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Anus flavored? Sounds about right.
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In another wtf moment Johnson tells a very implausible story that he tried to pass off a letter about fake electors to Pence on 1/6 but doesn't know where it came from. His office was going to pass some mysterious package no questions asked to the VP of the US?! Ok....

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Lordy, I hope there are tapes.
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"I had no knowledge of this..."

The era of plausible deniability and "I do not recall" was a gateway to where we are now.
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I love how he says it is a non-story. Oh really. I mean it doesn't sound cockamamie at all. This guy is legitimately an idiot.

Confirmed idiot. Lol.

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LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:59 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:21 pm Have I missed where Pence had recently praised Trump or something?
Just yesterday in Chicago:
The Indiana Republican repeatedly praised the work of the “Trump-Pence” administration — just days after his former chief of staff and White House counsel testified before the House January 6 Committee that President Donald Trump had repeatedly pressured Pence to delay or reject the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, something Pence refused to do.

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Pence is also doing his best to separate himself from January 6, which is fresh in the minds of Americans after hours of testimony featured on television. In his speech, Pence called January 6 “a tragic day in our nation’s capital” and called the 2020 election “divisive.”

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On Monday, Pence did his best to shift the attention to what he sees as Trump’s strengths and Biden’s weaknesses, lamenting that the work done during the previous administration is being undone. Pence blamed the Democratic president for everything from a rise in gas and food prices, to low wages, a failing stock market, high rent and the baby formula shortage.

“That confidence and pride that were once synonymous with the American people in recent years has been replaced with fear and a national anxiety,” Pence said. “So let me say, to quote the old book, ‘Fear is useless.’ What is needed is leadership grounded in American values.”

He's running a longshot campaign and knows he will need Trump's support. It's insane but there we are.
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Smoove_B wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 10:21 pm Lordy, I hope there are tapes.
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Da hell does any of that have to do with licorice?

IDK if I like black licorice because I don't eat candy in general. Someone gave me some dark-chocolate covered espresso beans and they are as good as they sound, but I've had the little tub for at least a month now. Wife wanted to throw them out but I assured her that I'll finish them off, eventually.

I used to like Blackjack chewing gum. I think that was licorice. That and the clove flavor - Teaberry? - used to be my faves. I dimly remember enjoying the taste of those rubbery licorice sticks but not the texture. I'll have to do good and plenty of research one of these days.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:59 pm
Unagi wrote: Tue Jun 21, 2022 7:21 pm Have I missed where Pence had recently praised Trump or something?
Just yesterday in Chicago:
The Indiana Republican repeatedly praised the work of the “Trump-Pence” administration — just days after his former chief of staff and White House counsel testified before the House January 6 Committee that President Donald Trump had repeatedly pressured Pence to delay or reject the certification of President-elect Joe Biden’s victory, something Pence refused to do.

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Pence is also doing his best to separate himself from January 6, which is fresh in the minds of Americans after hours of testimony featured on television. In his speech, Pence called January 6 “a tragic day in our nation’s capital” and called the 2020 election “divisive.”

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On Monday, Pence did his best to shift the attention to what he sees as Trump’s strengths and Biden’s weaknesses, lamenting that the work done during the previous administration is being undone. Pence blamed the Democratic president for everything from a rise in gas and food prices, to low wages, a failing stock market, high rent and the baby formula shortage.

“That confidence and pride that were once synonymous with the American people in recent years has been replaced with fear and a national anxiety,” Pence said. “So let me say, to quote the old book, ‘Fear is useless.’ What is needed is leadership grounded in American values.”

He's running a longshot campaign and knows he will need Trump's support. It's insane but there we are.

I'm not sure about that. I think Pence is full blown Calvinist and Calvinists with power always think they are elect. He is trying to do what it right through his zealot lens. Pence is looking out for Pence' place in heaven. He's a believer. And believers seem to be convinced that democrats are somehow associated with Armageddon and Armageddon and Rapture are naturally coming in your lifetime when you are believer. I mean look at what is going on Ukraine if you need proof of end of times. Trump is not Pence' savior but the democrats are a tool of Satan.
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LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 am
I'm not sure about that. I think Pence is full blown Calvinist and Calvinists with power always think they are elect. He is trying to do what it right through his zealot lens. Pence is looking out for Pence' place in heaven. He's a believer. And believers seem to be convinced that democrats are somehow associated with Armageddon and Armageddon and Rapture are naturally coming in your lifetime when you are believer. I mean look at what is going on Ukraine if you need proof of end of times. Trump is not Pence' savior but the democrats are a tool of Satan.
If he honestly felt that way, why would he certify the election? Why risk your immortal soul to follow man's laws against God's and put the tools of Satan in power?
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:28 am
LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 am
I'm not sure about that. I think Pence is full blown Calvinist and Calvinists with power always think they are elect. He is trying to do what it right through his zealot lens. Pence is looking out for Pence' place in heaven. He's a believer. And believers seem to be convinced that democrats are somehow associated with Armageddon and Armageddon and Rapture are naturally coming in your lifetime when you are believer. I mean look at what is going on Ukraine if you need proof of end of times. Trump is not Pence' savior but the democrats are a tool of Satan.
If he honestly felt that way, why would he certify the election? Why risk your immortal soul to follow man's laws against God's and put the tools of Satan in power?
Because he knew it was legit. The laws of God may be higher than the laws of man but bearing false witness is still a sin.
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LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 1:21 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 9:28 am
LordMortis wrote: Wed Jun 22, 2022 8:04 am
I'm not sure about that. I think Pence is full blown Calvinist and Calvinists with power always think they are elect. He is trying to do what it right through his zealot lens. Pence is looking out for Pence' place in heaven. He's a believer. And believers seem to be convinced that democrats are somehow associated with Armageddon and Armageddon and Rapture are naturally coming in your lifetime when you are believer. I mean look at what is going on Ukraine if you need proof of end of times. Trump is not Pence' savior but the democrats are a tool of Satan.
If he honestly felt that way, why would he certify the election? Why risk your immortal soul to follow man's laws against God's and put the tools of Satan in power?
Because he knew it was legit. The laws of God may be higher than the laws of man but bearing false witness is still a sin.
My working theory is that Pence knew that the election was legit and was worried about legal consequences for him if he was involved in trying to overturn it.

Which is part of the problem if we don't have enough accountability for January 6th. People next time may well be more worried about Trump's wrath than any legal wrath for messing with the election.
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I'm still of the opinion that these hearings will result in absolutely ZERO convictions against anyone in real actual power. Sure, the R's might throw the committee some no name former poli who agreed to fall on his sword for the good of the fascist cause; but no one really close to Agolf will spend a minute in actual prison.

Oh and the fascists will totally take note of the fact that the consequence of this stuff is effectively zero and will now throw this kinda effort into every major election they lose.

We're playing a different kinda game now and the Democrats either have been bribed to, or in collusion with the other side to not acknowledge it. They will now forever be in the minority and forever be the party of "die a little slower"
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To be fair, this country has never really had the things you think it's lost.
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To be fair, this country has never had the collusion that Drazzil attributes to the Democrats. Things aren’t the way he wants them to be, so everyone must be conspiring rather than incompetent or frustrated.
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Isn't it kind of crazy that DOJ is suddenly interested in investigating things? The hearings weren't just for show. They applied real pressure.

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That's encouraging, but my hope that they'll find anything at this point is basically zero.
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"Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
Honestly, you would be surprised. The main asset that a lot of people in this brought to the table is more ruthlessness than brains.
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El Guapo wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:48 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
Honestly, you would be surprised. The main asset that a lot of people in this brought to the table is more ruthlessness than brains.
They let a documentary crew follow them around. These were not the best and brightest at criming.
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Whenever I heard that Madigan or one of his top aides got raided I'd shrug. But when it was some low level staffer, I paid attention.
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stessier wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:56 pm
El Guapo wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:48 pm
LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
Honestly, you would be surprised. The main asset that a lot of people in this brought to the table is more ruthlessness than brains.
They let a documentary crew follow them around. These were not the best and brightest at criming.
If they won it wouldn't matter.
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I think Trump has long ago been advised that criminal intent can be avoided if you play the fool that really thinks "crime" is totally not criminal. I think he has a pattern of hiding behind lawyers (or the legal shells they create for him) that will take the hit for him.

Too bad there isn't a shell company for the Presidency.
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LawBeefaroni wrote: Thu Jun 23, 2022 3:32 pm "Lemme just keep these incriminating documents at my home..."
Keep in mind, this is the guy that set himself apart from the rest of the group by:

agreeing to do some absurdly risky legal shit.
boldly disregarding all the advice that this was totally illegal.
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I know this forum has subtler subpoena-whisperers than I, but one thing I've heard is that DOJ doesn't openly raid your home and hard drives before they've long-since secured gagged subpoenas to look at your emails, texts, and phone records.
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Greitens Heel Team Six squad is on its way to kick down his door and terminate his RINO ass.
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These hearings may also very well be the thing that knocks Ron Johnson out of the senate. And giving Wisconsin a blue senator in his place.
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Defiant wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:07 am
I was tempted to vote for him back when. That was the last GOP person running I could say that about. He got crushed before it ever got to me. And yeah, I know he did some less than spectacular things in Ohio.
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Unless they officially and insistently leave the party, they're just playing for time.

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This... this is rather bonkers... (if true) Per Politico:
On Thursday, we noted that during a trip aboard Air Force One, a scheduled interview between Holder and Trump was abruptly canceled. Holder told us a bit more about that trip, and it turns out to be much more interesting than we knew.

Holder traveled with then-President Trump on Sunday, Oct. 25, three days after the second presidential debate and nine days before Election Day. That day, Trump flew from Washington to New Hampshire, then on to Maine, and then back to Washington. But WH COS MARK MEADOWS told Holder that something had come up and the planned interview was nixed.

“My memory is,” Holder told us, “that the chief of staff sort of came over and said that the interview couldn't happen today because the president was on the phone. And I believe, if I remember correctly, that he said that he was on the phone to the president of Russia, VLADIMIR PUTIN, which is why the interview had to be postponed.”...

...One explanation could be that Trump and Putin were reportedly trying to negotiate an arms control agreement, as Axios’ Dave Lawler and Alayna Treene reported on Oct. 11, 2020. And indeed, on Oct. 26, the Kremlin released a statement about its views on several security issues in Europe.

But one top Trump official involved in those talks told POLITICO that he had no recollection of a Trump-Putin call during that period.

However, there was some other news breaking that Sunday related to Putin that certainly would have caught Trump’s attention.

At the debate in Nashville days earlier, Trump had accused JOE BIDEN of receiving millions of dollars through some kind of corrupt scheme involving HUNTER BIDEN’s alleged business dealings in Ukraine and Moscow — accusations that were the cornerstone of Trump’s case against Biden in the final days of the 2020 campaign.

But that Sunday, Putin undercut Trump and said that as far as he knew, the allegations were nonsense. Sputnik, a Russian state-controlled media outlet, tweeted the news at 8:40 a.m. But it wasn’t until later in the day, when Trump was wrapping up a rally in New Hampshire, that the news broke through in the American press.
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Defiant wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:07 am
Not to shit all over your post, but I personally can't wait until we get past the wonderment stage. It's soooo late for shock at the audacity that it's almost comical.

I'm not even close to being some kind of political insider, much less an actual or previous politician with connections, so this reaction, to me, seems a bit..disengenuous at best? NOW you're shocked?? Just now?

I guess it's possible that some pols were really waiting to see what a hearing would bring up instead of coming to their own conclusions just based on what they saw and read, but...come on.
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Yeah, I'm over people acting shocked about modern US politics. "Oh, geeze - I can't believe it!"

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Kinzinger retweeted another tweet breaking the news that the sudden drop of a hearing tomorrow signifies urgency and that something significant and time sensitive will be presented tomorrow.
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Mo Brooks?

Jeff Clark?

Pat Cipollone?

Ginni Thomas? ;)

I have to think that at least one of these chucklefucks has to be viewing the underside of the bus they've been tossed beneath and thinking "Gosh, this kinda sucks. Maybe protecting Trump isn't really worth this."
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Carpet_pissr wrote: Sat Jun 25, 2022 4:01 pm
Defiant wrote: Fri Jun 24, 2022 9:07 am
Not to shit all over your post, but I personally can't wait until we get past the wonderment stage. It's soooo late for shock at the audacity that it's almost comical.

I'm not even close to being some kind of political insider, much less an actual or previous politician with connections, so this reaction, to me, seems a bit..disengenuous at best? NOW you're shocked?? Just now?

I guess it's possible that some pols were really waiting to see what a hearing would bring up instead of coming to their own conclusions just based on what they saw and read, but...come on.
I don't disagree in general, but Kasich has been one of the most consistent anti-Trump Republicans (among other things, spoke at the DNC in 2020). So it's not like he's all of the sudden like "wait, Trump is a bad person??".
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