The insurrection committee's public hearings

[stessier]

Bannon is guilty on both counts.

[Smoove_B]

BREAKING: A DC federal jury finds former Trump White House aide Steve Bannon guilty of two counts of contempt of Congress stemming from his failure to comply with a subpoena by the Jan. 6 House select committee

[Skinypupy]

So is this something that carries an actual punishment?

Or will it simply be a slap on the wrist that Bannon will wear as a badge of honor from here until the end of days?

[Smoove_B]

Good question.

The criminal offense of contempt of Congress sets the penalty at not less than one month nor more than twelve months in jail and a fine of not more than $100,000 or less than $100.

I'd like to think he'll be in jail for 24 months and paying $200K, but I don't know if that's realistic.

I also want some of the 1/6 rioters to literally hang, so maybe I'm not the best judge here.

[malchior]

I would hope his previous felony convictions and his antics will end up with him drifting towards the top if the range versus the low end or middle.

[Smoove_B]

Sentencing isn't until the end of October which means this mother f-er will have spent a year of his life free and clear after refusing to appear before Congress.

[hepcat]

30 days at most. That’s my prediction.

[Zaxxon]

The number of independents who think it was an insurrection and threat to democracy has gone up 9% since December.

There are no 'independents.' Just folks who can't be bothered enough to pay literally any attention whatsoever.

To continue the discussion of how far gone we are, I'm currently on a family road trip through the southeast. An incomplete catalogue of experiences thus far:
-TN: A literal Trump store, opening soon, advertised to carry true patriot gear (on the Pigeon Forge parkway)
-TN: Some dude walking past my masked wife in a store: 'Damn brainwashed Democrat.'
-AL: Multiple groups of people who drove out to a national monument (masks required) without masks. I didn't see any incidents where folks got angry, but one nice old lady told me it 'never even crossed [her] mind that they'd require a mask. I haven't worn one in over a year.'
-GA: Dozens of signs decreeing that 'baby's heart beats 18 days after conception.' Baby doesn't have a heart and isn't a baby at that point. Probably a hundred more signs urging to choose life, like Jesus did.
-GA: 'Don't be a Democrat.' billboards, decrying the liberal mental affliction consuming America, pointing to americanaffliction.com.

Still to come: more FL, MS, AR. Should be a blast. We truly live in a shattered place.

[LordMortis]

There are no 'independents.' Just folks who can't be bothered enough to pay literally any attention whatsoever.

Well, except gas prices.

[Zaxxon]

[Unagi]

That was shared on the the previous page by pr0ner.
Just fyi.

But maybe someone should re-post it every new page, now that I think about it.

[Zaxxon]

That was shared on the the previous page by pr0ner.
Just fyi.

But maybe someone should repost it every new page, now that I think about it.

Whups, but also agreed.

[Carpet_pissr]

The number of independents who think it was an insurrection and threat to democracy has gone up 9% since December.

There are no 'independents.' Just folks who can't be bothered enough to pay literally any attention whatsoever.

To continue the discussion of how far gone we are, I'm currently on a family road trip through the southeast. An incomplete catalogue of experiences thus far:
-TN: A literal Trump store, opening soon, advertised to carry true patriot gear (on the Pigeon Forge parkway)
-TN: Some dude walking past my masked wife in a store: 'Damn brainwashed Democrat.'
-AL: Multiple groups of people who drove out to a national monument (masks required) without masks. I didn't see any incidents where folks got angry, but one nice old lady told me it 'never even crossed [her] mind that they'd require a mask. I haven't worn one in over a year.'
-GA: Dozens of signs decreeing that 'baby's heart beats 18 days after conception.' Baby doesn't have a heart and isn't a baby at that point. Probably a hundred more signs urging to choose life, like Jesus did.
-GA: 'Don't be a Democrat.' billboards, decrying the liberal mental affliction consuming America, pointing to americanaffliction.com.

Still to come: more FL, MS, AR. Should be a blast. We truly live in a shattered place.

On a recent drive to DC, I remember seeing a LOT of that kind of stuff (billboards, one MASSIVE rebel flag flying somewhere, and tons of pro-Trump stuff) going through Virginia. Don't remember what route I took, but to be fair, it was pretty rural (coming up from the south). I felt like I was on backroads the whole time.

[hepcat]

I don't disagree but the same thing was said about the impeachment hearings. In fact I probably said something similar about them. We have years of historical records of the destruction of our Democracy under this man and the GOP. That's meaningless if they get to rewrite history in a few years.

It’s for the next generation. This generation is fucked.

[LawBeefaroni]

I don't disagree but the same thing was said about the impeachment hearings. In fact I probably said something similar about them. We have years of historical records of the destruction of our Democracy under this man and the GOP. That's meaningless if they get to rewrite history in a few years.

It’s for the next generation. This generation is fucked.

The next generation will be post-democracy.. Jan 6 will be verboten under CRT laws.

[hepcat]

Then it’s for the generation that arises after the man in the high castle is done.

[Skinypupy]

-TN: A literal Trump store, opening soon, advertised to carry true patriot gear (on the Pigeon Forge parkway)

There’s LOTS of those in TN. We saw at least a half dozen driving from Nashville to Gatlinburg last month.

[LawBeefaroni]

-TN: A literal Trump store, opening soon, advertised to carry true patriot gear (on the Pigeon Forge parkway)

There’s LOTS of those in TN. We saw at least a half dozen driving from Nashville to Gatlinburg last month.

It's a good thing too. China is struggling and can use all the business they can get.

[Kraken]

The number of independents who think it was an insurrection and threat to democracy has gone up 9% since December.

https://www.npr.org/2022/07/21/11125464 ... poll-finds

That's key. If we can strip trump's support down to the hardcore MAGAts -- especially among the donor class -- then his threat is greatly diminished. His less dedicated followers are gradually drifting away, and he's not making any new recruits.

[LordMortis]

he's not making any new recruits.

There's one good thing to come of this for me. Seeing how the aging population falls into this trap of Fox News/OAN/NewsMax, etc... only and then can only repeat what they see there, I am on guard against becoming them and I think I will check out from Civic Duty if I feel that lens of seeing the world coming on. It's disheartening to be to see my elders having insurrection blinders completely up while only being able to focus on Biden as a malicious actor against corporate America... whom are also not to be trusted, as they support Biden or some such thing.

Of course, I see lots of young support as well, but they're stuck in different more... hostile... loop. One I don't have to be self aware to avoid.

[Defiant]

There is no way the carrier, the NSA (Dishfire anyone?), and a few other three letter and blank letter agencies don't have copies of the texts. They have no incentive to turn them over, however.

The Committee undoubtedly knows this.

Carriers don't keep the text messages themselves for very long (at most 90 days), although the metadata is kept around longer.

https://www.aclu.org/files/pdfs/freespe ... viders.pdf

[Grifman]

Meanwhile, coming back to the topic of the OP:

[malchior]

CNN

A video talking about impact of the 1/6 hears. The TLDW; of it is that Trump voters are worrying that he might be unelectable. They don't seem to care that he couped or crimed. They just worry about the base political effect. As always, the outlook for democracy in this nation is incredibly grim.

[gbasden]

I also want some of the 1/6 rioters to literally hang, so maybe I'm not the best judge here.

You aren't the only one. Not excluding those that plotted it.

[LordMortis]

I also want some of the 1/6 rioters to literally hang, so maybe I'm not the best judge here.

You aren't the only one. Not excluding those that plotted it.

[Smoove_B]

This is interesting. Does retiring remove legal protections?

ALERT: US Secret Service director James Murray delays retirement. Per my teammate @NicoleSganga
Agency is focus of multiple investigations

[Unagi]

Maybe he needs to be let go.

[malchior]

This is interesting. Does retiring remove legal protections?

My guess is Snap pulled their job offer.

[El Guapo]

Maybe he needs to be let go.

But how can he delete incriminating evidence if he's not there?

[Grifman]

A “nothing to see here” thread:



Lots of bogus stuff going on here.

[Alefroth]

Meadows really needs to be brought in for questioning.

[malchior]

This is one of those crazy things that was reported and was somewhat shrugged at as if it wasn't nuts that the WH COS is burning documents in his fireplace.

[Smoove_B]

Well, if Trump was trying to flush his documents in the toilet, it would track that Meadows needed to burn his.

[Smoove_B]

Alex Jones' texts have officially been turned over:

Approximately two years' worth of text messages sent and received by right-wing conspiracy theorist Alex Jones have been turned over to the House select committee investigating the January 6 insurrection, a person familiar with the matter told CNN on Monday.

The messages were handed over to the committee by Mark Bankston, the attorney who represented two Sandy Hook parents who successfully sued Jones in Texas and won nearly $50 million in a civil trial that concluded last week.

Bankston would only tell CNN that he is "cooperating with the committee." The select committee declined to comment.

[Zaxxon]

[Isgrimnur]

Hell, I want them released to the public.

[stessier]

He got 87 months - tied for the longest sentence handed down so far.

[Alefroth]

It must have included the devil's horns enhancement.

[stessier]

46 months for a 72-year old who brought a flag pole and was at the point of attack that pushed the police line to retreat.

[stessier]

55 months for a Proud Boy who agrees he broke the law even though he still thinks the election was stolen.