Ford Mustang Mach-E

[Zaxxon]

Grats.

[gbasden]

Great googly-moogly!

Sweet! I don't have a VIN or build date yet, but that's not unexpected given that you ordered well before I did. But I also hear that GTs are getting released faster than Premiums, so who knows. An acquaintance ordered his GT at the beginning of October and it's already being built.

[gbasden]

Great googly-moogly!

Sweet! I don't have a VIN or build date yet, but that's not unexpected given that you ordered well before I did. But I also hear that GTs are getting released faster than Premiums, so who knows. An acquaintance ordered his GT at the beginning of October and it's already being built.

I'm pretty surprised that our build dates are so similar. I guess it's true that the GTs are getting built more quickly.

[stessier]

Great googly-moogly!

Sweet! I don't have a VIN or build date yet, but that's not unexpected given that you ordered well before I did. But I also hear that GTs are getting released faster than Premiums, so who knows. An acquaintance ordered his GT at the beginning of October and it's already being built.

I'm pretty surprised that our build dates are so similar. I guess it's true that the GTs are getting built more quickly.

Could also be that due to our salesman being fairly clueless, we didn't confirm the transfer of our 2021 order to a 2022 until Dec 8th. Glad you're getting yours relatively soon! Love the color!

[Brian]

There are several "Easter Eggs" hidden about the Mach E

One example is "Electric Ponies Live Here" stenciled on the wheel motors

[gbasden]

Love the color!

Well, Kraken gave me such grief over my beautiful dark grey ICE Mustang being "primer grey" that I figured I needed to brighten things up this time.

[stessier]

It exists!

[Zaxxon]

Sweet!

[coopasonic]

Let me know when you are ready to race!

[Carpet_pissr]

Did not know MPGe was a thing until I saw it on that sticker. Very cool!

[Jaymann]

Did not know MPGe was a think until I saw it on that sticker. Very cool!

Interesting that City is better than Highway. I guess flooring it costs.

[coopasonic]

Did not know MPGe was a think until I saw it on that sticker. Very cool!

Interesting that City is better than Highway. I guess flooring it costs.

it's not the acceleration, it's the speed and the related wind resistance. The energy consumption curve is more linear for a BEV as it basically uses very close to what is actually required. ICE cars are always making way more power than they need and throwing lots of it away.

[pr0ner]

Did not know MPGe was a think until I saw it on that sticker. Very cool!

Interesting that City is better than Highway. I guess flooring it costs.

On top of what Coop said, regenerative braking is a thing, too.

[Zaxxon]

Did not know MPGe was a think until I saw it on that sticker. Very cool!

Interesting that City is better than Highway. I guess flooring it costs.

On top of what Coop said, regenerative braking is a thing, too.

Yup. See also the rebuttals to the 'what if you're stuck in traffic?' headlines from awhile back. Gasoline-powered vehicles are always burning gas and never get any of it back. BEVs use what they need, and recapture a bunch of it when stopping.

[stessier]

Whelp, something unfortunate happened but not exactly sure what. Got this email.

HERE’S THE LATEST ON YOUR VEHICLE

Thanks again for placing your 2022 Mustang Mach-E Premium order. We’re working hard to assemble your vehicle, but it’s going to take more time than expected to finish it.

We want to make sure it’s assembled right, so we will be performing quality checks, inspections and tests before it’s delivered to you.

We know there’s a lot of anticipation when it comes to getting into a new vehicle, so we’ll make sure to keep you updated. Once your vehicle is assembled, you’ll be hearing from us again with an estimated date for delivery to your dealer.

The window sticker is no longer available. The As Built file doesn't list any modules, which means it's not built. This is unfortunate.

[Zaxxon]

Bummer. Hopefully it's not a significant delay.

[gbasden]

Just got notice that my car is built and going through post build checks. The estimated delivery date is May 10-17. Hopefully that won't slip too much.

[stessier]

Just got notice that my car is built and going through post build checks. The estimated delivery date is May 10-17. Hopefully that won't slip too much.

Congrats and I hate you.

[gbasden]

Just got notice that my car is built and going through post build checks. The estimated delivery date is May 10-17. Hopefully that won't slip too much.

Congrats and I hate you.

Sorry!!!

[Zaxxon]

Looking forward to the delivery AAR.

[Daehawk]

Not sold on the flower power style wheels. Do like that color.

[stessier]

Just got notice that my car is built and going through post build checks. The estimated delivery date is May 10-17. Hopefully that won't slip too much.

Congrats and I hate you.

Sorry!!!

I take back the hate - just got the notice that mine is built with a delivery estimate of April 25-May 1. I'm back in the race!

[Zaxxon]

[gbasden]

I take back the hate - just got the notice that mine is built with a delivery estimate of April 25-May 1. I'm back in the race!

Awesome! I'm glad yours is back on track!

[gbasden]

Not sold on the flower power style wheels. Do like that color.

I'm not thrilled with the rims either. But that's easily fixed.

[stessier]

I take back the hate - just got the notice that mine is built with a delivery estimate of April 25-May 1. I'm back in the race!

Got the email that it has shipped. They are still projecting April 25 - May 1.

[gbasden]

I take back the hate - just got the notice that mine is built with a delivery estimate of April 25-May 1. I'm back in the race!

Got the email that it has shipped. They are still projecting April 25 - May 1.

Mine's been built for a week, but I still haven't gotten a shipping confirmation.

[Carpet_pissr]

Just saw a Mach-E GT pop up on my Carvana alerts: 4K miles, 2021, $71K

Would love one, but don't really want to pay Carvana tax.

[stessier]

And it wouldn't qualify for the tax credit.

[Carpet_pissr]

And it wouldn't qualify for the tax credit.

Oof! Right, totally kills it.

[Apollo]

...Yup. See also the rebuttals to the 'what if you're stuck in traffic?' headlines from awhile back. Gasoline-powered vehicles are always burning gas and never get any of it back. BEVs use what they need, and recapture a bunch of it when stopping.

Right, but what if you're running the radio, your A/C, headlights and wipers in a traffic jam, a common occurrence here in rainy Alabama.

I'm all for electric cars as they are clearly the future of transportation. However, I have zero desire to own one and I dearly hope I can spend the rest of my years driving cars with Internal Combustion Engines. As a car nut, it's hard for me to imagine getting excited about a car that makes no sound no matter how fast it is or how good it looks.

For me personally, driving an electric car would be like having an Android for a wife: She might be beautiful and do everything well, but she'll never have a heart or soul.

Now an electric bicycle? That's a totally different story...

[Zaxxon]

...Yup. See also the rebuttals to the 'what if you're stuck in traffic?' headlines from awhile back. Gasoline-powered vehicles are always burning gas and never get any of it back. BEVs use what they need, and recapture a bunch of it when stopping.

Right, but what if you're running the radio, your A/C, headlights and wipers in a traffic jam, a common occurrence here in rainy Alabama..

Those power draws are inconsequential relative to the power required to move the car. (And the savings from driving slowly in a traffic jam relative to highway speeds) That was the point of my quote.

[The Meal]

Right, but what if you're running the radio, your A/C, headlights and wipers in a traffic jam, a common occurrence here in rainy Alabama.

I literally read this quote as if he were being disingenuously snarky as in a typical, uneducated, EV-basher. The twist ending, that this is to be taken literally, caught me off guard.

There are folks who literally leave their EV's headlights on all night long while camping (for instance), just because it's convenient to do so. Maintaining the cabin temperature isn't inconsequential (but using the heated seats to keep warm as an alterative is a relative nothingburger—however, I don't think there's an equivalent low energy cooling option, as it's the moving parts, such as motors and blowers, which really pull the juice).

On the other hand, this is very true:

Now an electric bicycle? That's a totally different story...

It's the closest feeling most of us will have to approach what it must be like for self-powered flight. It's amazeballs.

[coopasonic]

I'm all for electric cars as they are clearly the future of transportation. However, I have zero desire to own one and I dearly hope I can spend the rest of my years driving cars with Internal Combustion Engines. As a car nut, it's hard for me to imagine getting excited about a car that makes no sound no matter how fast it is or how good it looks.

For me personally, driving an electric car would be like having an Android for a wife: She might be beautiful and do everything well, but she'll never have a heart or soul.

I'm a car guy too. My vehicular history is a variety of cars with carbs, V8 engines and manual transmissions, eventually turning into Japanese sporty sedans. I currently drive one of the slowest cars Tesla sells (well they don't sell my exact config anymore) and when you hit that accelerator, it's a rush every single time, even 3.5 years later. Your connection to the car feels deeper because it responds instantly to every input. The quiet is a feature, the noise is a distraction. If you haven't driven an EV, don't judge it until you try it (but like, don't make it a Leaf please!).

[gbasden]

Just saw a Mach-E GT pop up on my Carvana alerts: 4K miles, 2021, $71K

Would love one, but don't really want to pay Carvana tax.

There are a number of dealers that are getting Mach-E's and are selling at MSRP. A lot of those are selects, but those are still reasonably well equipped if you don't demand high performance. I'd suggest calling your local dealers and letting them know you are interested.

[Carpet_pissr]

I was ready to pull the trigger on one of these (FINALLY) but now I see the wait time has increased to 32+ weeks...i.e. it's getting worse, not better. Wah. Not willing to wait that long.

Was CONSIDERING leasing something in the meantime to hold me over while I wait, but 32 freaking weeks? (and that's IF they make that target, could very well get pushed to much longer obviously).

Also I wonder what happens to that sweet $7500 credit if your car production moves into the next year? Sure, you put down a deposit, but is that a bill of sale which qualifies for THAT year's credit? Ford might exceed their quota by the time my car gets built.

[Zaxxon]

Also I wonder what happens to that sweet $7500 credit if your car production moves into the next year? Sure, you put down a deposit, but is that a bill of sale which qualifies for THAT year's credit? Ford might exceed their quota by the time my car gets built.

The vehicle must be in service (in your hands) to qualify for the credit. So if they exceed prior to that, you'd get whatever is left at the point you take delivery (which ramps down over several quarters starting in the quarter *after* the quarter *after* the one where they hit the cap).

[Daehawk]

They should give you the latest model year

[Carpet_pissr]

As I am considering PHEV's as well, I just found out that the federal tax credit is not as straightforward as I was thinking (course it's not!).
1. It's not $7500 for all vehicles...UP TO $7,500 (and the Sorento PHEV I got a quote for was actually $6850)
2. You have to actually OWE at least the amount of the credit to get it. So if you typically get back money from the govt after paying taxes, and continued on like that, your federal tax credit for buying an EV would be: zero. If the credit for your vehicle is $7500, and you owe $2500 that year in taxes, your credit would be $2500, not $7500. You would have to adjust your witholdings I guess (not a HUGE deal), to accomodate.

Just way too much work and guesswork and timing that could go wrong to buy one of these IMO (for me, obviously, I am jealous of youse who already bought, or in the process). I would be supremely pissed if I ordered an EV, and something happened (seems very easy) that precluded me from getting $6-$7K that I was expecting.

[gbasden]

As I am considering PHEV's as well, I just found out that the federal tax credit is not as straightforward as I was thinking (course it's not!).
1. It's not $7500 for all vehicles...UP TO $7,500 (and the Sorento PHEV I got a quote for was actually $6850)
2. You have to actually OWE at least the amount of the credit to get it. So if you typically get back money from the govt after paying taxes, and continued on like that, your federal tax credit for buying an EV would be: zero. If the credit for your vehicle is $7500, and you owe $2500 that year, your credit would be $5K, not $7500. You would have to adjust your witholdings I guess (not a HUGE deal), to accomodate.

Just way too much work and guesswork and timing that could go wrong to buy one of these IMO (for me, obviously, I am jealous of youse who already bought, or in the process). I would be supremely pissed if I ordered an EV, and something happened (seems very easy) that precluded me from getting $6-$7K that I was expecting.

Not completely true. If you get money back from the government because your withholding is high, that won't matter. You will just get more back from the government. If your total tax bill for the year is less than $7500, then you can't take full use of the credit. But if your tax bill is that low, I'd be surprised if you could afford a car like this. I still say you reach out to the dealers nearby and let them know you are interested if they get one that someone backs out on. An acquaintance of mine lucked into one a few weeks back that way.