publically international vitriol extravaganza.noxiousdog wrote:They didn't have to deliver in such a short time. HBO wanted more episodes and they declined.
Once the decision was made the clock was ticking is what I'm saying.
Yep, exactly. They had material back then. The minute they had to rely on their own material, the quality tanked and they queued themselves an easy exit from the show. It's not hard to predict the kind of quality we should expect out of a prequel series if they're the ones writing. The writing is kind of on the wall.
Well, I did ask earlier in the thread about this and was told that Yes, they were involved.Jeff V wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 9:37 amYou do realize that "them" is not involved in any of the proposed/greenlighted projects, right?Rumpy wrote: ↑Thu May 16, 2019 2:09 am And the funny thing is, this doesn't reflect well on them if their next big project is the prequel series. They kind of shot themselves in the foot with that one, because they've kind of shown themselves unable to commit to one of the most popular shows on the planet.
This can go way up if people are satisfied at the end state. I'm not sure they can kill any of the remaining principle characters and achieve this outcome, however.
Try over 400k.hepcat wrote:Over 30,000 people want season 8 remade.
Yeah, good luck with that. I look forward to the fan made, youtube exclusive remake starring a plumber and a school nurse as Jan and Dany, and their schnauzer as Drogon.