NFL 2021 Postseason

[El Guapo]

All the high profile college jobs have been filled. I'm guessing he lays low for 2-3 years before we see him jump into the college ranks somewhere.

I'm always grateful for Urban putting Utah on the college football map, and am even more grateful that he left when he did. I've heard lots of stories from the players while he was here...dude's got issues.

Oh yeah. It's in his best interests to wait a bit before taking his next job anyway, both so that the right opportunity opens up and so that people forget a bit about all his BS. Might make sense to take a few months off and then look for an analyst / commentator gig for a year or so.

Has he ever left with this must losing, exposure, and negative feedback internally though? This might be an end for him in any high profile job and he might not want to a not so high profile job if has enough bank in his pockets.

He's far from the first college coach to implode at the pro level. He'll be fine.

[stessier]

All the high profile college jobs have been filled. I'm guessing he lays low for 2-3 years before we see him jump into the college ranks somewhere.

I'm always grateful for Urban putting Utah on the college football map, and am even more grateful that he left when he did. I've heard lots of stories from the players while he was here...dude's got issues.

Oh yeah. It's in his best interests to wait a bit before taking his next job anyway, both so that the right opportunity opens up and so that people forget a bit about all his BS. Might make sense to take a few months off and then look for an analyst / commentator gig for a year or so.

Has he ever left with this must losing, exposure, and negative feedback internally though? This might be an end for him in any high profile job and he might not want to a not so high profile job if has enough bank in his pockets.

He's far from the first college coach to implode at the pro level. He'll be fine.

I've never seen one implode this way. Usually they just lose a lot. Kicking players, being horrible toward assistants, moral issues...it's kind of an impressive list given it was less than a year.

[El Guapo]

All the high profile college jobs have been filled. I'm guessing he lays low for 2-3 years before we see him jump into the college ranks somewhere.

I'm always grateful for Urban putting Utah on the college football map, and am even more grateful that he left when he did. I've heard lots of stories from the players while he was here...dude's got issues.

Oh yeah. It's in his best interests to wait a bit before taking his next job anyway, both so that the right opportunity opens up and so that people forget a bit about all his BS. Might make sense to take a few months off and then look for an analyst / commentator gig for a year or so.

Has he ever left with this must losing, exposure, and negative feedback internally though? This might be an end for him in any high profile job and he might not want to a not so high profile job if has enough bank in his pockets.

He's far from the first college coach to implode at the pro level. He'll be fine.

I've never seen one implode this way. Usually they just lose a lot. Kicking players, being horrible toward assistants, moral issues...it's kind of an impressive list given it was less than a year.

I mean, for sure being such an impressive combination of an asshole and a failure that you can't last a year with the Jacksonville Jaguars is...definitely not good for him, there's no way around that.

But like, have you met Greg Schiano or Bobby Knight? Unless there's some criminal / #MeToo stuff lurking here as well, he'll land on his feet. Assuming that he wants to coach again at the college level, the only question is whether it'll be at a Tier 1 program level, or whether it'll have to be like a Tier 1A that's trying to compete with the big boys.

[Skinypupy]

All the high profile college jobs have been filled. I'm guessing he lays low for 2-3 years before we see him jump into the college ranks somewhere.

I'm always grateful for Urban putting Utah on the college football map, and am even more grateful that he left when he did. I've heard lots of stories from the players while he was here...dude's got issues.

Oh yeah. It's in his best interests to wait a bit before taking his next job anyway, both so that the right opportunity opens up and so that people forget a bit about all his BS. Might make sense to take a few months off and then look for an analyst / commentator gig for a year or so.

Has he ever left with this must losing, exposure, and negative feedback internally though? This might be an end for him in any high profile job and he might not want to a not so high profile job if has enough bank in his pockets.

He's far from the first college coach to implode at the pro level. He'll be fine.

I've never seen one implode this way. Usually they just lose a lot. Kicking players, being horrible toward assistants, moral issues...it's kind of an impressive list given it was less than a year.

Urban has always been horrible, but that was all glossed over because he was winning at every level.

I've talked with multiple players who played for him at Utah. While every one has said what a great coach he was, I have yet to hear anyone say he was actually a great person. Usually quite the opposite.

[El Guapo]

All the high profile college jobs have been filled. I'm guessing he lays low for 2-3 years before we see him jump into the college ranks somewhere.

I'm always grateful for Urban putting Utah on the college football map, and am even more grateful that he left when he did. I've heard lots of stories from the players while he was here...dude's got issues.

Oh yeah. It's in his best interests to wait a bit before taking his next job anyway, both so that the right opportunity opens up and so that people forget a bit about all his BS. Might make sense to take a few months off and then look for an analyst / commentator gig for a year or so.

Has he ever left with this must losing, exposure, and negative feedback internally though? This might be an end for him in any high profile job and he might not want to a not so high profile job if has enough bank in his pockets.

He's far from the first college coach to implode at the pro level. He'll be fine.

I've never seen one implode this way. Usually they just lose a lot. Kicking players, being horrible toward assistants, moral issues...it's kind of an impressive list given it was less than a year.

Urban has always been horrible, but that was all glossed over because he was winning at every level.

I've talked with multiple players who played for him at Utah. While every one has said what a great coach he was, I have yet to hear anyone say he was actually a great person. Usually quite the opposite.

Yup. But he's a proven winner at the college level, and there's not much indication that spending a year bombing at the pro level (even if it was unusually spectacular) will change that assessment of his college coaching ability.

[Pyperkub]

Urban Meyer fired after 13 games.

Allegedly kicking his kicker was the last straw. Darrell Bevell will be the interim head coach.

Least shocking news ever. I never expected he would make a good NFL coach, especially with a rebuilding franchise. His entire MO in college was to come into places that were already loaded with talent and nudge them over the top.

I’m only surprised it didn’t happen while either the USC or ND jobs were open.

Was Utah loaded when he came in?

[Jaymann]

I'm glad I'm not an Urban Meyer weener.

In other news the Chargers face the Chiefs for AFC West bragging rights. I checked and the Chargers have beaten the Chiefs in 2 straight and 3 of the last 6 (though admittedly some of those were garbage time for the Chiefs). This is the big one.

[ImLawBoy]

Urban Meyer's personal failings are nothing new and have been public, particularly in the college football community, for years. He left both Florida and OSU under clouds. I imagine he'll be back in the college world after after a year or two where he can "find himself" or something equally silly. That type of tyrant is much more accepted/encouraged at the college level than in the NFL, I think.

[Lassr]

Urban Meyer's personal failings are nothing new and have been public, particularly in the college football community, for years. He left both Florida and OSU under clouds. I imagine he'll be back in the college world after after a year or two where he can "find himself" or something equally silly. That type of tyrant is much more accepted/encouraged at the college level than in the NFL, I think.

at this point I would think...hope, parents would not let their sons sign with him. At the most heavily encourage their sons not to sign. I can't imagine a college president trying to win over the boosters/fans about signing him as their coach at this point. He's had too many strikes. I could be wrong but hope I'm not, he doesn't deserve another chance, he's always been a deceitful slimeball, it's just even more public now.

[Skinypupy]

Urban Meyer fired after 13 games.

Allegedly kicking his kicker was the last straw. Darrell Bevell will be the interim head coach.

Least shocking news ever. I never expected he would make a good NFL coach, especially with a rebuilding franchise. His entire MO in college was to come into places that were already loaded with talent and nudge them over the top.

I’m only surprised it didn’t happen while either the USC or ND jobs were open.

Was Utah loaded when he came in?

As loaded as an old Mountain West team could be, yeah. He inherited Alex Smith and a nasty defense, which is a pretty good way to start. In 2004 (his undefeated year), the closest game that year was a 17-point win at Arizona, which was a pretty big deal at the time.

Urban was here two years, took Utah to the Fiesta Bowl as the first ever "BCS Buster", then bolted for Florida.

[stessier]

The Browns are in bad shape with the latest COVID outbreak.



I wonder if the new rule change is going to let them field a real team.

[stessier]

3 games have been postponed:

Las Vegas Raiders-Cleveland Browns NFL game moved to Monday
Tuesday for Los Angeles Rams-Seattle Seahawks, Washington Football Team-Philadelphia Eagles

[Hrothgar]

John McClain thinks Urban Meyer's firing might inspire the Jags to beat the Texans. Of course, he had already predicted the Texans too lose out the rest of the season. Take it as you will.

[Jaymann]

John McClain thinks Urban Meyer's firing might inspire the Jags to beat the Texans. Of course, he had already predicted the Texans too lose out the rest of the season. Take it as you will.

What does a detective know about football?

[Isgrimnur]

Sporting News

The Bills appear to be the biggest Andy Dalton fan outside of Cincinnati.
...
Bills fans were so enthused that they began flooding Dalton's foundation, the Andy & Jordan Dalton Foundation, with donations.

Buffalo

More than 17,000 donors, in a display of grassroots generosity that snowballed on social media, combined to raise $442,000 for the Andy and Jordan Dalton Foundation, a nonprofit founded by the football player and his wife to benefit seriously ill and physically challenged children and their families.

A monthslong investigation by The Buffalo News found that nearly a quarter of the money – about $100,000 – went to the company that managed the nonprofit, a far larger share than is customary, according to industry experts.
...
As The News raised questions, the Dalton Foundation ended its relationship with Prolanthropy and Jordan Dalton said it will donate all money directly to hospitals "so 100% of proceeds go to families in need."
...
Prolanthropy charged the Dalton Foundation 22.5% of all revenue received by the nonprofit for its various services, according to the contract.

"I draft these agreements for a living," said Morton, a partner at Handler Thayer LLP in Chicago and chair of the firm's sports and entertainment law group. "They are 5% to 10% most of the time, and I won't do one that's over 20%. That's the absolute outer bound."

Prolanthropy also takes 20% of the value of noncash donations, a rarity in the nonprofit sector, industry experts said.

[Jeff V]

So the Browns-Raiders game is going to be a better option than the originally scheduled Bears-Vikings game on Monday....

[Jaymann]

Another any given Sunday. The Saints demonstrated how to beat Brady, without even a real quarterback.

[Ralph-Wiggum]

Another any given Sunday. The Saints demonstrated how to beat Brady, without even a real quarterback.

By injuring the Bucs' top 2 WRs and top RB?

[Isgrimnur]

Another any given Sunday. The Saints demonstrated how to beat Brady, without even a real quarterback.

By injuring the Bucs' top 2 WRs and top RB?

It was the Saints...

[Jaymann]

Another any given Sunday. The Saints demonstrated how to beat Brady, without even a real quarterback.

By injuring the Bucs' top 2 WRs and top RB?

I was thinking the third down sacks, but...

[Jeff V]

Huh, fun fact, the Bears are apparently the only team who has yet to have a TD drive of less than 50 yards. When given a gift, they seem to refuse it. And this is why Nagy will soon join me on the unemployment line.

[Jaymann]

Amazing that as of this morning the Ravens are out of the playoffs. The Bengals lead their division and the Bills are clinging to the final spot.

[Isgrimnur]

Bills have two division games to play. They still have a shot at the division title.

[RunningMn9]

Bills have two division games to play. They still have a shot at the division title.

They control their own destiny.

[stessier]

Bills have two division games to play. They still have a shot at the division title.

They control their own destiny.

So do the Pats. After this weekend, only the winner controls their destiny. No pressure.

[RunningMn9]

So do the Pats. After this weekend, only the winner controls their destiny. No pressure.

Not if we control ours first!!

I am not filled with confidence heading into this weekend. It doesn’t help that my fantasy football championship hopes ride on the game as well.

[Jaymann]

Crap, 49ers at Titans is on NFL Network only, no Fox or Prime. I wanted to watch but will have to settle for highlights. All I need do is not check the score first.

[Isgrimnur]

There are ... ways.

[El Guapo]

There are ... ways.

[Jaymann]

It worked. I got to watch the full highlights without knowing the outcome, and it was a great game. Definitely a tale of two halves.

[Pyperkub]

It worked. I got to watch the full highlights without knowing the outcome, and it was a great game. Definitely a tale of two halves.

And the Niners defense. Their last two losses have been 100% on the failure to double cover a single receiver - Metcalf (once Lockett went down) and Brown. DeMeco Ryans is doing pretty well in his first year, but this flaw is glaring. They could easily be 10-5 on a seven game win streak.

[naednek]

It worked. I got to watch the full highlights without knowing the outcome, and it was a great game. Definitely a tale of two halves.

And the Niners defense. Their last two losses have been 100% on the failure to double cover a single receiver - Metcalf (once Lockett went down) and Brown. DeMeco Ryans is doing pretty well in his first year, but this flaw is glaring. They could easily be 10-5 on a seven game win streak.

I keep saying should have gone for CBs instead of a shiny toy

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[Pyperkub]

It worked. I got to watch the full highlights without knowing the outcome, and it was a great game. Definitely a tale of two halves.

And the Niners defense. Their last two losses have been 100% on the failure to double cover a single receiver - Metcalf (once Lockett went down) and Brown. DeMeco Ryans is doing pretty well in his first year, but this flaw is glaring. They could easily be 10-5 on a seven game win streak.

I keep saying should have gone for CBs instead of a shiny toy

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They all have been injured.

[Jaymann]

Stupid Prime Video shows the game that's on Fox but not the one only on NFL Network. Oh well, avoid scoreboard and watch highlights.

[naednek]

It worked. I got to watch the full highlights without knowing the outcome, and it was a great game. Definitely a tale of two halves.

And the Niners defense. Their last two losses have been 100% on the failure to double cover a single receiver - Metcalf (once Lockett went down) and Brown. DeMeco Ryans is doing pretty well in his first year, but this flaw is glaring. They could easily be 10-5 on a seven game win streak.

I keep saying should have gone for CBs instead of a shiny toy

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They all have been injured.

yes, and the starters we had in the beginning of the season was nothing to be excited about and had gaping holes.

[Pyperkub]

Eh, Verrett showed last year he is extremely talented, just injury prone.

[stessier]

The refs on the Pats/Bills game would be wise not to eat anything in MA after the game.

[Skinypupy]

The refs on the Pats/Bills game would be wise not to eat anything in MA after the game.

Pats linemen should probably figure out to stop yapping after every play.

[RunningMn9]

The refs on the Pats/Bills game would be wise not to eat anything in MA after the game.

Welcome to what the rest of the NFL has been dealing with for the last 20 years. There was nothing in that game that was especially noteworthy in terms of bad officiating. And I don’t say that as a Bills fan, I say that as a observer of chronic bad officiating.

[RunningMn9]

The refs on the Pats/Bills game would be wise not to eat anything in MA after the game.

Pats linemen should probably figure out to stop yapping after every play.

Those two calls probably drew the most ire. The flag on Hughes was weak sauce anyway, I’m surprised but not shocked that they picked that one up.

And I *hate* the taunting rule. But it’s Week 16 and every player knows about the taunting rule by now. You probably shouldn’t do it while a ref is staring at you.

Also, if you are going to complain about the Hughes call-then-non-call, then we are going to have to talk about Judon and that dirty as shit trip incident early in the game.