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2022 is truly the second-best year to upgrade your GPU

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Re: 2021 is truly the best year to upgrade your GPU

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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 12:58 pm I gave up and just purchased an entirely new rig.
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The market is showing all the signs of overbought status and will likely correct very very soon.
BIG AUTO just moved their chip shortage projections from 2023 to 2024, citing the IoT as now competing for silicon processing at an ever expanding rate and nobody can catch up anywhere, even if they had the labor, which they don't.

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I still don't think the advice changed - trying to buy a loose video card right now (and in July) was insane. But if you buy a pre-built, you're not paying scalper prices because those cards are being allocated to PC manufacturers directly by the places making them. At least, that was my understanding.
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I bought a Microcenter PC for availability reasons. Early in the year even the PC gaming rigs were back ordered.
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Smoove_B wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:22 pm I still don't think the advice changed - trying to buy a loose video card right now (and in July) was insane. But if you buy a pre-built, you're not paying scalper prices because those cards are being allocated to PC manufacturers directly by the places making them. At least, that was my understanding.
The prices on pre-built systems have been adjusted somewhat as well and timelines are still suck because people realized buying systems is the way to go. I have 3 gaming PCs to cover my kids and I, if any of them have hardware issues I weep for my wallet. The worst one has a 1660 Super, luckily he mostly plays Terraria which is fine with that.
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LordMortis wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:11 pm Whod'a thunk we couldn't move sand through the system quick enough?
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As did I, this week in fact. I got an Alienware from Worst Buy with a 3080 in it. I calculated via Amazon prices just buying the video card and the CPU on Amazon would cost as much as what I paid. Crazy times. I didn't want to wait 1-2 more years for an upgrade (at minimum), so just gritted my teeth and bought it. So far, so good other than not being able to get surround sound to work going HDMI from PC to TV HDMI to TV HDMI-ARC to soundbar. This seems to be a common problem. Windows/NVIDIA should not make this so difficult. People have been complaining about this for many years and I haven't seen any solution except dodgy ones involving modded drivers. But, I digress...

I am not sure when building your own PC will be viable again, but probably not until 2023 at earliest would be my guess.
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Buying an entire new system isn't really an option that I'd like to pursue as I just custom built my rig a year ago and is still high-end with the notable exception of the video card. When I built the system I got everything but the video card since the 3xxx series was just around the corner from release and boy did that not work out as hoped.

I theoretically could buy a new system for the wife and scalp the card out of that machine but then she would still need a card. Possibly I could put the 980ti in there but, as noted, it's been failing pretty consistently.
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Brian wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 6:36 pm Buying an entire new system isn't really an option that I'd like to pursue as I just custom built my rig a year ago and is still high-end with the notable exception of the video card. When I built the system I got everything but the video card since the 3xxx series was just around the corner from release and boy did that not work out as hoped.

I theoretically could buy a new system for the wife and scalp the card out of that machine but then she would still need a card. Possibly I could put the 980ti in there but, as noted, it's been failing pretty consistently.
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I'll give it a shot.

I did do a fresh OS reinstall recently in hopes to resolve the issue but it's been getting consistently worse as time goes by.

Oddly, the only game that really seems unaffected has been Read Dead 2 which taxes the system pretty hard and Civ 6 is the worst offender, crashing every 15 minutes or so.
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Isgrimnur wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 2:40 pm
LordMortis wrote: Thu Sep 16, 2021 1:11 pm Whod'a thunk we couldn't move sand through the system quick enough?
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Isg wins the thread. Move along.

(On topic-ish) Microsoft says they'll only support my OS for four more years, so I reckon I'll buy a new system then. This one will be 7 years old by then. Meanwhile, I don't game anymore and I already have a video card that's way overpowered for web surfing.
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Kraken wrote: Fri Sep 17, 2021 12:27 am (On topic-ish) Microsoft says they'll only support my OS for four more years, so I reckon I'll buy a new system then. This one will be 7 years old by then. Meanwhile, I don't game anymore and I already have a video card that's way overpowered for web surfing.
in which case you can still get by with that same machine for... welll... the rest of your life (just replacing parts as they break). congratulations! you've reached PC upgrade endgame.
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Well, those you waiting for the prices to drop to a more reasonable rate won't have to wait much longer.

I held out as long as I could but finally ended up paying $800+ for a 12g 3060.

That means prices will almost certainly drop in the next day or two. :doh:
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Brian wrote: Fri Oct 01, 2021 9:51 am Well, those you waiting for the prices to drop to a more reasonable rate won't have to wait much longer.

I held out as long as I could but finally ended up paying $800+ for a 12g 3060.

That means prices will almost certainly drop in the next day or two. :doh:
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Me too. No prices on anything requiring microchips are going to drop soon.
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That upcoming $200 AMD 6500XT 4g has my eye. Since I cant build new for 2 years and my system is 11 years old with a gtx 760 Id love a 6500XT.
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2022 is probably the second best year to upgrade your CPU
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hitbyambulance wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:23 am 2022 is probably the second best year to upgrade your CPU
haha, we should just change "best" to "absolute worst" in the thread title until the chip shortage ends.
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JCC wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 5:49 pm
hitbyambulance wrote: Mon Jan 10, 2022 2:23 am 2022 is probably the second best year to upgrade your CPU
haha, we should just change "best" to "absolute worst" in the thread title until the chip shortage ends.
Uhhh, pretty sure the title is sarcastic. :p
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 10:01 am Uhhh, pretty sure the title is sarcastic. :p
LOL, it's been so long, I just assumed this was carried over from 2019. My bad!
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I cancelled and then reordered the computer for my daughter. I'll be ripping the 3070 out of there and giving her the 1070ti. She doesn't do anything that needs a 3070 so we'll both be happy. This also means that card prices will drop like a rock the second the return window closes. You're welcome! :P
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Octavious wrote: Tue Jan 11, 2022 5:03 pm I cancelled and then reordered the computer for my daughter. I'll be ripping the 3070 out of there and giving her the 1070ti. She doesn't do anything that needs a 3070 so we'll both be happy. This also means that card prices will drop like a rock the second the return window closes. You're welcome! :P
At this point I think my office has a 3080 (mine), 2070 (12yo son's) and 1060 1660 (15yo son's). That 1060 really could use a boost. I guess we'll see what the bonus looks like in Feb and then the tax return. Ought to be able to do something.

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The 3070 is blowing the 1070TI out of the water even with my old CPU. Can't wait to upgrade that half later in the year. The only downside is the 3070 is some OEM that is made just for HP and well it looks cheap. Works fine so I guess it doesn't really matter.
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