Octopus Overlords

Grifman wrote: ↑Mon Mar 13, 2023 12:40 pm How does someone who was once a lt. colonel in the USAF descend into such insanity?

Crockett on Jan 6 Defendant Conditions: This is not the norm. Even in the women’s area, art therapy, yoga, acupuncture. These are things that we can't even find for my people that aren't incarcerated.. There are two types of tablets. They’ve got a barbershop.

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:26 am I would think ‘normal’ jail has barbers as well, no? That would be weird (and unsanitary probably).

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:49 am

Carpet_pissr wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 11:26 am I would think ‘normal’ jail has barbers as well, no? That would be weird (and unsanitary probably).

Jail? Maybe some larger ones, probably contracting someone to come in once every couple of weeks. Prison, absolutely.

Things like art therapy, yoga, and tablets with educational materials? Also absolutely. I mean, art therapy and yoga aren't specifically guaranteed, but most prisons have a variety of programs designed to help people who aren't always the most stable and/or educated improve themselves. It benefits the offenders (they can improve themselves), it benefits the public (most offenders are eventually released), and it benefits the staff (if you're going to be locked in a steel room with 100+ criminals, then busy offenders, tired offenders, and stable offenders are a big step up from bored, frustrated, angry offenders.)

LawBeefaroni wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 12:45 pm Are the Jan 6 prisoners getting special treatment? I don't know. But her take is pretty weak.

The congressional delegation was led by Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene, R-Ga., one of the most vocal critics of the detainment of individuals charged in connection with the attack on the U.S. Capitol.

Speaking with ABC News earlier this week, Greene said the visit would focus on the conditions of those being jailed, including what Greene claimed to be "reports of abuse."

Greene claimed those being held pretrial are "not allowed to see their families, many times are not allowed to see their attorneys" and that "the food has been a major complaint. There's been complaints of it tasting like cleaner."

On Friday, Republican and Democratic members emerged after just over two hours with widely different views on what they saw regarding the conditions inside.

Blackhawk wrote: ↑Sat Mar 25, 2023 3:57 pm And yeah, staff got to eat the same food. It was... OK. Actually, it was a step up from school cafeterias.

Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:46 pm

Robert Sanford, wearing prison orange, told Senior Judge Paul L. Friedman that he was embarrassed, ashamed and disgusted by his behavior on Jan. 6. Sanford, who worked as a firefighter in Chester, Pennsylvania, was arrested in mid-Jan. 2021, and has already spent roughly eight months in custody, which will be shaved off his 52-month sentence. He will also serve three years of supervised release.

"Mob mentality is real, and I got caught up in it," Sanford said, apologizing to the officers he assaulted and to first responders who saw his conduct that day, saying he'd been proud of the work he'd done as a firefighter.
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Sanford, his attorney said, had worked with an individual who specializes in "cult deprogramming" and was "confronted with facts about the 'stolen election' conspiracy theory among others and how psychological manipulation is used to indoctrinate the followers of a conspiracy."

Barr: “Yes. I thought Jan. 6th was a clown show.There was no threat.”

hepcat wrote:Barr would sell his children to anyone who could promise him relevance.

hepcat wrote:He's never going to have power. The best he can hope for is relevance in the GOP.

GreenGoo wrote: ↑Tue May 09, 2023 7:48 am 138 police officers were injured.

But they weren't threatened, at least.

In a jailhouse phone call, Proud Boy Joe Biggs — recently convicted of seditious conspiracy — calls on supporters of Capitol attack defendants to nail down Ron DeSantis on whether he'll pardon Jan. 6 defendants.

"Shit, vote for Trump." — Proud Boy Dominic Pezzola, recently convicted of seditious conspiracy, on a jailhouse phone call after being asked what supporters of Jan. 6 defendants could do to help them.Dominic Pezzola says “nothing got fixed” since the 2020 election, and he thinks the 2024 election could still be “stolen” by fraud.

“Get out there and watch your polls,” Pezzola said. “I believe 2024 is make it or break it point for our county.”

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:59 pm

Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:46 pm

Why don't you just post the actual articles?

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 pm To irritate self appointed posting police such as yourself.

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 pm To irritate self appointed posting police such as yourself.

The man, Christopher R. Grider, 41, of Eddy, Texas, had also tried to shut off the electricity at the Capitol, pressing buttons on an electric utility box while yelling, “Turn the power off!” according to prosecutors.

Grider, who operates a vineyard in central Texas, pleaded guilty last year to entering a restricted area and unlawfully parading at the Capitol, his lawyer said. He went to trial on seven other charges, including civil disorder and violent entry and disorderly conduct on Capitol grounds, and Judge Colleen Kollar-Kotelly of U.S. District Court in Washington, D.C., convicted him on all counts.

On Tuesday, Kollar-Kotelly sentenced Grider to six years and 11 months in prison and ordered him to pay $5,055 in restitution and an $812 fine.

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:59 pm

Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:46 pm

Why don't you just post the actual articles?

To irritate self appointed posting police such as yourself.

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:43 pm

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:59 pm

Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:46 pm

Why don't you just post the actual articles?

To irritate self appointed posting police such as yourself.

Achievement unlocked!

noxiousdog wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:00 pm

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 pm To irritate self appointed posting police such as yourself.

FWIW, with all of the Twitter fiasco lately, I'm only about 10% likely to read a twitter link.

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 6:07 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 2:43 pm

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 12:51 pm

Pyperkub wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:59 pm

Grifman wrote: ↑Tue Apr 11, 2023 3:46 pm

Why don't you just post the actual articles?

To irritate self appointed posting police such as yourself.

Achievement unlocked!

In all seriousness, I post the tweet rather than the link because the tweet saves me from having to describe what the link is about, as the tweet usually does that.

That said, why do posted links not include a graphic like some other forums do? I’m guessing it is a limitation of the forum software?

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 6:07 pm In all seriousness, I post the tweet rather than the link because the tweet saves me from having to describe what the link is about, as the tweet usually does that.

Grifman wrote: ↑Wed May 24, 2023 6:07 pm In all seriousness, I post the tweet rather than the link because the tweet saves me from having to describe what the link is about, as the tweet usually does that.

Jessica Watkins, an Army veteran and member of the far-right Oath Keepers, was sentenced Friday to 8.5 years in prison for participating in a plot to disrupt the certification of the 2020 presidential election culminating in the January 6, 2021, attack on the US Capitol.

Judge Amit Mehta said Watkins’ efforts at the Capitol were “aggressive” and said she did not have immediate remorse, even though she has since apologized.

“Your role that day was more aggressive, more assaultive, more purposeful than perhaps others’. And you led others to fulfill your purposes,” Mehta said. “And there was not in the immediate aftermath any sense of shame or contrition, just the opposite. Your comments were celebratory and lacked a real sense of the gravity of that day and your role in it.”

At trial, prosecutors showed evidence that Watkins founded and led a small militia in Ohio and mobilized her group in coordination with the Oath Keepers to Washington, DC, on January 6. Watkins and her counterparts ultimately marched in tactical gear to the Capitol and encouraged other rioters to push past police outside the Senate chamber.
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Two of Watkins’ codefendants, Stewart Rhodes and Kelly Meggs, were sentenced Thursday to 18 and 12 years in prison, respectively, for seditious conspiracy.

Unlike Rhodes and Meggs, Watkins was acquitted of the top charge of seditious conspiracy, but convicted of conspiracy to obstruct an official proceeding – which carries the same 20-year maximum prison sentence as seditious conspiracy – as well as other felony charges.

Just hours after being released from federal custody Thursday, Jacob Chansley, the convicted Jan. 6 rioter dubbed “Qanon Shaman” for his distinctive Capitol riot costume, is back on Twitter. And it appears he isn’t giving up the bit.

In his first post back, Chansley uploaded a computer-generated image of himself howling in the back of a police car—while wearing his namesake headdress and red, white and blue face paint. The caption was just one word: “FREEDOM!!!”

Shortly after, Chansley posted a five-minute clip on the “Forbidden Truth Podcast” Twitter account. It contained a rambling monologue in which he insisted that he has “learned numerous lessons during the test which God has graced me with over the last two and a half years.”

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But the latter, darker half of Chansley’s video contained several veiled references to his continuing quest for “the truth”—and an ongoing fight against “global corruption” that echoes the language of conspiracy theories like QAnon.

“The final lesson I will share is the power that we each wield when we live by and speak truth,” Chansley said. “Speaking the truth can topple corrupt empires and free whole nations that have been enslaved by illusions. The Buddha once said that three things cannot be hidden long: sun, moon and truth.”

It’s unclear what specific “truth” Chansley was referencing.