Firefox hating on goolge properties
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- LordMortis
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Firefox hating on goolge properties
I'm getting this frequently from multiple machines, multiple ISPs, multiple DNS. Google stuff just freaks out and stop loading. Two things ward off the problem.
1) opening the window again in a private window
2) removing the s from https
3) using a different browser...
This has been going on for like two weeks. As many other things as I dislike about FF, I'm loathe to use the major competitors Chrome/Edge. This could change the game if I don't get an easy fix soon.
Anyone else get this? It can't just be me when it's across multiple everything... Though now that I think about it, GMail does happen across all devices... hrrmmm... Maybe a cache cleanse and no more gmail aka google trackers might fix it...
1) opening the window again in a private window
2) removing the s from https
3) using a different browser...
This has been going on for like two weeks. As many other things as I dislike about FF, I'm loathe to use the major competitors Chrome/Edge. This could change the game if I don't get an easy fix soon.
Anyone else get this? It can't just be me when it's across multiple everything... Though now that I think about it, GMail does happen across all devices... hrrmmm... Maybe a cache cleanse and no more gmail aka google trackers might fix it...
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
I work on a web-based application that hates aggressive browser caching. I have caching disabled in Firefox entirely to eliminate an extra layer of frustration when troubleshooting issues. So you can try it - I don't know how well it actually works now, they keep changing it between browser versions. It used to be an option in the Settings menu, now you go to the URL box, enter about:config, search for use-cache and toggle it to false.
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
Personally, I prefer to deGoogle as much as possible.LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 3:58 pm I'm getting this frequently from multiple machines, multiple ISPs, multiple DNS. Google stuff just freaks out and stop loading. Two things ward off the problem.
1) opening the window again in a private window
2) removing the s from https
3) using a different browser...
This has been going on for like two weeks. As many other things as I dislike about FF, I'm loathe to use the major competitors Chrome/Edge. This could change the game if I don't get an easy fix soon.
Anyone else get this? It can't just be me when it's across multiple everything... Though now that I think about it, GMail does happen across all devices... hrrmmm... Maybe a cache cleanse and no more gmail aka google trackers might fix it...
But the suggestions provided in this Reddit thread may help with the difficulty you describe.
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
This is exactly why I resist every effort of Big Google to have me link my devices, much less use my phone to access my bank account (JFC!). Likewise with Microsoft trying to force me to use Edge every time I boot up. As far as I am concerned, convenience = death.
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- LordMortis
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
use-cache setting didn't exist but it added when I typed it.
I'll see if that helps. Thanx
I'm afraid of the reddit thread bacause I don't understand what it is doing. I don't want to gimp the security of the browser to get google stuff to work better. Especially because google wants to spy on me as much as it possibly can.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/commen ... except_in/
This describe me exactly
I'll see if that helps. Thanx
I'm afraid of the reddit thread bacause I don't understand what it is doing. I don't want to gimp the security of the browser to get google stuff to work better. Especially because google wants to spy on me as much as it possibly can.
https://www.reddit.com/r/firefox/commen ... except_in/
This describe me exactly
Last edited by LordMortis on Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:53 pm, edited 2 times in total.
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
i'm using FF and i do not have this issue, so it's something on your end.
first thing to always try is clear cache on page reload (or 'hard reload')
Hold down Ctrl, Shift and the 'R' key
or
Hold down Ctrl and press F5
first thing to always try is clear cache on page reload (or 'hard reload')
Hold down Ctrl, Shift and the 'R' key
or
Hold down Ctrl and press F5
- LordMortis
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
Clearing cookies that manage data seem to work on this workstation. I'll have to hit the others.... after making sure google doesn't have me auto logged in.
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
FWIW, the first suggestion in the Reddit thread I linked to, of disabling 0-RTT, enhances your Firefox security and privacy, as explained in this Firefox Hardening guide:LordMortis wrote: ↑Fri Nov 12, 2021 4:41 pm use-cache setting didn't exist but it added when I typed it.
I'll see if that helps. Thanx
I'm afraid of the reddit thread bacause I don't understand what it is doing. I don't want to gimp the security of the browser to get google stuff to work better. Especially because google wants to spy on me as much as it possibly can.
And the latter suggestion equates to flushing the cookies and site data of the problematic site(s).wevpn.com wrote:Disable 0-RTT
Zero Round Trip Time Resumption (0-RTT) is a feature that is new in TLS 1.3 that allows a client and server to negotiate a connection with fewer steps, allowing https websites to load more quickly. There are two problems with this. First, in order to do this you lose forward secrecy (generating a new key for every session and throwing away the key when the session is over). Secondly, 0-RTT requires special implementation in order to prevent replay attacks, which some web developers will certainly fail to protect from. Disabling 0-RTT enhances security and privacy.
To Disable 0-RTT: Type security.tls.enable_0rtt_data into the search bar, and double click on the setting to set the feature to false. This will force full secure negotiation for all connections made by Firefox.
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- LordMortis
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Re: Firefox hating on goolge properties
Dammit. Nope not fixed. It really does seem to be a caching problem directly related to google. Going to go back and redo things. Also I'm going to see about updating my ad blocker.