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LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:38 pm
Blackhawk wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pm That I agree with. The petty hate and revenge mentality that both sides have is going to destroy us.
"Going to" is a tad optimistic, isn't it?


See? We even have to redefine 'optimism' as 'believing we're about to be doomed' vs 'already doomed.'
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pm
gbasden wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pm
stimpy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.

Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
Are you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?
Yes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.
Regardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.
She resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.
So what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?

How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
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stimpy wrote:How about you pay closer attention to the content, not the source?
If I thought it was in anyway manipulative or misleading, I wouldnt have posted it.
Shit content, shit source, shit post.

Of course you would post it, stimpy.
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Zarathud wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 9:19 pm
stimpy wrote:How about you pay closer attention to the content, not the source?
If I thought it was in anyway manipulative or misleading, I wouldnt have posted it.
Shit content, shit source, shit post.

Of course you would post it, stimpy.
Good to know you're okay with someone from the Democratic party trying to blame the horrific incident on karma, because....you know....Wisconsin.....
There is no doubt or argument she said it, so why are you defending her? Because I linked to The Daily Mail?
That doesnt make it any less true. No justification for saying it's "shit content" unless you agree with her.
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geezer wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pm
gbasden wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pm
stimpy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.

Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
Are you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?
Yes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.
Regardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.
She resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.
So what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?

How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
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geezer wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pm
gbasden wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pm
stimpy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.

Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
Are you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?
Yes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.
Regardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.
She resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.
So what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?

How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
Yeah, because every time a Republican says something stupid and appalling, that's EXACTLY what happens to them......fucking ridiculous point.
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stimpy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 10:08 pm Good to know you're okay with someone from the Democratic party
That someone from the Democratic party is irrelevant. It's a single loonie, and has no bearing on anything outside of her immediate presence. It isn't representative of anything. It is, at best, a head-shaker about a single individual saying something distasteful in isolation.

Nobody defended her. We criticized you for pretending that what she said mattered just because she was a Democrat.
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By GOP rules, the power of social media is limited when posted in anime.

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stimpy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 11:56 pm
geezer wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 5:09 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:36 pm
gbasden wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:33 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:19 pm
stimpy wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:16 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Mon Nov 22, 2021 4:15 pm I'd have to add that elected congressmen don't exactly fit the exercise here. They have constituencies some, perhaps most, of whom presumably agree with their stance.

Like I said, this is a social media director for a county level organization.
Are you not aware of the power that social media has these days, for good and (mostly) bad?
Yes, I am. We're not discussing her reach or influence. We're discussing her relevance as representative of the Democratic Party.
Regardless, it's a stupid statement and she should be ashamed she said it. I swear, the amount of dumb in this country is seriously disheartening, and it's not confined to one political party.
She resigned so I assume she regrets it. Posting it at least.
So what you’re saying here is that high-profile democrats didn’t double down, defend, and make financial appeals to their general constituency in response to her unacceptable statements? And no leading Democrat has gone out of their way to offer her a job in their office? And no Democrat has amplified her statement or made her a cause celebre?

How can that be? BOTH PARTIES, dammit.
Yeah, because every time a Republican says something stupid and appalling, that's EXACTLY what happens to them......fucking ridiculous point.
Just so we’re clear, is your contention that Marjorie Taylor Greene isn’t stupid and appalling, or isn’t embraced by the GOP? How about Trump? Did Michael Flynn, former National Security Advisor pardoned by the Republican President for federal crimes, not recently say that America should have just one religion? Yeah. Both parties.
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Cherry picking
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stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:28 amCherry picking
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geezer wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:45 am
stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:28 amCherry picking
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I wasn't going to jump on but that made me laugh for two reasons. 1) It's funny in itself. 2) I thought it was extended funny because I am under the impression chrerry picking went into the book of the "Paternal Power Structure" verboten expressions.
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A President, National Security Adviser or US Representative would be more cherry than some random state level Democrat.
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Every time a rando Republican says or does something stupid and it's reported as "news", you guys jump on it as if it's representative of all Republicans.
The fact you keep trying to deflect from this is telling.
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stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:05 am Every time a rando Republican says or does something stupid and it's reported as "news", you guys jump on it as if it's representative of all Republicans.
The fact you keep trying to deflect from this is telling.
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Yeah.....I keep forgetting how impartial this board is.
No bias here......nothing to see........
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stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:05 am Every time a rando Republican says or does something stupid and it's reported as "news", you guys jump on it as if it's representative of all Republicans.
The fact you keep trying to deflect from this is telling.
Assuming that it's true (I'm not sure - I'll watch closer), this has what to do with you doing it?

If it is such a terrible thing to do, why are you using it to excuse doing the same thing?
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geezer wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:45 am
stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 9:28 amCherry picking
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stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:11 am Yeah.....I keep forgetting how impartial this board is.
No bias here......nothing to see........
Pfft. This board will be the first to tell you that this board is biased.

But there are different kinds of bias.
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I want to join a forum that I know is predominantly run by those who love puppies so I can get pissed at people talking about how much they love puppies.
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Bullshit. That's what puppies are.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:13 am
stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:11 am Yeah.....I keep forgetting how impartial this board is.
No bias here......nothing to see........
Pfft. This board will be the first to tell you that this board is biased.

But there are different kinds of bias.
I wish this was about bias. You can discuss bias at least.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:19 am Bullshit. That's what puppies are.
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Bias is refusing to recognize that the GOP is actively kicking out those who don’t follow Trump (Liz Cheney) and have decades of branding their own as RINOs.

It’s not bias to call out your feeble attempts at argument.
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malchior wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:19 am
Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:13 am
stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:11 am Yeah.....I keep forgetting how impartial this board is.
No bias here......nothing to see........
Pfft. This board will be the first to tell you that this board is biased.

But there are different kinds of bias.
I wish this was about bias. You can discuss bias at least.
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Zarathud wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:23 am It’s not bias to call out your feeble attempts at argument.
Thats exactly what it is.
When you can search the board and find hardly a trace of any Dems being called out for their issues, it's bias at it's best.
I guess when you're brainwashed into thinking your party can do no wrong, or if they do it's justified for whatever reason (Trump), that's not surprising.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:26 am
malchior wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:19 am
Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:13 am
stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:11 am Yeah.....I keep forgetting how impartial this board is.
No bias here......nothing to see........
Pfft. This board will be the first to tell you that this board is biased.

But there are different kinds of bias.
I wish this was about bias. You can discuss bias at least.
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Apparently you guys need to call a secret meeting, because not all members of your tribe agree that the board is biased.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:12 am
stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:05 am Every time a rando Republican says or does something stupid and it's reported as "news", you guys jump on it as if it's representative of all Republicans.
The fact you keep trying to deflect from this is telling.
Assuming that it's true (I'm not sure - I'll watch closer), this has what to do with you doing it?

If it is such a terrible thing to do, why are you using it to excuse doing the same thing?
It's called balance.
You should try it sometime.....
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I wish the GOP would.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:26 am
malchior wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:19 am
Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:13 am
stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:11 am Yeah.....I keep forgetting how impartial this board is.
No bias here......nothing to see........
Pfft. This board will be the first to tell you that this board is biased.

But there are different kinds of bias.
I wish this was about bias. You can discuss bias at least.
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stimpy wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 10:29 am When you can search the board and find hardly a trace of any Dems being called out for their issues, it's bias at it's best.
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The idea that democrats can't be criticized is ludicrous. We have multiple threads about the disfunction and bad choices they are making.

There are still conservatives on the board (that aren't crazy), a lot of moderates, and whatever Little Raven considers himself now :D.
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It's important to see past bias for each issue. I lean heavily to the left but reject wokeness and SJW. I support AOC on climate change, but she is an idiot for voting against reconciliation. I support police reform but defund the police is self-destructive madness. I support free speech which means I oppose shouting down speakers on campus.
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noxiousdog wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:55 am There are still conservatives on the board (that aren't crazy), a lot of moderates, and whatever Little Raven considers himself now :D.
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The Democrats couldn’t agree on Biden’s spending bill. The idea that there is any Dem propaganda solidarity is fantasy.

Did you not see the cartoon about Dem propaganda and Republican memes?
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The Dems and and a small number of Republicans comprise the spectrum of American politicians committed to the self-governing, self-legislating Republic established in the 18th century and enduring through all the crises and progress since then. There's a wide range of political opinion within this group.

Most current Republicans and their allies have decided that it would be better to destroy that Republic in order to preserve white supremacy at any cost (including oligarchy).

It's that simple.
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Blackhawk wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 2:38 pm
noxiousdog wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 11:55 am There are still conservatives on the board (that aren't crazy), a lot of moderates, and whatever Little Raven considers himself now :D.
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Zarathud wrote: Tue Nov 23, 2021 12:51 am By GOP rules, the power of social media is limited when posted in anime.

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Pic is funny. You could scratch "meme" and "propaganda" off that puppy and it would be even more relevant.
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Serves me right.
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Add another thing democrats and the left are shit at in America: Domestic violent extremism.
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