I was listening to Beau of the 5th column today and he says that according to a survey 18-34 year olds are not proud of their country. These people tend also to vote the least. Beau says they do this because their interests are ignored. I tend to agree with him.malchior wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:57 pmIt also has the problem that it is bullshit. It looks partisan and weak if he has mountains of evidence and they do nothing. It also gives credence to the sense common amongst many citizens that our institutions are corrupt and the elite are just going to do whatever they want anyway. It isn't hard to draw a line to the idea that many folks think this country isn't worth fighting for.YellowKing wrote: ↑Tue Jul 05, 2022 4:21 pmThat right there pretty much sums up the problem with the Democratic party. Who the heck cares if it gives the appearance of a partisan witch hunt? The GOP certainly doesn't care about appearing partisan, and it's worked pretty damn well for them.Kraken wrote:That's some good cover against the appearance of a partisan witch hunt, which is supposedly Garland's biggest objection.
I am not going to list everything here, but I will bet every starry eyed young person who voted for Barack Obama didn't expect him to be in the pockets of citigroup, or govern like Republican lite.
They didn't expect Hillary Clinton to strangle Bernie's campaign in the crib, twice, Trump , turning out in record numbers for Biden, only to have their interests ignored, AGAIN, this time with angry lectures, have ROE repealed while the Democrats sing god bless America...
And why should they? Vote to keep the system just functional enough to protect the interests of the boomer generation that sacrificed them on the altar of tax cuts? To keep it limping along and ignoring them?
I bet the mental arithmetic spoken or unspoken is as follows: Why should I legitimize a country that's fucking me and my interests? I bet if I leave it alone long enough wither it will collapse on its own, or will mutate into something that threatens ALL generations so much that we will all have to come together and kill?
This is the crux of my argument. Why should the 18-34's work within a rigged system to take on a generational fight save the imaginary futures they can't afford to have?
The country is well on the route to collapsing or becoming so odious that EVERYONE regardless of age or wealth level will have to deal with in the short term future... Why vote?
I'd kind of love to have an answer to this, as this is probabally the best sum up of the argument I've been making for years.